• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

AMD A10-7850 FlanK3r preview with Asus A88X PRO

Joined
May 18, 2009
Messages
395 (0.09/day)
Location
czech republic
System Name AMD forever, AMD overclocker
Processor Athlon 3000+ Venice, Athlon x2 4600+ EE Windsor,x4 955 BE@3.9GHz AIR, X4 965 BE, x4 970 BE, x6 1090T
Motherboard Asus C5F-Z, Asus C5F, Asus C4E, Asus C4F, Asus RIIIE, Asus R4E, Asus M5F, Asus M6F, Asus M7H,
Cooling Corsair H100, Swiftech H220, CM Hyper 212, Xigmatek 1283 DK+Ultra Kaze, CM V6GT, Noctua NHD14
Memory Kingston Hyper X, 1600 A-Data 2000x, Corsair Dominator GT 2000 MHz, GSkill TridentX 2400MHz, HyperX
Video Card(s) HD3870 512MB GDDR4, HD5770 1024MB GDDR5, ATI HD4870, HD 6870 GDDR5, HD 7870,Radeon R9-270X
Storage 2x 320GB WD+Samsung, 1x 500 GB Samsung, SSD X-25, SSD HyperX, SSD Seagate, SSD Corsair GT
Display(s) BenQ 24" 24XL
Case HAF 922, Aspire X-Cruiser, benchtable Wroom
Power Supply Seasonic 500W and Seasonic 650W, Corsair AX 1200W, Zalman Goldrock 750, Galaxy OC edition 1200W
Software x64 win 7 and x86 Win XP SP3
Benchmark Scores you rather I do not want to see .. :-D !!!Thuban coming soon, new secret Gigabyte mobo too !!!
We seen first APU Llano two and half years ago. This APU was AMD 12h family, very similar to 10h AMD family as all Phenoms II/Athlons II stars CPUs. Performance of Llano APUs was not bad, specially iGPU was great, but Phenoms II were better alternative. The FM1 socket had one year longevity.


After this AMD presents 15h family do desktop. New Bulldozer chips with good multithread performance, but not good single thread performance and high power comsumption. Zambezi BD was full of bugs, so AMD worked at new Piledriver cores and edhanced Zambezi in same time. At October 2012 coming new APU, to FM2 socket, AMD Trinity. This APU has similar performance as Llano, but with better iGPU part and with better power consumption with good overclocking ability. Next 10 months and to FM2 coming light refresh with better P-state and higher clocks - AMD Richland. I must to say, I liked A10 Richlands. Awesome OC, good scaling with voltage, still low power consumption after OC. These two 15h APUs are FM2 chips, but working also in FM2+.


Today is the D day from AMD, second generation of 15h APU is here, AMD Kaveri with Steamroller B. Chips are manufactured at 4Q 2013 and today are ready for sale and for reviews of

course :). Whats new here? Kaveri is AMD most advanced APU ever, with very good IPC (instruction per clock). We can talking about new GCN iGPU architecture inside, about new 28nm SHP process, HUMA controller, HSA support, AMD Trueadio, PCIe 3.0 and configurable TDP.


APU die size is 245mm, almost the same as in Richland/Trinity. But there is 2.41 bilion tranzisotrs! This is almost double more than before! This is because SHP process, higher

density at die size. SHP is "mixed" bulk and SOI. So good for iGPU, good for CPU tranzistors, but worse for the highest clock. Thats why Kaveri clocks are -400 MHz lower than with Richland.



Configurable TDP is one interesting part for notebooks segment. But working very well in desktop (we can know it from Haswell). There is slide from 65W and 45W part and performance in 3D Mark Firestrike with iGPU. Richland 65w is A8-6500, 45W is A8-6700T. The drop in score is around 250 points. But what Kaveri? Kaveri 65W is A8-7600. We can change TDP of CPU in BIOS for 45W at the same model. And performance? Wow, only few points lower than before!


Diagram of Steamroller B Kaveri. CPU cores with shared L2, IO part, iGPU part with up to 8 units and HUMA controller at left.


New chipset A88X is almost the same as A85X for FM2. One difference is PCIe 3.0, if we using Kaveri chip, and AHCI update. I have only A85x screenshot for representation...A78 and A55 are next chipsets of FM2+.



