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this is interesting to people that struggle with high clocks on these chips. apparently from AMD.



*info*

found this on http://forums.vr-zone.com/hardware-depot/2884721-the-amd-fx-9590-fx-centurion-preview-6.html

Ha, that bit about VRM cooling is funny. Shouldn't cooling the VRMs be pretty high on the list of any overclocker nowadays?
I'm sitting at 4.4 on stock volts and the VRMs are already toastier than those on my RIVE. Need to get a small fan or two on the VRM heatsink before pushing for 4.6-4.7 on this 8350.
 
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Ha, that bit about VRM cooling is funny. Shouldn't cooling the VRMs be pretty high on the list of any overclocker nowadays?
I'm sitting at 4.4 on stock volts and the VRMs are already toastier than those on my RIVE. Need to get a small fan or two on the VRM heatsink before pushing for 4.6-4.7 on this 8350.

and the spelling seems off, i dont know if its a fake. it explains a lot tho, and the importance for a decent psu. i was thinking on modding mine as ive got two cpu outs (2 into 1), cool the vrms and see what happens lol

they forgot to mention the vrm circuit on the back of the board which trips out on most boards, and isnt designed for that amount of powerdraw.
 
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Ha, that bit about VRM cooling is funny. Shouldn't cooling the VRMs be pretty high on the list of any overclocker nowadays?
I'm sitting at 4.4 on stock volts and the VRMs are already toastier than those on my RIVE. Need to get a small fan or two on the VRM heatsink before pushing for 4.6-4.7 on this 8350.

I found that a small chipset fan on the back of the mobo helped immensely. I have it mounted right on the CPU H/S bracket.
 

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I found that a small chipset fan on the back of the mobo helped immensely. I have it mounted right on the CPU H/S bracket.

Any way you could get a pic?
 
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Ya I can but I'll have to do it later. My work computer and this site don't get along. Here's a link to a thread that has a pic though. http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=723442
This was me struggling to contain my FX8350 on a M5A 99x board with a 6+2 phase. Just didn't cut it so I got the Sabertooth.
 
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ive got mine on the vrm circuit which also helps a lot



and back in the day when my case was black and benching hard
 

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Ya I can but I'll have to do it later. My work computer and this site don't get along. Here's a link to a thread that has a pic though. http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=723442
This was me struggling to contain my FX8350 on a M5A 99x board with a 6+2 phase. Just didn't cut it so I got the Sabertooth.

Ah, I see. You're actually cooling the CPU socket itself.
I'm talking about the VRMs exclusively. As I said, the VRMs on this 990FXA-UD5 get blistering hot at 4.4 on stock voltage(1.368v according to CPU-z), even at idle(Cool'n'Quiet disabled). When I say blistering hot, I mean it literally. I reached in and touched the VRM heatsink at idle and damn near burnt myself instantly. On the other hand, the VRM heatsink on my RIVE with this 3820 at 4.9 only gets warm to the touch. Under load it gets toasty, but nowhere near as hot as the UD5. I'm not sure if this is an Asus/Gigabyte difference or an AMD/intel difference or what, but it's insane how hot the VRM heatsink on this UD5 gets. Good thing it's "Ultra Durable" :p
The saddest part is, if I try to up the CPU to 4.5, I get throttling because of the VRM temps.

ive got mine on the vrm circuit which also helps a lot
http://imageshack.us/a/img198/7930/20130505122157.jpg


and back in the day when my case was black and benching hard
http://imageshack.us/a/img811/6876/photo0018az.jpg

You're cooling the opposite side of the board that the VRMs are on. I suppose it helps, but I would imagine decent airflow over the VRM heatsink would help more...
 
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Ya I can but I'll have to do it later. My work computer and this site don't get along. Here's a link to a thread that has a pic though. http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=723442
This was me struggling to contain my FX8350 on a M5A 99x board with a 6+2 phase. Just didn't cut it so I got the Sabertooth.

Thanks for reminding me of this. I wanted to try it out now that I have a case that has room on the backside.
 
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Ah, I see. You're actually cooling the CPU socket itself.
I'm talking about the VRMs exclusively. As I said, the VRMs on this 990FXA-UD5 get blistering hot at 4.4 on stock voltage(1.368v according to CPU-z), even at idle(Cool'n'Quiet disabled). When I say blistering hot, I mean it literally. I reached in and touched the VRM heatsink at idle and damn near burnt myself instantly. On the other hand, the VRM heatsink on my RIVE with this 3820 at 4.9 only gets warm to the touch. Under load it gets toasty, but nowhere near as hot as the UD5. I'm not sure if this is an Asus/Gigabyte difference or an AMD/intel difference or what, but it's insane how hot the VRM heatsink on this UD5 gets. Good thing it's "Ultra Durable" :p
The saddest part is, if I try to up the CPU to 4.5, I get throttling because of the VRM temps.



You're cooling the opposite side of the board that the VRMs are on. I suppose it helps, but I would imagine decent airflow over the VRM heatsink would help more...

