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AMD Athlon X4 Socket FM2 CPUs Based on Richland Silicon Go On Sale

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AMD unveiled the first batch of Athlon X4 CPUs in the socket FM2 package, based on its latest Richland silicon. These chips stop short of being labeled APUs, for they lack integrated graphics. You need a discrete graphics card. Unlike its previous generation "Trinity" silicon-based Athlon X4 CPUs, AMD unveiled a few parts with high clock speeds, some even with unlocked base-clock multipliers, targeting consumers who want to build socket FM2-based gaming PCs, but don't intend to use the integrated graphics.

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I'm surprised they haven't dumped out a six core fm2 chip by now...
 

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They won't do that till they get the fab process sorted out. The next logical step is a chip with three modules and a 640 SP IGP. AMD is banking on GloFo to get 20 nm right. Then it can build APUs and CPUs on that node. High TC GPUs are better left to the expertise of TSMC.
 

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are these like the apus but with the gpu portion locked due to instability?
 
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I'm now really curious to see if it performs as well as the FX-4350.
 
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So it's basically an FX-43xx with less cache? Odd that this is FM2 instead of AM3+ also.
 
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These are "Athlon" model CPUs people - with no GPU section. Trinity and Richland models are APUs not CPUs. These models offer improved desktop performance over Trinity APUs at a good price, for those desiring to use descrete GPU cards. You save some $$$ on these CPUs that you can apply toward your GPU card. It's just another market segment niche. Some folks don't want to pay for an APU with IGP when they plan to use a descrete GPU. This will make those folks happy. :)
 

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These are "Athlon" model CPUs people - with no GPU section. Trinity and Richland models are APUs not CPUs. These models offer improved desktop performance over Trinity APUs at a good price, for those desiring to use descrete GPU cards. You save some $$$ on these CPUs that you can apply toward your GPU card. It's just another market segment niche. Some folks don't want to pay for an APU with IGP when they plan to use a descrete GPU. This will make those folks happy. :)
That's what the AM3+ socket is for, FM2 is for APU's. So really this makes no sense at all.
 
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That's what the AM3+ socket is for, FM2 is for APU's. So really this makes no sense at all.
Socket AM3+ already has the FX-4xxx series, to put the Richland Athlon II X4 on AM3+ also would be to compete against itself. Hence, why FM2 was used.
 

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Socket AM3+ already has the FX-4xxx series, to put the Richland Athlon II X4 on AM3+ also would be to compete against itself. Hence, why FM2 was used.
No, all APUs with defective graphics cores becomes this. They are designed with FM2 in mind, not AM3+. I am also interested in 4350 vs 6800K, no one seems to be doing it?
 

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So it's basically an FX-43xx with less cache? Odd that this is FM2 instead of AM3+ also.
That's what the AM3+ socket is for, FM2 is for APU's. So really this makes no sense at all.
They have to get rid of the chips with bad iGPUs somehow.
 
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These are "Athlon" model CPUs people - with no GPU section. Trinity and Richland models are APUs not CPUs. These models offer improved desktop performance over Trinity APUs at a good price, for those desiring to use descrete GPU cards. You save some $$$ on these CPUs that you can apply toward your GPU card. It's just another market segment niche. Some folks don't want to pay for an APU with IGP when they plan to use a descrete GPU. This will make those folks happy. :)
The base and turbo speeds are actually lower than the A10-6800K (which is 4.1 base and 4.4 turbo)...so it won't have 'improved desktop performance' unless it overclocks way higher. But at least it's cheaper although only by a few dollars for the BE, the locked multiplier version for $100 actually seems like a better buy.
 

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The base and turbo speeds are actually lower than the A10-6800K (which is 4.1 base and 4.4 turbo)...so it won't have 'improved desktop performance' unless it overclocks way higher. But at least it's cheaper although only by a few dollars for the BE, the locked multiplier version for $100 actually seems like a better buy.
Read what he said again:

These models offer improved desktop performance over Trinity APUs at a good price
A10-6800K isn't a Trinity APU, it is a Richland APU.
 
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AMD's biggest problem in making a six-core/three-module APU with an even better IGP is not necessarily the TDP, but the memory bandwidth. The integrated memory controller performs very poorly in regards to actual bandwidth and I don't think it can feed both the CPU and GPU parts simultaneously well enough.
 
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I'm surprised they haven't dumped out a six core fm2 chip by now...
FX is that step. 6 core A10 would step into FX pricing
 

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Not a good idea to cannibalise your own products.
Very few people would buy fm2 just to get a six core when they are easily available with am3, but down the road the upgrade would be nice.
 

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Very few people would buy fm2 just to get a six core when they are easily available with am3, but down the road the upgrade would be nice.
Personally, I would like to see what AMD initially had several years ago on their roadmap. Tighter coupling of the CPU cores to the GPU cores. I really would like to see another step made towards a heterogeneous CPU. That's me though.

Honestly, I think the smart move would be to shrink the die and try to reduce power consumption. The smaller die would also give a little more room for more GPU horsepower. I don't think FM2 needs more cores. It would be nice, but it doesn't need it.