Kaveri including up to 12 compute cores. Why? There is (in 7850K) 4 CPU cores and 8 GPU compute cores of GCN. So programmable for parallel compute. Simply pure CPU performance clock to clock is up to 20% better than Piledriver core! Wow. How about improving seems AMD! But of course, the clocks of Kaveri are -400 MHz lower and after all is Kaveri slighty better than Richland A10-6800K (around 5% average at CPU part).
GPU part is very good. The gain is similar as from Llano to Trinity. But there is GCN, DX11.2+Mantle and new TrueAudio. The top R7 iGPU has 8 gpu units with 512 stream processors, 32 texture units and 16 ROPs.


The main stone of Kaveri is again one module. This module has two cores with shared L2 cache 2MB, few pipelines and some specialized units (128 FMAC and MMX). L1D cache is now higher - 96KB and 3-way. Dont forget about Kaveri isntruction set - FMA4/3, AVX, AES, XOP.



iGPU part is 47% of all die size. Again GCN concept as Hawai example working with DDR3 2133 MHz native (but it working with 2666 MHz OK at kaveri). iGPU part support Mantle, DX11.2, AMD Trueaudio, Eyfinity or acceleration UVD and working VCE. GPU part and CPU part can working together for compute - heterogeneous. So GPU and CPU have equal flexibility to create work. HSA compute are writing in opencl or C++ or few next language. This languages named as HSAL. HSAL is supporting now by few programs, example Photoshop, Libre
Office, Gimp etc. HSA are there great for saved time here. There is few examples of HSA.









Now we are back to pure iGPU performance in gaming. Finally some modern games at FullHD without lagging!



Or popular LOL game


Kaveri seems strong with dedicated card too, Im sure, better than Piledriver.


iGPU features as Mantle and TrueAudio are next benifits.
Whats Mantle exactly? Its new alternative to DX. But with benefits from GCN architecture for higher FPS (up to 40% boost!). Simply we can play games with worse cards than before. Next good idea is, you dont need Windows 8 for latest gaming effects! This will be working in theory with Windows XP too! At least with Windows 7 at 100%.AMD Trueaudio is less stress for CPU and better sound quality in games. Sound was limit of modern games. Now not must be. In iGPU parts are few audio coprocessors. And again programeable :).




Today AMD launched 3 models of Kaveri. The top model A10-7850K, the A10-7700K and great TDP model A8-7600. All specs are in tab. So :
*CPU contains a new core Steamroller B on 28nm SHP process with clocks to 3.7 / 4 GHz
*CPU cores are now more than 4, support the new ISA instructions, FMA4 / 3, AVX, AES, XOP
*shared L2 cache has a capacity of 2MB for one module (dual-core)
*the processor has a integrated PCIe 3.0 controller
*GPU part of the GCN architecture, core up to 720 MHz and up to 512 stream processors
*rendering effects up to 8x AF AA/16x
*Support Displayport 1.2, AMD Eyefinity, support for 4K video, support for UVD and VCE
*CPU and GPU together and communicate with each other, native support for DDR3 memory is 2400 MHz with AMP profile
*TDP APU is configurable in the range of 45, 65 and 95 W
*Support A88X chipset, A78 and A55, belonging socket FM2 +
*support the calculation of HSA, AMD TrueAudio a so-called API (DirectX 11.2/Mantle)
*support the involvement of dual graphics accelerators

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/flanker/Kaveri/balen%C3%AD.jpg[img]

[img]http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/flanker/Kaveri/TDP_bios.png
TDP for change please?:)


Now going to test system :). I used AMD Gamer memory 2133 MHz, Asus A88X PRO with the last BIOS, big Corsair AX 1200 PSU, SSD Kingston HyperX 120GB and A10-7850K CPU. For comparison few others - A10-6800K, A8-3870K, FX-4300+FX-6300 and mostrum Haswell i7-4770K :) ( I have not core i3).




The gold, the new, the A88X PRO.


something is inside....:)

So, ready for preview tests? I am :)

Superpi is old benchamrk, this is pure x87 without help instruciton set. This programs are dead todays, but it is good for comparison simillar architecture.


*kaveri is impressive here. With the lower clocks beat all AMD CPUs.

AIDA memory tests




*In AIDA is little improvement with Kaveri, specially in read

Cinebench R11.5


*With -400 Mhz clocks slightly win for Kaveri, not bad again.

Fritzchess benchmark - multithread with hard load of chess simulation


*almost +400 points for Kaveri with lower frequency is very nice, specially here.

