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AMD ends driver support for R9 Fury and Radeon 200, 300 series???

Do you think that AMD should stop their driver support for those cards?

  • Yes they are old and useless

    Votes: 18 20.0%
  • No those cards still have the value for gamers

    Votes: 41 45.6%
  • They should stop driver support for series 200&300 but continue to support R9 Fury cards

    Votes: 17 18.9%
  • Doesn't matter as i can still download drivers and use the GPU

    Votes: 14 15.6%

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"AMD confirmed it is retiring a large number of its graphics card today. Starting with Adrenalin 21.6.1 driver graphics card from Radeon Fury, Radeon 300, as well as Radeon 200 series, will no longer be supported, as all these cards have been moved to the legacy section"

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Wow!!!In my opinion this is just really BAD move from AMD as R9 Fury and even R9 390 & 290 Series of cards are still very capable especially when we know that during this Mining craze many Gamers simply do not have a choice and need to use some of the older cards but seems like AMD possibly believe that FSR could boost r9 Fury/290/390 series of cards a bit to much for their taste and seems like that AMD do not want's to give you always free performance.....

What is your opinion about this?

P.S.What happened with Fine Wine AMD?
 
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I'll be damned. I just built my son's and wife's computers with two of my old Fury X's out of my old gaming system. Those cards are still very good and my son games at 1080p and there is nothing holds that card back...except the drivers now. I must say, this is one of those rare occasions where AMD completely fails the consumer.
 
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"AMD confirmed it is retiring a large number of its graphics card today. Starting with Adrenalin 21.6.1 driver graphics card from Radeon Fury, Radeon 300, as well as Radeon 200 series, will no longer be supported, as all these cards have been moved to the legacy section"

Wow!!!In my opinion this is just really BAD move from AMD as R9 Fury and even R9 390 & 290 Series of cards are still very capable especially when we know that during this Mining craze many Gamers simply do not have a choice and need to use some of the older cards but seems like AMD possibly believe that FSR could boost r9 Fury/290/390 series of cards a bit to much for their taste and seems like that AMD do not want's to give you always free performance.....

What is your opinion about this?

P.S.What happened with Fine Wine AMD?

Nothing, AMD fans have always eaten too much of hallucinogenic mushrooms and believed AMD somehow treated them differently than unnamed customers and AMD wasn't interested in improving their margins and lowering expenses as much as possible.

AMD has also dropped support for Windows 7/8.1.

Since the release of the Ryzen 5000 series it's all been crystal clear. I wonder why you're still surprised.
 
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I'll be damned. I just built my son's and wife's computers with two of my old Fury X's out of my old gaming system. Those cards are still very good and my son games at 1080p and there is nothing holds that card back...except the drivers now. I must say, this is one of those rare occasions where AMD completely fails the consumer.
Yep...I totally agree with you I have R9 Fury and that card is still very capable and even on higher resolution 1440p/4K(lower details)can still performs really good in some games....+ I can just imagine that with FSR they could work much much better and maybe that's the real reason why AMD do not want to support those cards anymore......
 
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It's a shame, I knew this was coming, but nobody was forewarned of it. NVIDIA gave the public at large three months advance notice for Kepler's discontinuance, and this came out of the blue. It's bad timing, too. I sincerely think the R9 Fury series (and Tonga) should still be supported, though. They're barely 5 years old, share a common base architecture with Polaris - and that's gotta be a kick in the teeth - Maxwell has at least 3 years left for the official 8-year policy to lapse, and it's likely they'll support it closer to 9 as they've done with Kepler.
 
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Yep...I totally agree with you I have R9 Fury and that card is still very capable and even on higher resolution 1440p/4K(lower details)can still performs really good in some games....+ I can just imagine that with FSR they could work much much better and maybe that's the real reason why AMD do not want to support those cards anymore......
That is very plausible. I had my Fury X's running 3 x 1440p 60hz monitors. The only reason why I upgraded to the 6900XT was because I upgraded to 3 x 1440p 144/170hz monitors.
 
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im sorry to say but us "gpu owners" are just a cash cow and alas when the makers move on some of us gets left behind "i own 2 r9 Fs". its a dog eat dog world.
 
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Folks freaking out over "official" FSR support can probably rest easy. It's middleware and requires developer implementation, and 21.5.2 has more in common with future AMD drivers than any NVIDIA driver will ever hope to, yet the tech works on GeForce. It's probably not going to receive driver-side performance optimizations, so maybe in a longer-term future as 21.5.2 ages and becomes obsolete, games begin to refuse to run or disable specific features on this hardware.

That's how Fermi and its 391.35 driver has been on its undead state of late, and how the 342.01 drivers for the Tesla generation have worked for the past few years now, in the games that still support DX10 codepaths and/or GL 3.3. It's a bit more uncommon to AMD folks because the last GPU that had been discontinued was the HD 6970 and that goes many years back by now. Either way, a toast to the R9 Fury X, it was definitely one of the most exquisite and interesting GPUs I have ever owned.
 
