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AMD 32-Core EPYC "Milan" Zen 3 CPU Fights Dual Xeon 28-Core Processors

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AMD is expected to announce its upcoming EPYC lineup of processors for server applications based on the new Zen 3 architecture. Codenamed "Milan", AMD is continuing the use of Italian cities as codenames for its processors. Being based on the new Zen 3 core, Milan is expected to bring big improvements over the existing EPYC "Rome" design. Bringing a refined 7 nm+ process, the new EPYC Milan CPUs are going to feature better frequencies, which are getting paired with high core counts. If you are wondering how Zen 3 would look like in server configuration, look no further because we have the upcoming AMD EPYC 7543 32-core processor benchmarked in Geekbench 4 benchmark.

The new EPYC 7543 CPU is a 32 core, 64 thread design with a base clock of 2.8 GHz, and a boost frequency of 3.7 GHz. The caches on this CPU are big, and there is a total of 2048 KB (32 times 32 KB for instruction cache and 32 times 32 KB for data cache) of L1 cache, 16 MB of L2 cache, and as much as 256 MB of L3. In the GB4 test, a single-core test produced 6065 points, while the multi-core run resulted in 111379 points. If you are wondering how that fairs against something like top-end Intel Xeon Platinum 8280 Cascade Lake 28-core CPU, the new EPYC Milan 7543 CPU is capable of fighting two of them at the same time. In a single-core test, the Intel Xeon configuration scores 5048 points, showing that the new Milan CPU has 20% higher single-core performance, while the multi-core score of the dual Xeon setup is 117171 points, which is 5% faster than AMD CPU. The reason for the higher multi-core score is the sheer number of cores that a dual-CPU configuration offers (32 cores vs 56 cores).

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Why in the world would someone get their hands on a brand new Zen 3 32-core CPU and the first thing that comes to mind is run Geekbench instead of Cinebench?
 
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Geekbench is a better benchmark, stresses a larger number of workloads, and cinebench is just rendering
 
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Intel is officially faqed !
Imagine two 64 zen 3 milan cpus on a motherboard what kind of score they pump, and compare that to intels best and latest xeons. In performance and price.
Intel better be ordering waggons of vaseline.
They will never recover from this and will go bankrupt. It suits them well, if you ask me. Thats what you get for being greedy beyond sense and measure. You end up ordering vaseline !
 
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the dual Xeon setup is 117171 points, which is 5% faster than AMD CPU. The reason for the higher multi-core score is the sheer number of cores that a dual-CPU configuration offers (32 cores vs 56 cores).
5% slower versus almost twice the core count is really amazing, but the real testbeating is power usage.
 
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I'm the last person to defend Intel, but why wasn't the same kernel used for testing both platforms? 4.2.2 is pretty old, like over 5 years old.
 
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Let's see, how to sum this up in one word (pic?) :laugh:
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Oh, and did I mention that Intel Xeon chips can scale above 2 sockets unlike their Epyc counterparts? lol.
They have to, to keep up. :peace:
 
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I'm the last person to defend Intel, but why wasn't the same kernel used for testing both platforms? 4.2.2 is pretty old, like over 5 years old.

I don't think they specifically tested it on old kernel, but that they found an old score that can be used for clicks.
 

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Intel is officially faqed !
Imagine two 64 zen 3 milan cpus on a motherboard what kind of score they pump, and compare that to intels best and latest xeons. In performance and price.
Intel better be ordering waggons of vaseline.
They will never recover from this and will go bankrupt. It suits them well, if you ask me. Thats what you get for being greedy beyond sense and measure. You end up ordering vaseline !

So AMD survived having practically nothing competitive for more than 5 years, not just on servers but on every form factor, but Intel somehow won't recover?

Also if Intel does disappear, who's going to keep AMD from becoming the new Intel, without competition?
 
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Oh, and did I mention that Intel Xeon chips can scale above 2 sockets unlike their Epyc counterparts? lol. Happy salty year AMD fanboys.

It would take 4x 28 core Xeons to keep up with, and still lose to, 2x 64 core Epycs...not to mention that the Xeon parts would probably be using at least 6x the power of the Eypc chips...not to mention it would take 4x Xeon's to offer the same PCIe I/O....I realize you thought you were painting Intel in a good light, but you really just highlighted their deficiencies.
 