Wprime 1024M


*wow, simply wow....There is crazy performance gain, more than 100s quicker and this 2CU/4C APU won with FX-6300!

x264FHD benchmark, 1080P


* more than 0.5 FPS in 1080P is not nothing, this benchmark is very hard for every FPS up in CPU encoding

3D Mark vantage Performance test


* Kaveri can fly here. Huge improvement.

3D Mark 11 Performance


*After this score, I cant believe. Over 2400 points at stock. This score had my Richland after CPU/iGPU and memory OC (46xx Mhz CPU, 11xxMHz iGPU and over 2500 MHz memory!) !

3D Mark Fire Strike


*there is more than 100 points, not bad, but I think with new drivers could be better

Aliens vs Predator DX11 1920x1080, high details, 0x AA, 16x AF.


*its is hardly playable, but without comfort. For 30FPS I must set 0x AF and low/medium details without teselation ON.

Far Cry 2, DX10 1920x1080, very high details, high physic, 0x AA


* +4 FPS at FHD is not really bad. Believe, at 1280x1024 will be higher FPS gain!

For review I had not much time. So only this preview. I believe, you will like review and in future bring some more tests, OC and more photos of board for you. And you know what?

Do you heard about Asus 4-way optimization? If not, its simply way for auto OC with set of power state/idle mode, save some energy and VRM controll, intelligent regulation of fans without noise. Look at this nice auto overl:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing!


Michal "FlanK3r"
 
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
12,062 (3.83/day)
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
Can always rely on you man ;)
Nice graphs and stuff, but everybody knows most man-shoot games don't give a rats ass about CPU performance, and rarely makes any difference. All that stuff is done on the GPU. The onboard GPU seems capable though, 32FPS on BF4 seems impressive, perhaps a little too unbelievable if you ask me.
 
Joined
Dec 1, 2013
Messages
30 (0.01/day)
System Name gaming rig
Processor AMD ryzen 7 2700x
Motherboard gigabyte b450 aorus pro
Cooling AMD wraith prism
Memory 16gb ram
Video Card(s) MSI rx580 gaming X
Storage 2TB HDDs + samsung 850 evo 128gb SSD
Display(s) ASUS 24'' FHD
Case Cooler master H500p
Audio Device(s) on-board
Power Supply corsair RM1000i
Mouse cooler master mastermouse 5 rgb
Keyboard cooler master devastator 3
Software windows 10 x64 pro v2004
thank you sir and good job 2400points in 3dmark 11 for igpu its awsome i wonder what score its gets with r7 card
 
Joined
Mar 29, 2012
Messages
413 (0.13/day)
Location
brčko dc/bosnia and herzegovina
System Name windows 10 pro 64bit
Processor i5 6600k 4.4ghz 1.25v
Motherboard asus maximus viii gene
Cooling BeQuiet Dark Rock pro
Memory 2x8(16)GB 2860mhz
Video Card(s) gtx 1070 EVGA
Storage ssd x2 128gb raid0/ ssd480gb
Display(s) AOC 1440p 75hz
Case Aerocool DS Cube
Audio Device(s) asus motherboard intergrated
Power Supply be Quiet pure power L8 600w
Mouse Corsair Ironclaw wireles
Keyboard Logitec G213
Software my favorite World of Tanks :) is that a software?? :)
yeah maybe my pc in next month or two!! i wana see how it perform with dual graphic...
but it is kinda litle pricey at the start!!but then again BF4 is worth at least 40 bucks...
 
Joined
Apr 5, 2005
Messages
6,684 (1.17/day)
Location
Republic of Asia (a.k.a Irvine), CA
System Name ---
Processor FX 8350 @ 4.00 Ghz with 1.28v
Motherboard Gigabyte 990FX-UD3 v4.0, Hacked Bios F4.x
Cooling Silenx 4 pipe Tower cooler + 2 x Cougar 120mm fan, 3 x 120mm, 1 x 200 mm Red LED fan
Memory Kingston HyperX DDR3 1866 16GB + Patriot Memory DDR3 1866 16GB
Video Card(s) Asus R9 290 OC @ GPU - 1050, MEM - 1300
Storage Inland 256GB PCIe NVMe SSD for OS, WDC Black - 2TB + 1TB Storage, Inland 480GB SSD - Games
Display(s) 3 x 1080P LCDs - Acer 25" + Acer 23" + HP 23"
Case AeroCool XPredator X3
Audio Device(s) Built-in Realtek
Power Supply Corsair HX1000 Modular
Software Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Nice Preview.
 