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I own an R9 280X. It was supposed to be a backup. Not anymore, I guess.
 
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I guess my pending upgrade from my Fury X to a 6800 XT or 6900 XT is indeed timely. I guess I could say I'm a bit disappointed, but ... meh. I've stuck with 21.2.3 for a while anyhow, as the more recent releases had some significant bugs for me (non-working framerate limiters, non-working overlays, etc.).

IMO, they should have kept including game optimizations for these cards for a few years more, but it's entirely reasonable that they are excluded from releases pushing features that the GPUs don't support at all. Then again, is their driver delivery system so non-modular that they couldn't just flag these features for exclusion on non-compatible cards and still install the update? This of course has its own set of issues (what's the point of an update if it doesn't really contain anything?), but it would keep the door open for game optimizations. I mean, Polaris and Vega are still GCN, so most optimizations should carry backwards to previous GCN GPUs with minor tweaks, right?
 
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I think it makes sense, five years is long time in tech, never mind seven or ten years.

Sure, you're not getting any more updates, but it's not like the cards are suddenly going to stop working.
 
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I think it makes sense, five years is long time in tech, never mind seven or ten years.

Sure, you're not getting any more updates, but it's not like the cards are suddenly going to stop working.
Sure they are not going to STOP working BUT some of those cards like R9 Fury series and even R9 390/290 aren't that old(5-6 years)and those cards are still very capable + they could REALLY benefit from new FSR tech especially in these time when Gamers struggling to get anything decent AMD deciding to drop support like that.....and yeah not even to mention that some of those cards was been payed premium price back then....to getting driver support for "just"5 years???Now the more I am thinking about this I believe that am actually really disgusted by this move and after this I am going to think twice if I am going to buy anything anymore from AMD.....
 
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Sure they are not going to STOP working BUT some of those cards like R9 Fury series and even R9 390/290 aren't that old(5-6 years)and those cards are still very capable + they could REALLY benefit from new FSR tech especially in these time when Gamers struggling to get anything decent AMD deciding to drop support like that.....and yeah not even to mention that some of those cards was been payed premium price back then....to getting driver support for "just"5 years???I am actually really disgusted by this move from AMD.....
Can you even prove if FSR is technically feasible on GCN 1-3? And please back that up with actual documentation, not “muh, AMD doesn't want to because profits” kind of arguments. I mean, that's a valid point, but technical feasibility is more important first.

And premium price? I'd argue that premium price target people who can upgrade far more often than the rest of the price bracket targets.

Gamers struggling to get anything decent: these are old cards. No driver update is suddenly going to boost their performance by 50%, maybe not even 10% in select hypothetical games that would have been supported if the support for these cards were not dropped. They are old, so anyone that wants to get something decent should just save up money to buy something in the newer architectures. I'm not even saying to buy high end GPUs, just something newer than old cards.

Also, people bitch at AMD for driver issues, but then want them to support seven GPU architectures? Really?
 

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I used to have a 390 and while it did okay for the time, it was one of the most power hungry and unstable GPUs I've ever owned. It was incredibly finicky for the majority of the time I used it, both across Windows and Linux. When I upgraded to a Vega 64 the difference was night and day when it came to stability and performance. AMD isn't making any money off supporting the older GPUs either and acts as a barrier to making further improvements to their drivers for newer cards since a lot of code is shared. There are a lot of good reasons for AMD to do this. The oldest AMD GPU I currently use is the Vega 64. So... meh, nbd.

With that said, it's not like your GPU will suddenly stop working because AMD decided to stop supporting it. It just means that you're stuck with the last version of drivers that they release. Sooner or later, you'll need a new GPU, but that probably won't be tomorrow or even the near future.
 
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I used to have a 390 and while it did okay for the time, it was one of the most power hungry and unstable GPUs I've ever owned. It was incredibly finicky for the majority of the time I used it, both across Windows and Linux. When I upgraded to a Vega 64 the difference was night and day when it came to stability and performance. AMD isn't making any money off supporting the older GPUs either and acts as a barrier to making further improvements to their drivers for newer cards since a lot of code is shared. There are a lot of good reasons for AMD to do this. The oldest AMD GPU I currently use is the Vega 64. So... meh, nbd.

With that said, it's not like your GPU will suddenly stop working because AMD decided to stop supporting it. It just means that you're stuck with the last version of drivers that they release. Sooner or later, you'll need a new GPU, but that probably won't be tomorrow or even the near future.
That's perfectly clear....and I am not one of those guys that wants to pick a "Green"or"Red" team I just want best bang for my buck....now seeing the company that drops driver support for GPU's that are 5+ years old do not looks good in my eyes...What's next move 3 years of drivers support??....maybe 2 years??.....If this pass as "OK"move from AMD do you think that Nvidia not going to do the same after a while...Who knows maybe this is going to become common practice from now on.....
 
