AMD Athlon 64 or Intel Pentium 4 ?

[zAAm]

So you can safely compare a 3.2GHz Pentium4 with an Athlon64 3200+ even though the Athlon runs at only 2GHz... Intel's and AMD's strategies are different but they are comparable through product numbers don't worry.

 

[bektaz]

AMD 64 socket 939 is better for whom wants a high performance computer, lowest price, and cool system (the rumors that say an AMD's was hotter than Intel's was totally unacceptable for nowdays), 3200+ was a good choice for U. dont forget to be followed by 512 mb system memory or higher, for gaming ?? Lower budget >> 9550, 9800se midrange>>9800se/pro, high >>x700 above.

 

[Morlak]

Intel has fixed a lot of issues with the 600 series. EM64T for 64bit operating systems. A much Longer pipeline (supposed to help gameplay, i dunno). A large on-die L2 cache of 2MB (double any AMD I know of including the awesome FX-55. I mean awesome in a good way). SpedStep which lowers clock speed until you need it, which also lowers the operating tempeture by a large amount.

 

[gR3iF]

as i said before intel speedstep
amd cool and quiet
amd better workin
intel higher frequencies
amd "better" gameplay
intel "better peformance multitasking and deskto"
and so on yopu can compare anyway and always

 

[Hellraiser1981]

Hey everyone, the athlon 64 X2 is supposed to be released for computex. (may 31).
I'm currently an intel fan, but when these procs come out, I'll be moving to S939 for sure. The A64X2 will come in 4 flavors on launch. I'd prefer the San Diego core with more cache. There are some benchmarks floating around the web from engineering samples. Needless to say, these procs kick major ass!!! The A64X2 supports Hyperthreading, AMD stabs Intel with a pointy stick once again. The coolest part-only a bios update is required for existing 939 boards.

 

[djbbenn]

They don't support hyperthreading, they only take advantage of the programming of HT with their dual cores.

-Dan

 

[nyioo7@hotmail.com]

amd is best for the gaming. it's cool 'n quiet overclock the processor when you play the game so it makes the games so much faster. i had trouble choosing processor but i went with amd athlon 3000+ @ 2.2 ghz i can go all the way to 2.5 ghz but 2.2 is enough and error free. but for encoding and other stuff intel is the best. amd can't beat intel in tht. but one bad thing about intel is , its' hyperthreading is not supported by all the program only some does. amd's hypertransport speed up the performance of processor so it works every time. also amd 754 socket doesn't support dual channel so it's kind of useless if you are a serious gamer. only 939 does. also if you have amd 64 you can use windows xp x64 without spending extra money.

 

[Morlak]

but one bad thing about intel is , its' hyperthreading is not supported by all the program only some does. amd's hypertransport speed up the performance of processor so it works every time. also amd 754 socket doesn't support dual channel so it's kind of useless if you are a serious gamer. only 939 does. also if you have amd 64 you can use windows xp x64 without spending extra money.

Well HT is supported by Windows XP which I use more than anything else. 600 series P4s have EM64T that will run Windows 64bit. No new info here. In the end people that have any sense at all are going to research a major purchase and get whichever one they want, or can afford. The guy that started this thread has already stated he wants an AMD for gaming, so I wish him luck and hope he gets what he wants.

 

[gR3iF]

i will go for an mobile intel in a few weeks it will be very good for gaming an noise hopefully i will get the aopen barebone

 

[Morlak]

Is AOpen the only company making desktop MBs for the M? They are starting to get some good features on the boards like PCIe.

 

[geeman74]

amd is best for the gaming. it's cool 'n quiet overclock the processor when you play the game so it makes the games so much faster. i had trouble choosing processor but i went with amd athlon 3000+ @ 2.2 ghz i can go all the way to 2.5 ghz but 2.2 is enough and error free. but for encoding and other stuff intel is the best. amd can't beat intel in tht. but one bad thing about intel is , its' hyperthreading is not supported by all the program only some does. amd's hypertransport speed up the performance of processor so it works every time. also amd 754 socket doesn't support dual channel so it's kind of useless if you are a serious gamer. only 939 does. also if you have amd 64 you can use windows xp x64 without spending extra money.

intel better for encoding!
have you seen the dual core amd chips they beat intel for nearly everything
the fx55 beats intels encoding apart from music is a bit slower
and video is 3secs slower over 90mins films

 

[gR3iF]

so what?
tell us something new

 

[djbbenn]

This thread is still going...lol.

-Dan

 

[Gzero]

We need a new competitor in th cpu arena, I am getting bored of talking about two very similiar companies. Could IBM start making cpu's for main stream, I wonder.
Its settled then, you have your own opinion and your freedom of choice to choose the cpu for you regardless of speed and power.
(ie you don't walk into the pet store and ask for the fastest, most intelligent, easist to look after animal.)