Joined
Nov 22, 2012
Messages
693 (0.24/day)
System Name Old but gold
Processor 3770k @ 4.5Ghz
Motherboard Asus Maximus Gene V
Cooling Hyper 212 Evo
Memory 16Gb 1600 DDR3@2400 Cl11
Video Card(s) GTX 1080 FE
Storage SanDisk Extreme 120Gb SSD (os) , SanDisk 480Gb (Games), WD Caviar Black 4 TB (Games and storage)
Display(s) 32" Samsung HDTV 1080P
Case Some old Dell
Audio Device(s) Onboard HDMI
Power Supply EVGA G2 550w
Software Windows 10 Pro 1903
So a kaveri chip with a dedicated card is faster than a 4670k with the same card? Really?
 
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Messages
10,666 (1.94/day)
System Name MoFo 2
Processor AMD PhenomII 1100T @ 4.2Ghz
Motherboard Asus Crosshair IV
Cooling Swiftec 655 pump, Apogee GT,, MCR360mm Rad, 1/2 loop.
Memory 8GB DDR3-2133 @ 1900 8.9.9.24 1T
Video Card(s) HD7970 1250/1750
Storage Agility 3 SSD 6TB RAID 0 on RAID Card
Display(s) 46" 1080P Toshiba LCD
Case Rosewill R6A34-BK modded (thanks to MKmods)
Audio Device(s) ATI HDMI
Power Supply 750W PC Power & Cooling modded (thanks to MKmods)
Software A lot.
Benchmark Scores Its fast. Enough.
Can you run a memory latency test for it?
 
Joined
May 18, 2009
Messages
395 (0.09/day)
Location
czech republic
System Name AMD forever, AMD overclocker
Processor Athlon 3000+ Venice, Athlon x2 4600+ EE Windsor,x4 955 BE@3.9GHz AIR, X4 965 BE, x4 970 BE, x6 1090T
Motherboard Asus C5F-Z, Asus C5F, Asus C4E, Asus C4F, Asus RIIIE, Asus R4E, Asus M5F, Asus M6F, Asus M7H,
Cooling Corsair H100, Swiftech H220, CM Hyper 212, Xigmatek 1283 DK+Ultra Kaze, CM V6GT, Noctua NHD14
Memory Kingston Hyper X, 1600 A-Data 2000x, Corsair Dominator GT 2000 MHz, GSkill TridentX 2400MHz, HyperX
Video Card(s) HD3870 512MB GDDR4, HD5770 1024MB GDDR5, ATI HD4870, HD 6870 GDDR5, HD 7870,Radeon R9-270X
Storage 2x 320GB WD+Samsung, 1x 500 GB Samsung, SSD X-25, SSD HyperX, SSD Seagate, SSD Corsair GT
Display(s) BenQ 24" 24XL
Case HAF 922, Aspire X-Cruiser, benchtable Wroom
Power Supply Seasonic 500W and Seasonic 650W, Corsair AX 1200W, Zalman Goldrock 750, Galaxy OC edition 1200W
Software x64 win 7 and x86 Win XP SP3
Benchmark Scores you rather I do not want to see .. :-D !!!Thuban coming soon, new secret Gigabyte mobo too !!!
The CPU going back to distributor :(. Im trying now few OC test, max stable is 4544 MHz with 1.45V, I could get 4600 MHz, but I need 1.55V :)
 
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
4,335 (1.27/day)
Location
Mexico
System Name STEAMBOX | GAMECUBE | EQC (Everyday Quad Core)
Processor i5 4590@3.7Ghz |i7 3770K@4Ghz -|- Athlon 5350@2.52Ghz
Motherboard GA-B85N PHOENIX | Asrock Z77E-ITX | Asus AM1I-A
Cooling Stock | Antec Kuhler 620 | Reeven Vanxie
Memory 2x4GB ADATA XPG 1600Mhz | 2x4GB Kingston 1866Mhz -|- 2x4GB Crucial Ballistix@1920Mhz
Video Card(s) RX 480 Nitro | Sapphire RX 480 w/Accelero Mono Plus | HD 8400 @ 720Mhz (IGP)
Storage LiteON 128GB mSATA+3TB Seagate | Seagate 1TBxSamung 64GB SSD (Intel RST) | Kingston v300 240GB
Display(s) Daewoo 49" 1080p | ASUS PA248Q 1920x1200 IPS
Case Corsair 250D | CoolerMaster Elite 110 | Acteck Fiji
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Seasonic SS-660XP2 | Silverstone SFX-450 | 200w mini FLEX PSU
Software Windows 10 64bit
So a kaveri chip with a dedicated card is faster than a 4670k with the same card? Really?
I suppose he's running into a GPU bottleneck, otherwise the graph doesn't make a lot of sense. Not to crap on Kaveri but a powerhouse it isn't.
 