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I own an R9 280X. It was supposed to be a backup. Not anymore, I guess.
My Sapphire 290 was a sweet card until I swapped it last year, and was happy to have it for a fall back. To be fair tho, it's not like they're disabling the old cards, or the last set of drivers suddenly no longer works. It's just that there won't be any newer drivers, and I can understand a company focusing on the newer technology cards.
 

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That's perfectly clear....and I am not one of those guys that wants to pick a "Green"or"Red" team I just want best bang for my buck....now seeing the company that drops driver support for GPU's that are 5+ years old do not looks good in my eyes...What's next move 3 years of drivers support??....maybe 2 years??.....If this pass as "OK"move from AMD do you think that Nvidia not going to do the same after a while...Who knows maybe this is going to become common practice from now on.....
Another thing to consider is that now AMDGPU in Linux is fairly stable for the earlier GCN chips these days and that if you find that the GPU no longer works in Windows, you might still have luck in Linux and Proton works pretty damn well these days. Either way, nothing lasts forever and this just means that at some point in the future, the last driver that was released will be insufficient, but there are still options. Might not be the best options, but there are options.

The timing just sucks because GPUs are incredibly expensive right now and I would not blame anyone for not wanting to upgrade right this second.
 
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Can you even prove if FSR is technically feasible on GCN 1-3? And please back that up with actual documentation, not “muh, AMD doesn't want to because profits” kind of arguments. I mean, that's a valid point, but technical feasibility is more important first.

And premium price? I'd argue that premium price target people who can upgrade far more often than the rest of the price bracket targets.

Gamers struggling to get anything decent: these are old cards. No driver update is suddenly going to boost their performance by 50%, maybe not even 10% in select hypothetical games that would have been supported if the support for these cards were not dropped. They are old, so anyone that wants to get something decent should just save up money to buy something in the newer architectures. I'm not even saying to buy high end GPUs, just something newer than old cards.

Also, people bitch at AMD for driver issues, but then want them to support seven GPU architectures? Really?
I was about to say the same thing. Given that AMD claimed some significant updates across the entire GPU for Polaris and Vega, I wonder if earlier GCN can actually support FSR at all. It would definitel be nice if it could, but it's entirely feasible that it can't.
 

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Remember when nVidia dropped support for cards after 12 years of support with 3 years of advanced notice and the AMD fanboys lost their minds? Well Fury owners got 6 years of support and then just dropped with no notice.

These cards can't support FidelityFX Super Resolution, that's it.
So don't allow it to be enabled on cards it isn't supported, don't just drop all support for the cards entirely.
 

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Remember when nVidia dropped support for cards after 12 years of support with 3 years of advanced notice and the AMD fanboys lost their minds? Well Fury owners got 6 years of support and then just dropped with no notice.


So don't allow it to be enabled on cards it isn't supported, don't just drop all support for the cards entirely.
Gotta agree here, even tho I understand dropping driver support for older products. The "no notice" bugs me, but then, what are people going to do, even if they did give notice? If you go out today and buy something that old, you have to know it's not supporting the newest Bell or Whistle, so that's no issue or excuse for complaint. And there's nothing I could have done last week or month, knowing that they weren't going to make new drivers for a 5-year old (or older) card. Still, kind of a d*ck move....
 

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I've never understood the uproar about these things. It's not like the cards will stop working.
 
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I've never understood the uproar about these things. It's not like the cards will stop working.

I am wondering if AMD and Nvidia haven't stopped driver supports would we have seen graphics drivers around 1GB already or would they have made them in to series of the graphics card to cut down the drivers so they won't be a massive to download?

we see like 400-500MB for drivers now if this does it, it's still huge in 2021 not everyone have a big connection I am just lucky to have 1Gbit up and down because it can be provided even I would have taken 500Mbit but it's more expensive because it's only the main fiber supplier that give that speed and they bundle it with anti-virus, wifi and shit that I don't need and I can not get a discount if I don't want it they don't care they want to offer wifi garantee and shitty first line support.

I am just lucky there are other companies that just focuses on raw internet nothing else.
 
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I've never understood the uproar about these things. It's not like the cards will stop working.
I think the frustration is that there will not be any driver fixes for new games or if a current popular title has an update. Even the 200 series is still capable of playing esports titles at a respectable FPS @ 1080p.
 
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I think the frustration is that there will not be any driver fixes for new games or if a current popular title has an update.

This is the thing that people do not understand. Do you really think AMD was actively working on bug fixes for these cards until this day for the past 8 years ?

No way, AMD probably stopped working on these in any meaningful way years ago, this is just a formality. Think about Kepler cards, technically they are supported to this day but they've been performing horrendously bad in new titles for years now, it's pretty clear that nothing is done for those products. Just because a company claims they are supporting a product it does not mean they are actively doing so.
 
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