Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by bombfirst885, Dec 17, 2009.
yes some those results seem to contradict all of the reviews i've seen.
I normally dont care much for benches (real life matters a lot more to me) But I noticed in the test they used an old mobo and DDR2 memory and X8 on the PCI X slots. If I was using 5770s I dont think there would be a big difference (measurable but small) but using a 5870 there has to be a pretty good diff.
It seemed kind of silly using a top of the line AM3 CPU and an older AM2 mobo/memory and comparing that to Intels top of the line CPU/Mobo/mem combo, gee I wonder why the scores were a bit lopsided
Silly comparisons like that are why I insist on being more realistic when I choose hardware, leaving marketeers (and idiot reviewers) in charge really screws up good decision making.
Am I the only one that thinks an i5 or i7 is the better buy with todays prices? I'm talking TODAY. Not 6 months ago.
Mid-range? I wouldn't go THAT far.
Difference according to wizz's review is 1-2% across all resolution with pci-e 2.0 8x. As far as I know there isn't a dual x16 chipset out for AMD.
I will still agree though that the amount would make a bigger difference in this case, as the amd and core 2 rig only had 2 gigs each?
I use a Crosshair III and its X16 X 2
I stand corrected, suppose I haven't looked too much into it recently.
And DFI has the DK 790FXB-M3H5. It may not be a huge dif but its dif none the less. If they were interested in a more even test why not use a mid level GPU instead?
(I looked pretty hard before I gave up my X58 and went back to AMD)
Hardware comparisons can be like polls for politicians, someone that has an agenda can skew the poll/comparison either way he wants. Now add to that millions of diff combos of hardware and people/companies paid (or receiving free hardware) and its almost impossible to make fair/even comparisons.
And than others say the 965 is a mid range CPU? are you kidding me?
theres alot of boards that have dual x16 that run crossfire in x16 lol no matter if its crossfire or sli
but true remains that even x8 x8 boards do just fine u wont miss the 2-5fps u lose because if your running crossfire to begin with your frames are through the roof anyway
1- Nope (just a few)
2- its more than 2-5fps
3- yes once it goes over 100Fps its all good
Dude I'm willing to bet its less than 2-5 fps.
well for me in games where im getting 400fps it dosent really matter and i see more fps fluctuations depending on cpu and ram over PCIe slot config literally a 200mhz -400mhz bump on my cpu has more impact then x8 or x16 crossfire
the only setup that would need x16 + x16 is a quad crossfire setup with 2 5970s
otherwise x8 x8 is = to x16 x16 as most single gpu cards still dont tax the bandwidth of x16 pcie 1.1
I can honestly say having the i7 has made me happy. I started with an e6600 in the c2d era then q9550.. then i7 920. I've been super happy with this setup since I got the gigabyte board to replace the MSI. I also feel like I don't need a cpu for quite a while and now whatever money I want to spend on upgrades can be spent elsewhere. I'm the type of person that if something is lacking anywhere it must be improved. period. And with the i7 chip I have no urges to look around at other processors trying to find one that does what I want.
I may not be a pro video editor ("only buy i7 if you encode for a living") but I like to record fraps vids and camcorder vids of my daughter and I enjoy being able to endcode the video into another format for whatever my use might be.. and I don't have to wait forever for it to finish.
I also like the feeling of knowing I have more than enough juice for whenever I need it. I may not use it everyday but If I buy exspensive gear I want to be able to mess with it and run benches to kill the boredom while gaming doesnt seem entertaining. I love trying out newer hardware and nothing kicks my nuts harder than not being able to keep up with mid-level systems..
So i7 might be a little pricey but its money well spent for the time it will save you and the duration of it's ability to perform in todays world.
I'd have an extra $600 in my bank if I would have went i7 first instead of going up step by step.
I almost sold this rig but then I thought.. if I had anything less than an x58 + i7 rig.. I wouldnt even want it in my house.. whats the point. Not once have I ever sat here saying to myself "damn slow ass pc.. wtf??" ever!
You can jump on a i7 combo for under $400 nowadays. if it lasts 2 years thats only $16 a month
buy an average mans PC or buy an i7.. to me the choice is easy.
Such an ego.
Anyway I own a 955. I owned a 720 before that and a 9550 before that. I own stock in AMD and Ill tell you this. Go with the i5 or i7. The price is to close anymore to justify a 955 or 965. Six months ago I would have told you AMD all the way.
To add to that, why buy something that eats more power and runs hotter when you don't need it? I can buy what I want, and I got a PII because they are easy to use, run cool and don't use a lot of power. I buy based on my needs.
It's not about ego. It's about if someone is considering an i7.. get it. You will be happy you did and it's well worth it. If you don't sit around your pc more than a couple hours a day.. buy a budget rig. I enjoy my PC. It keeps me out of trouble and out of the bars. It's the source to my world, it's my hobby and it's what i enjoy coming home to while I'm enjoying my time as a single man. If I didn't have time to play around on a PC the majority of the time I would be happy with any old PC but the majority of us here spend alot of time at our desk and at this point in the game buying anything else would be dumb imo.
In 1-2 years when those sixcores are cheap you better believe I'll grab one and drop it into my x58 mobo in a heart beat. I might not be the guy that buys the big expsensive hardware on release day, but when the price is right it's an easy decision.
mailman said the smartest thing in the whole thread "Go with the i5 or i7. The price is to close anymore to justify a 955 or 965. Six months ago I would have told you AMD all the way."
stock i7 920 was the same as my 3.8ghz q9550.. and it runs same temp if not cooler.
Thats also true. Really there is no wrong answer when you are trying to pick between Anna Nicole Smith or Pamela Anderson.
old geezer leftovers or rock star sloppy seconds.. choice is yours.
hey mods, while youre on the hook, do you have 3dmark o6? If so have you pulled a score on that xfire setup yet?[/QUOTE]
LOL, it "IS" about " ego" and its not worth it unless you specialize in heavy video editing/encoding. The OP wanted it for gaming so its not worth it even more.
to each his own. people spend $200 on 60gb sdd hdd's.. think about it.
hey mods, while youre on the hook, do you have 3dmark o6? If so have you pulled a score on that xfire setup yet?
nope, comp is in pieces, Im on my Lego one now.
And remember what this post is about... not who pisses away the most $, but what is a better choice for a gaming comp.
he says he plans on using a single 5770 for the next three years.. so i take it hes not trying to max out BC2 and AVP and whatever else is to come. in that case he should just pick up the cheapest thing he can get that'll do 3 to 3.5 ghz on 2 cores.
Thats what I did, AMD 250 FTW! and its doing just fine with my 5770s
($200 for a Crosshair III and 250)
speaking of pissing away money.. i just ordered 2 more 23" dell s2309w 1080p monitors... i hope the 5770's can keep up with it.. if not.. 5870x2 here I come.
well im sure the op will be able to make a sound decision on what he needs to do. plenty of mixed opinions here so he should be able to figure out what is best for him.. sorry if I came off like a prick but I wasnt sure what type of user he was and was only trying to reccomend getting something that'll keep up through the next couple years.
LOL, now that you mention it I was thinking of another 24" (2 sounds cool) but the 5770s would struggle a bit
(now I wish I had got the 5850, but dont tell anyone)
5850 is inferior to 2x5770
all the testing Ive done Ive surpassed a 5870 most of the time if not all the time. it's probbaly your cpu
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