Joined
Mar 29, 2012
Messages
413 (0.13/day)
Location
brčko dc/bosnia and herzegovina
System Name windows 10 pro 64bit
Processor i5 6600k 4.4ghz 1.25v
Motherboard asus maximus viii gene
Cooling BeQuiet Dark Rock pro
Memory 2x8(16)GB 2860mhz
Video Card(s) gtx 1070 EVGA
Storage ssd x2 128gb raid0/ ssd480gb
Display(s) AOC 1440p 75hz
Case Aerocool DS Cube
Audio Device(s) asus motherboard intergrated
Power Supply be Quiet pure power L8 600w
Mouse Corsair Ironclaw wireles
Keyboard Logitec G213
Software my favorite World of Tanks :) is that a software?? :)
can someone tel me how much beter cpu cores on this chip are against my old phenom ll 810!!i dont need it to be compared to intel cpu becouse i just wana nwo how much beter it is then my cpu..
curent cpu i use non OC(becouse shity MB),and hd 4890 1gb,and i play most of games max detail,high in some and on freakin non optimized world of tanks at medium setings!!
so i was wondering if i use this apu and make dual gpu with some r7 card how much performance would i gain!! i know it is hard to just put it out,but that info i need,thnx in advance
 

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
16,599 (3.08/day)
Location
Piteå
System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 2600x
Motherboard Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling AMD Wraith Spire I think
Memory 2 x 8GB G-skill Aegis 3000 or somesuch
Video Card(s) Powercolor Radeon HD 7850 2GB
Storage Kingston A400 240GB | WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB
Display(s) BenQ GL2450HT
Case Antec dumpster find
Audio Device(s) Line6 UX1 + slightly repaired Sony DR-ZX302
Power Supply Fractal Design Effekt 400W
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Dell Sk3205
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores I once had +100 dorfs in DF, so yeah pretty great
can someone tel me how much beter cpu cores on this chip are against my old phenom ll 810!!i dont need it to be compared to intel cpu becouse i just wana nwo how much beter it is then my cpu..
curent cpu i use non OC(becouse shity MB),and hd 4890 1gb,and i play most of games max detail,high in some and on freakin non optimized world of tanks at medium setings!!
so i was wondering if i use this apu and make dual gpu with some r7 card how much performance would i gain!! i know it is hard to just put it out,but that info i need,thnx in advance
The CrossfireX thing has been pretty uneven in the past. Some games actually got slower with it enabled. I'd wait for reviews for that.
 
Joined
May 18, 2009
Messages
395 (0.09/day)
Location
czech republic
System Name AMD forever, AMD overclocker
Processor Athlon 3000+ Venice, Athlon x2 4600+ EE Windsor,x4 955 BE@3.9GHz AIR, X4 965 BE, x4 970 BE, x6 1090T
Motherboard Asus C5F-Z, Asus C5F, Asus C4E, Asus C4F, Asus RIIIE, Asus R4E, Asus M5F, Asus M6F, Asus M7H,
Cooling Corsair H100, Swiftech H220, CM Hyper 212, Xigmatek 1283 DK+Ultra Kaze, CM V6GT, Noctua NHD14
Memory Kingston Hyper X, 1600 A-Data 2000x, Corsair Dominator GT 2000 MHz, GSkill TridentX 2400MHz, HyperX
Video Card(s) HD3870 512MB GDDR4, HD5770 1024MB GDDR5, ATI HD4870, HD 6870 GDDR5, HD 7870,Radeon R9-270X
Storage 2x 320GB WD+Samsung, 1x 500 GB Samsung, SSD X-25, SSD HyperX, SSD Seagate, SSD Corsair GT
Display(s) BenQ 24" 24XL
Case HAF 922, Aspire X-Cruiser, benchtable Wroom
Power Supply Seasonic 500W and Seasonic 650W, Corsair AX 1200W, Zalman Goldrock 750, Galaxy OC edition 1200W
Software x64 win 7 and x86 Win XP SP3
Benchmark Scores you rather I do not want to see .. :-D !!!Thuban coming soon, new secret Gigabyte mobo too !!!
Phenom II 810 is without L3 cache, this CPUs are slower than Athlons with Piledriver cores. The Steamroller core is clock to clock around 10% better than Piledriver core.
 