 

[Deleted member 3]

IBM already makes mainstream CPU's. Buy a mac. Don't want an apple? No problem there are non-apple PowerPC boards. They're not cheap though, they're mainly for amiga.
You could also get a VIA cpu though it's crap performance wise.

Long story short, you're right, just Intel and AMD

 

[Snipe0876]

intel better for encoding!
have you seen the dual core amd chips they beat intel for nearly everything
the fx55 beats intels encoding apart from music is a bit slower
and video is 3secs slower over 90mins films

exactly what i wanted to say intel hold the market on the encoding but this X2 is gonna be unbelievable at it as for gaming it wont improve ur gaming just multitasking id love to see intel come with somthing to beat it though it be a class come back 1 for the books and better processors for all of us im down for the processor at the time and so far the X2 seems to be the way to go but wait a week or 2 thatll change to

 

[mikechinym]

AMD for game, Intel goes for office work.

 

[gR3iF]

omg antoher spamm here we have had this maybe 10 times and no one is reading what the real people are writing

 

[Snipe0876]

omg antoher spamm here we have had this maybe 10 times and no one is reading what the real people are writing

just making it clear that the new X2 is the best of intel and amd itll be better than intel for multi tasking and as good for games as AMD can make it it is the dogs bollox and i was researching into this check this out

this is about nvidia but anyway some of the new cards coming from nvidia is not sli supported and in my eyes the A6800 ultra is a class card but have u seen its price recently hehe u can buy 2 of them for under 500 pounds sterling now. Those 2 cards id say will out perform any 1 card Nvidia brings out for a while so while peeps buy the latest graphics cards spending 500 pounds on each card say for arguments sake it takes nvidia 3 or 4 cards before it topless the 2 cards with its 1 card. Thats 2000 they have spent to get to that point were as u r 500 pounds with u r 2 A6800 ultras is still a force to be reckoned with this is a long term solution and u have the extra money to spend on ur X2 chip or whatever Intel equivalent is all for around the small price of 1000 pounds for a top PC. bare in mind id use my 1gb corsair ram 3200 from this and hdds and dvd writers and so on but this seems to be the most sensible decision in graphics i might do it soon when these X2 chips come out that be class.

 

[gR3iF]

just to your update when it comes to multitasking intel is much better then amd
but for particular games amd is better

 

[Snipe0876]

just to your update when it comes to multitasking intel is much better then amd
but for particular games amd is better

Ermm i dont wanna start a whole debate on this but im under the impression that the X2 is gonna be better than any pentium for multitasking is there any hard facts on this ill have to look plz post as if im gonna get it i wanna know the full on it.#


updated heres a link http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-18392-2074-x-x-x

this shows that the X2 won on 4 tests with pentium taking 2 some big differences though in what AMD lacked and won in

Quoted http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rid=93419
Intel's dual-core efforts showed some marked improvement in several areas, but they were already doing pretty well at the general-purpose multitasking thing with Hyper-Threading. AMD was in dire need of dual-core CPUs to address this deficiency, and they've addressed it in spades.

What we're looking at here is a clean sweep. We can find a couple of edge cases – mostly synthetic benchmarks—where Intel's dual-core desktops outpace AMD's new Athlon 64 X2. We're more concerned with real applications, and when it comes to those, we have a hard time finding any situation where a dual-core Pentium comes out ahead of a dual-core Athlon 64. Even in most single-threaded apps, AMD takes the cake. Games are an absolute blow-out, with the Athlon 64 X2 handily outstripping even a liquid-cooled Extreme Edition dual-core Pentium overclocked by 25%. And it's not just games: The X2 beat the massively overclocked Pentium in DivX encoding and LightWave rendering, and basically tied it on the 3ds max SPEC APC test.

i think that concludes it tbh

 

[gR3iF]

dito wtach tomshardware.com stresstest for amd x2 4800+ and an p4 860ee
the task are divs encoding, coding a michael jackson lp, far cry bench and intel was better while tranposrting the work to from all applications

so the intel pentuium has in ht an advantage

 

[Snipe0876]

this being due to the high ram latencys using ddr2 and so on ?

but given a choice considering AMD has made significant improvement in the multitasking would u get a intel D or a amd X2 like u see the FX 55 getting owned in all multi tasking big style but the X2 seems to hold in line with the best of multitasking it can only get better for it that to me is a big notch up it isnt about gaming anymore for em they want it all

Or better wait for amd to bring a Fx version of the X2 that be awsome

 

[gR3iF]

omg intel fastest ddr2 ram by ocz amd ocz ddr1 ram
but the last was better done by intel