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AMD A10-6800K Cracks 8.00 GHz Mark

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#26
Richland is a refined Trinity APU and an indicator of what to expect from Kaveri and Steamroller desktop.

Stilt has some inside connections and the ability to sort thru a lot of hardware to find what works best. I doubt many Richland APUs will OC to 8 GHz. but it just shows that AMD is developing good products with a lot of potential.

The FX-9590 is another impressive processor with a 5.0 GHz. frequency without being overclocked.

Nice work AMD and Stilt.
 

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I just really dont see the point of this. It has absolutely zero real world impact. Dont even bother trying to sell the argument that it helps the developers and manufacturers create better chips in the future. It does NOT. Until there is a Heatsink/Fan or Watercooling Kit that can cool as well as LN2 *sarcasm*, these tests are nothing more than bragging rights and a waste of time.
It is the same point as working on a car and taking it to the drag strip over and over again to get it to go faster and faster. It is fun. When you finally crack the 11 second mark it only makes you want to crack the 10 second mark. A lot of people get enjoyment out of it and won't get to 10 seconds, a few do get to 10 seconds, and a few go faster than that. They enjoy it, and a few get lucky enough to make money from it. The same applies to extreme overclocking. It is a hobby. I bet there are things you do I could say are a waste of time.
 
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It is the same point as working on a car and taking it to the drag strip over and over again to get it to go faster and faster. It is fun. When you finally crack the 11 second mark it only makes you want to crack the 10 second mark. A lot of people get enjoyment out of it and won't get to 10 seconds, a few do get to 10 seconds, and a few go faster than that. They enjoy it, and a few get lucky enough to make money from it. The same applies to extreme overclocking. It is a hobby. I bet there are things you do I could say are a waste of time.
Just saying...
The car analogies only hold up if you only plan on using the car once...

A better analogy would be making an accurate 3D printed gun because its fun...you may only get 1 maybe 2 shots at a long distance target but its all the effort that makes it fun.
 

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Dont even bother trying to sell the argument that it helps the developers and manufacturers create better chips in the future. It does NOT.
I must disagree with you.

While most of the necessary data can and will be aqquired by testing and simulations made "in-house", there are still things which cannot either be accurately simulated or tested by using the conventional methods.

While the effects of sub-zero temperatures on semiconductors are well known and can be simulated very accurately (basic physics), there are many delicate variables which still require real world testing.

The wide variety of data aqquired by the different testing methods will help the chip engineers to understand the behavior of the part even more better. Sometimes the data aqquired by the "unconvetional" testing might reveal some pitfalls or limitations which can be easily fixed in the next chip revision. These fixes can and usually will improve the 'experience' of an average consumer too ;)

Still, I agree with you on one thing: "extreme overclocking" is nowdays mostly marketing.
In my case, the scale leans more towards to the side of development.

Every single piece of additional data is valuable and all of the manufacturers want to have it as much as they can.
In the CPU business, both of the major players: Intel and AMD.

Of course it is advisable not to believe everything that you read from the internet.

Stilt has some inside connections and the ability to sort thru a lot of hardware to find what works best. I doubt many Richland APUs will OC to 8 GHz. but it just shows that AMD is developing good products with a lot of potential.
I have tested three different A10-6800K specimens.
They are all from the same batch as the parts sent to the reviewers (1303SUS).
From what I have heard the retail parts which are newer production (1314 / 1318) generally seem to overclock even higher atleast on conventional cooling.

Two out of my three 6800K chips do 8GHz with both of the CUs enabled.
The other requires 1.925V and the other a bit under 2V.

The third chips does 7936MHz.

There is clearly evolution happening as with Trinity I had to go thru around 20 chips to find one that could breach the 7.9GHz mark.

Regards
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I must disagree with you.

While most of the necessary data can and will be aqquired by testing and simulations made "in-house", there are still things which cannot either be accurately simulated or tested by using the conventional methods.

While the effects of sub-zero temperatures on semiconductors are well known and can be simulated very accurately (basic physics), there are many delicate variables which still require real world testing.

The wide variety of data aqquired by the different testing methods will help the chip engineers to understand the behavior of the part even more better. Sometimes the data aqquired by the "unconvetional" testing might reveal some pitfalls or limitations which can be easily fixed in the next chip revision. These fixes can and usually will improve the 'experience' of an average consumer too ;)

Still, I agree with you on one thing: "extreme overclocking" is nowdays mostly marketing.
In my case, the scale leans more towards to the side of development.