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
248 (0.09/day)
Location
Nehr'esham
System Name Neverending Story
Processor 9900K / 4790K / 4670K / G3258 / 3770K / 8750 / 6800K / 5800K / 3870K / QX6700 / 6500K / 5750M
Motherboard M11G / Z97X-SOCF / Z77X-UP5 / Z77CROWN-U1D / F2A88X-UP4 / A75-UD4H / IX48-GT3 / BlackOps / FS1r2A75
Cooling HR-22 / Silver Arrow IB-E / Archon SB-E / Mega Shadow / TRUE-Black
Memory Corsair Dominator GT / GTX / Platinum, G.SKILL Flare / Perfect Storm / Pi / Trident (X/Z), OCZ Blade
Case Lancool / Silverstone / Thermaltake / Cubitek
Audio Device(s) -
Power Supply 80plus Platinum
Software -
Benchmark Scores -
@FlanK3r: Thanks for your work! Did you bother testing for max BCLK and MCLK?
 
Joined
May 18, 2009
Messages
395 (0.09/day)
Location
czech republic
System Name AMD forever, AMD overclocker
Processor Athlon 3000+ Venice, Athlon x2 4600+ EE Windsor,x4 955 BE@3.9GHz AIR, X4 965 BE, x4 970 BE, x6 1090T
Motherboard Asus C5F-Z, Asus C5F, Asus C4E, Asus C4F, Asus RIIIE, Asus R4E, Asus M5F, Asus M6F, Asus M7H,
Cooling Corsair H100, Swiftech H220, CM Hyper 212, Xigmatek 1283 DK+Ultra Kaze, CM V6GT, Noctua NHD14
Memory Kingston Hyper X, 1600 A-Data 2000x, Corsair Dominator GT 2000 MHz, GSkill TridentX 2400MHz, HyperX
Video Card(s) HD3870 512MB GDDR4, HD5770 1024MB GDDR5, ATI HD4870, HD 6870 GDDR5, HD 7870,Radeon R9-270X
Storage 2x 320GB WD+Samsung, 1x 500 GB Samsung, SSD X-25, SSD HyperX, SSD Seagate, SSD Corsair GT
Display(s) BenQ 24" 24XL
Case HAF 922, Aspire X-Cruiser, benchtable Wroom
Power Supply Seasonic 500W and Seasonic 650W, Corsair AX 1200W, Zalman Goldrock 750, Galaxy OC edition 1200W
Software x64 win 7 and x86 Win XP SP3
Benchmark Scores you rather I do not want to see .. :-D !!!Thuban coming soon, new secret Gigabyte mobo too !!!
I would like with my chip (so later), but with AHCI is lock around 105 MHz :(. Next time I must install IDE only.
 
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
248 (0.09/day)
Location
Nehr'esham
System Name Neverending Story
Processor 9900K / 4790K / 4670K / G3258 / 3770K / 8750 / 6800K / 5800K / 3870K / QX6700 / 6500K / 5750M
Motherboard M11G / Z97X-SOCF / Z77X-UP5 / Z77CROWN-U1D / F2A88X-UP4 / A75-UD4H / IX48-GT3 / BlackOps / FS1r2A75
Cooling HR-22 / Silver Arrow IB-E / Archon SB-E / Mega Shadow / TRUE-Black
Memory Corsair Dominator GT / GTX / Platinum, G.SKILL Flare / Perfect Storm / Pi / Trident (X/Z), OCZ Blade
Case Lancool / Silverstone / Thermaltake / Cubitek
Audio Device(s) -
Power Supply 80plus Platinum
Software -
Benchmark Scores -
Yeah, AHCI and VGA did crap out around that with Trinity/Richland as well. But with Legacy-mode and DVI-out a BCLK of 170+ shouldn't be a problem^^
 