You can take a couple chipset fans and use 2 sided tape and actuall stick them right to the top of the vrm or heatsink. I'll look for a pic. No luck with the pic
 
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You're cooling the opposite side of the board that the VRMs are on. I suppose it helps, but I would imagine decent airflow over the VRM heatsink would help more...

i do both when stress testing or benching, but the vrm circuit one is 24/7
 

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You can take a couple chipset fans and use 2 sided tape and actuall stick them right to the top of the vrm or heatsink. I'll look for a pic. No luck with the pic
That's how I've done it in the past, but I'm all out of 60mm and smaller fans. I think I may have an old Antec Spot Cool, though. Gonna go look for it.
i do both when stress testing or benching, but the vrm circuit one is 24/7
I'm not sure I'm understanding correctly here, which one is 24/7? The fan cooling the VRM heatsink or the fan cooling the back of the motherboard?
 
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That's how I've done it in the past, but I'm all out of 60mm and smaller fans. I think I may have an old Antec Spot Cool, though. Gonna go look for it.

I'm not sure I'm understanding correctly here, which one? The fan cooling the VRM heatsink or the fan cooling the back of the motherboard?

heatsink and the back of mobo for stress testing, but the back of the mobo has been modded to be 24/7.
 

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heatsink and the back of mobo for stress testing, but the back of the mobo has been modded to be 24/7.

Alright, I get it now.:toast:
Still, as I mentioned earlier, it seems to me it would be more advantageous to cool the VRM heatsink 24/7 rather than the back of the board. I can see how cooling the back of the board would help, but not as much as the heatsink itself.:confused:
 
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my vrms dont get that hot for 24/7 usage, only with a shed of volts and at a long duration.

also this motherboard trips out phases because the vrm circuit at the back of the board gets too hot after an hour of stress testing, its needed. i guess the heat transfer from the vrms to the heatsink isnt all that good so stores heat in the board.

try it and youll youll see the vrms are cooler.
 

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my vrms dont get that hot for 24/7 usage, only with a shed of volts and at a long duration.

also this motherboard trips out phases because the vrm circuit at the back of the board gets too hot after an hour of stress testing, its needed. i guess the heat transfer from the vrms to the heatsink isnt all that good so stores heat in the board.

try it and youll youll see the vrms are cooler.

What mobo are you using? Wasn't it an Asus 970 EVO or something? On the UD5,the heatsink contacting my VRMs gets much hotter than the back of the board. I think it's board design differences here. Then again, I won't know which way will help me out better until I find a suitable fan and try it both ways.
I don't want to come across as an ass, I had just never even considered cooling the opposite side of the board because it seemed illogical and backwards.
Thanks, d1nk.
 
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tbh all of it gets hot, i find the cooler the back the cooler the vrms are and vice versa, both solutions is the best tbh.

and i got the asrock Fatality
 
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youre right the 9370 aint worth it!

new 8350 instead, and a game to test it (bit late to the party lol)
im not using it until i have the new loop etc together...


 
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Check the inside of your tin! Cool little easter eggs of what the tin might have been recycled from on the inside :D

already have and its as fun as the intel thread ahaa!

my 360 rad and res come tomorrow, but no case.. and still need fittings!
 
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So you've got another 8350 Dinky? Don't like the old one? Or is this a whole new system, board and all?

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The fan on the back does mak a big difference. You'll just have to try it!
 

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already have and its as fun as the intel thread ahaa!

my 360 rad and res come tomorrow, but no case.. and still need fittings!

wow your parts are arriving faster than mines :banghead:
 
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So you've got another 8350 Dinky? Don't like the old one? Or is this a whole new system, board and all?

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The fan on the back does mak a big difference. You'll just have to try it!

was planning on a total overhaul, wish i could find a trade for a CHVF wiith the fatality.

itll be the majority of the old stuff, but bigger and hopefully better.
 
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youre right the 9370 aint worth it!

new 8350 instead, and a game to test it (bit late to the party lol)
im not using it until i have the new loop etc together...

http://img.techpowerup.org/130730/2013-07-3013.49.59.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/130730/2013-07-3013.31.02.jpg

you get that game for free with 8350?

I put a vga heatsink fan on the NB chip and the temps came down from around 90C to high 40C under gaming stress. This actually lowered the VRM temps too. Ofcourse I am still running my 8320 @ 4.2 with 1.35v. With the big ass 4 pipe cooler the cpu temp never goes over 45C with gaming for hours.
 
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Benchmark Scores d1nky@hwbot.org
you get that game for free with 8350?

I put a vga heatsink fan on the NB chip and the temps came down from around 90C to high 40C under gaming stress. This actually lowered the VRM temps too. Ofcourse I am still running my 8320 @ 4.2 with 1.35v. With the big ass 4 pipe cooler the cpu temp never goes over 45C with gaming for hours.

nah i bought the game when i was drunk lol cd instead of download :slap:
 
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