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Oh, and did I mention that Intel Xeon chips can scale above 2 sockets unlike their Epyc counterparts? lol. Happy salty year AMD fanboys.
Oh yeah, scalable power consumption on that 14+++++++++++++++++ nm node! :roll:
 

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Oh, and did I mention that Intel Xeon chips can scale above 2 sockets unlike their Epyc counterparts? lol. Happy salty year AMD fanboys.
And the last gen AMD CPUs scale up to 64 cores and we may see higher with this gen. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), the enterprise space is about more than just performance. This means that having the fastest performing CPU or the higher CPU scaling isn't the final say when it comes to hardware choice...
 
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Oh, and did I mention that Intel Xeon chips can scale above 2 sockets unlike their Epyc counterparts? lol. Happy salty year AMD fanboys.

And the last gen AMD CPUs scale up to 64 cores and we may see higher with this gen. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), the enterprise space is about more than just performance. This means that having the fastest performing CPU or the higher CPU scaling isn't the final say when it comes to hardware choice...

Yeah, I wouldn't put a 128core Epyc out of the conversation here. It's likely to happen.

These Epyc processors are much more core dense than Intel, not to mention that AMD now has IPC and overall performance crowns with Zen 3 when compared to any Intel product.
 
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I wonder if this Patrick is Turmania's alt account.

Either way, pretty desperate and doesnt change reality soooo yeah, fail.
 
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Why in the world would someone get their hands on a brand new Zen 3 32-core CPU and the first thing that comes to mind is run Geekbench instead of Cinebench?

This seems to be the norm these days.

Rocket lake S also same thing just leaked Geekbench scores.

You will have to wait for an official launch to get some numbers from a broad range of applications.
 
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The AMD parts will be OUT of STOCK real quick as usual https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-p...nm-capacity-allocated-to-console-socs-report/ and Ice Lake-SP is just around the corner. Ice Lake-SP also comes with 2nd gen Optane support.
Remember how Zen2 (32-core) Threadripper/Epyc beat 28 core Xeons? Knowing how Zen3's ipc increased more than Ice Lake's ipc compared to their previous generation it's pretty safe to bet Zen3's stuff will beat them even more. Stock issues wil eventually get punched out due to Apple leaving the 7nm node.
 
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They will never recover from this and will go bankrupt. It suits them well, if you ask me. Thats what you get for being greedy beyond sense and measure. You end up ordering vaseline !

lol with the sky is falling post.

Do you know how much money intel has it would take years for them to go bankrupt, they do more than just processors. You don't get to be that big a company without diversifying your revenue stream.

Even with Zen 3 being as fast as it going to be Intel owns 90% of the server market.
 
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I wouldn't say years, or "lots" of years, for instance if they bungle up the 7nm & then 5nm transition as well they're in some serious effin trouble. Fabs at the leading edge costs more than what Intel's probably got in assets, excluding cash. TSMC on the other hand can mitigate this cost by selling to at least half a dozen chip behemoths ~ Intel cannot & that's why some of the investors don't want that potential disaster creeping in & sinking them like the (t)Itanic :nutkick:
 
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Man I would love to try one for monero mining
You are better offbaquiring ryo. Monero is flawed as it isnt private as has been thought. If you want what monero is suppose to be, get ryo. Follow at https://ryo-currency.com. chances are you allready own an asic for mining ryo in your possesion. People have named it gpu.

So AMD survived having practically nothing competitive for more than 5 years, not just on servers but on every form factor, but Intel somehow won't recover?

Also if Intel does disappear, who's going to keep AMD from becoming the new Intel, without competition?
There are lot of other cpus on the market arm, tachyum, etc. We dont need intel.
 
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So AMD survived having practically nothing competitive for more than 5 years, not just on servers but on every form factor, but Intel somehow won't recover?

Also if Intel does disappear, who's going to keep AMD from becoming the new Intel, without competition?

pretty sure we are all going arm anyway sooo yeah
 
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I wouldn't say years, or "lots" of years, for instance if they bungle up the 7nm & then 5nm transition as well they're in some serious effin trouble. Fabs at the leading edge costs more than what Intel's probably got in assets, excluding cash. TSMC on the other hand can mitigate this cost by selling to at least half a dozen chip behemoths ~ Intel cannot & that's why some of the investors don't want that potential disaster creeping in & sinking them like the (t)Itanic :nutkick:
Intel Total assess US$136.5 billion (2019)
Intel Net worth US$240 Billion (2020)
Average cost of a State of the art Fab 3-4 Billion

Intel is not going anywhere.
 
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