Joined
May 15, 2007
Messages
765 (0.15/day)
System Name ZPM Hive Mini | Aurora | Biliskner|
Processor R9 3950X PBO | R5 3600X | X5650 @ 4.4Ghz | Q6600 |
Motherboard Asus X570I Strix | GB Aorus B450I | Rampage II x58 / Asrock Dual VSATA |
Cooling NZXT 140mm AIO | CM 120 AIO | 280mm AIO / Multi |
Memory 16GB T-Group DDR4 3200 C16 | 16GB Corsair RGB 3200 C16 | 24GB Vengeance DDR3 / 2GB DDR2 |
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC | MSI RX 5700 Mech OC | TITAN | X850XTPE / 6800 Ultra |
Storage 2x 512GB NVME SSD / 1TB SP SSD | Intel 760p NVME SSD / 512GB SP SSD | 256GB SP SSD |
Display(s) Dell 1440p 144Hz G-Sync | AW 1080p IPS 240hz Freesync | AOC 25" 1080p 75hz |
Case NZXT H1 | Metallic gear Neo-G Mini | Carbide 275R | BC1 Test Bench |
Audio Device(s) Onboard w/ Edifier 980T | Onboard | SB XiFi |
Power Supply NZXT 650w Gold SFX | EVGA GQ 750w | EVGA GQ 750w | Corsair HX1000i |
Mouse Corsair Harpoon RGB | Coolermaster RGB |
Keyboard Vengeance K70 w/ Cherry Red | Coolermaster Memchanical RGB |
Software Win 10 x64 | Win 10 x64 | Win XP SP3 / Win 7 x64 |
Nice review!.

The 7850k (and 7700K) look decent enough but the UK pricing is letting them down.

For around £30 more than the 7850K I bought my wife a 760K + HD7850 combo. In terms of raw gaming performance it was well worth the extra. Normal every day peformance will be basically identical (760K being a 6800K minus the iGPU)
 
Joined
May 18, 2009
Messages
395 (0.09/day)
Location
czech republic
System Name AMD forever, AMD overclocker
Processor Athlon 3000+ Venice, Athlon x2 4600+ EE Windsor,x4 955 BE@3.9GHz AIR, X4 965 BE, x4 970 BE, x6 1090T
Motherboard Asus C5F-Z, Asus C5F, Asus C4E, Asus C4F, Asus RIIIE, Asus R4E, Asus M5F, Asus M6F, Asus M7H,
Cooling Corsair H100, Swiftech H220, CM Hyper 212, Xigmatek 1283 DK+Ultra Kaze, CM V6GT, Noctua NHD14
Memory Kingston Hyper X, 1600 A-Data 2000x, Corsair Dominator GT 2000 MHz, GSkill TridentX 2400MHz, HyperX
Video Card(s) HD3870 512MB GDDR4, HD5770 1024MB GDDR5, ATI HD4870, HD 6870 GDDR5, HD 7870,Radeon R9-270X
Storage 2x 320GB WD+Samsung, 1x 500 GB Samsung, SSD X-25, SSD HyperX, SSD Seagate, SSD Corsair GT
Display(s) BenQ 24" 24XL
Case HAF 922, Aspire X-Cruiser, benchtable Wroom
Power Supply Seasonic 500W and Seasonic 650W, Corsair AX 1200W, Zalman Goldrock 750, Galaxy OC edition 1200W
Software x64 win 7 and x86 Win XP SP3
Benchmark Scores you rather I do not want to see .. :-D !!!Thuban coming soon, new secret Gigabyte mobo too !!!
First OC results, more tomorow

1.455V for CPU, 1.3V for iGPU = 4544 MHz and 104x MHz iGPU, 30min stress test


Cinebenchr R11.5


3D Mark11, seems limitation of APUNB and memory. I think, this clocks of iGPU needs more juice from memory. 2666 MHz at least.
 