Of course it is advisable not to believe everything that you read from the internet.



I have tested three different A10-6800K specimens.
They are all from the same batch as the parts sent to the reviewers (1303SUS).
From what I have heard the retail parts which are newer production (1314 / 1318) generally seem to overclock even higher atleast on conventional cooling.

Two out of my three 6800K chips do 8GHz with both of the CUs enabled.
The other requires 1.925V and the other a bit under 2V.

The third chips does 7936MHz.

There is clearly evolution happening as with Trinity I had to go thru around 20 chips to find one that could breach the 7.9GHz mark.

Regards
Roger

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I just really dont see the point of this. It has absolutely zero real world impact. Dont even bother trying to sell the argument that it helps the developers and manufacturers create better chips in the future. It does NOT. Until there is a Heatsink/Fan or Watercooling Kit that can cool as well as LN2 *sarcasm*, these tests are nothing more than bragging rights and a waste of time.
 

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I'm pretty certain that I am not.

Who is Sammy?
AMD renowned overclocker. I think he is from Finland. I was at one of AMD's Tech days in Austin. LOL Liquid Helium Overclock.









 
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AMD renowned overclocker. I think he is from Finland. I was at one of AMD's Tech days in Austin
Sami Makinen = Macci.:shadedshu
 
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If the new FXs are also from the same silicon/power management revision as the Richlands (the so called, "Vishera 2.0")... I think we can expect some records from those as well...

Who knows, maybe 9GHz+ on all 8 cores at last?
 

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Is that a custom bios allowing the 63x multi?
 
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Is that a custom bios allowing the 63x multi?
The A85X chipsets have a max supported multiplier of 63x. It isn't custom it is reference.
 

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Just saying...
The car analogies only hold up if you only plan on using the car once...

A better analogy would be making an accurate 3D printed gun because its fun...you may only get 1 maybe 2 shots at a long distance target but its all the effort that makes it fun.
Most people do plan to only use the car once, or rather a few times until something breaks and then they replace it and repeat. Pretty much what extreme overclockers do.
 

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Most people do plan to only use the car once, or rather a few times until something breaks and then they replace it and repeat. Pretty much what extreme overclockers do.
I don't see land speed record cars running more than a few times either, but they are essential for research.
 
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Wow! But why AMD? Where is Intel and 8GHz?
 
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I don't see land speed record cars running more than a few times either, but they are essential for research.
The "Big Boys" of LSR run Jet engines and have basically no active steering, how does that apply to std vehicles? Not a good analogy/comparisson.

They are only cars in the sense that they have 4 wheels and an engine :rockout:

Std PC users have a tonne more in common with top level OCers than your everyday Joe and his sport car does with a top LSR team
 
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This is phenomenal!! Well done AMD!!! :toast:

I was thinking about going with intel for this upgrade cycle but now I'll have another look at AMD's offerings. I only do Gaming and CAD on my PC anyways... :p
 

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The "Big Boys" of LSR run Jet engines and have basically no active steering, how does that apply to std vehicles? Not a good analogy/comparisson.

They are only cars in the sense that they have 4 wheels and an engine :rockout:

Std PC users have a tonne more in common with top level OCers than your everyday Joe and his sport car does with a top LSR team
Aerodynamics, materials, tuning, safety, etc. etc.
 

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I don't want the IGP so am going to get an Athlon x4 760K which is also Richland, basically the 6800K without IGP just to see what she can do. Probably spend too much on this Asus mainboard he used...... seems wrong though paying twice as much for a board than the CPU that goes in it!
 

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I don't want the IGP so am going to get an Athlon x4 760K which is also Richland, basically the 6800K without IGP just to see what she can do. Probably spend too much on this Asus mainboard he used...... seems wrong though paying twice as much for a board than the CPU that goes in it!
The ASUS F2A85-V Pro is only $140?
 

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The "Big Boys" of LSR run Jet engines and have basically no active steering, how does that apply to std vehicles? Not a good analogy/comparisson.

They are only cars in the sense that they have 4 wheels and an engine :rockout:

Std PC users have a tonne more in common with top level OCers than your everyday Joe and his sport car does with a top LSR team
LSR teams do have steering, just very minute, they have to control the vehicle somehow
 

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The ASUS F2A85-V Pro is only $140?
UK prices sadly...... £117 :cry: The CPU is £58 (just over half the price of the 6800K) which imo is a steal, unless i try my luck with a decently priced mid range board like the MSI GD65.