Joined
May 18, 2009
Messages
395 (0.09/day)
Location
czech republic
System Name AMD forever, AMD overclocker
Processor Athlon 3000+ Venice, Athlon x2 4600+ EE Windsor,x4 955 BE@3.9GHz AIR, X4 965 BE, x4 970 BE, x6 1090T
Motherboard Asus C5F-Z, Asus C5F, Asus C4E, Asus C4F, Asus RIIIE, Asus R4E, Asus M5F, Asus M6F, Asus M7H,
Cooling Corsair H100, Swiftech H220, CM Hyper 212, Xigmatek 1283 DK+Ultra Kaze, CM V6GT, Noctua NHD14
Memory Kingston Hyper X, 1600 A-Data 2000x, Corsair Dominator GT 2000 MHz, GSkill TridentX 2400MHz, HyperX
Video Card(s) HD3870 512MB GDDR4, HD5770 1024MB GDDR5, ATI HD4870, HD 6870 GDDR5, HD 7870,Radeon R9-270X
Storage 2x 320GB WD+Samsung, 1x 500 GB Samsung, SSD X-25, SSD HyperX, SSD Seagate, SSD Corsair GT
Display(s) BenQ 24" 24XL
Case HAF 922, Aspire X-Cruiser, benchtable Wroom
Power Supply Seasonic 500W and Seasonic 650W, Corsair AX 1200W, Zalman Goldrock 750, Galaxy OC edition 1200W
Software x64 win 7 and x86 Win XP SP3
Benchmark Scores you rather I do not want to see .. :-D !!!Thuban coming soon, new secret Gigabyte mobo too !!!
So gonna for some OC test...and few interestings. This is not full version of review, but most of them is here now. SOme clock to clock comparison, win7 vs win8.1, more OC and HSA tests will be in official review next month.

First we talking about autooc. Asus give me 4200 MHz and 960 MHz at iGPU part. This is not bad. Nice things for beginners and people scared from BIOS settings :).

3D Mark11


AIDA GPU test


wprime 1.55




Max stable OC for CPU and iGPU
In AMD Overdrive stability test I got 4544 MHz and 104x MHz at iGPU part R7. For CPU I needed decent 1.455 V in BIOS and 1.315 V for APUNB (iGPU). Im sue, 4600 MHz is possible, but with very high voltage. So I left only 4544 MHz. iGPU is very strong. Im limited RAMs. First low clock memory for this GPU engine and second Sammi from AMD told me about single sided limits for iGPU score. Unfortunatelly, my RAMs are single sided :).



3D Mark11


AVP benchmarks - these benchmark is harder than real game of AVP. You can try it.
1920x1080, high settings, 16AF, tesselation


1920x1080, medium settings+tesselation


1680x1020, medium settings+tesselation


AIDA Memory and cache test


Wprime 1.55


Cinebench R11.5 - single and multi CPU score


Cinebench R15


Fritzchess benchmark


Truecrypt


x264FHD test in 1080P


Superpi 32M (as 5100 MHz Richland)


demonkevy666 wanted what about cores unit. I must CPU return back, until Il have new only for me :). But I benchmarking two test for you :D

First 1CU/2C, so classic one module
All test I did with 4 GHz clock, Cinebench R11.5 and Fritzchess benchmark





Now 2CU/2C, so two modules with two active cores





We can see, 2CU/2C is really better!


Others tests:

3D Mark Vantage, CPU stable clock, iGPU autoclock


Cinebench R11.5 at 4645 MHz


Cinebench R15 at 4645 MHz


Fritzchess benchmark


Superpi 1M at 4793 MHz, I had run with 4850 MHz, but worse score...


Superpi 32M at 4799 MHz, this score is as 5300 MHz Richland :), Kaveri is in 32M very effective.


What about power consumption?


I was not surprised about lower consumed number in load. But higher idle. Why? I do not know, maybe BIOS or board, Richland and Trinity I tested with another board...Remember, I use high PSU 1200W Corsair for test, with normal 350-400W PSU will be value lower.
After OC is Kaveri really quicker than OC Richland, in all test is winner, sometimes very clearly (wprime, R11.5, superpi, 3D Mark, AVP) and with lower power consumption.
 
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Messages
10,666 (1.94/day)
System Name MoFo 2
Processor AMD PhenomII 1100T @ 4.2Ghz
Motherboard Asus Crosshair IV
Cooling Swiftec 655 pump, Apogee GT,, MCR360mm Rad, 1/2 loop.
Memory 8GB DDR3-2133 @ 1900 8.9.9.24 1T
Video Card(s) HD7970 1250/1750
Storage Agility 3 SSD 6TB RAID 0 on RAID Card
Display(s) 46" 1080P Toshiba LCD
Case Rosewill R6A34-BK modded (thanks to MKmods)
Audio Device(s) ATI HDMI
Power Supply 750W PC Power & Cooling modded (thanks to MKmods)
Software A lot.
Benchmark Scores Its fast. Enough.
So what I am seeing here is a slight fix for the L2 cache latency, and if this chip didn't have the GPU included and instead had 4 more cores and some higher speed L3 cache.......
 
Top