AMD FX OC'ers Club

[RCoon]

asus is my first choice for products. i find the them to be rock solid, its funny some people get bad experiences, i have never.

my asus product list:

gts450
hd6850
hd7770
hd7950
M5a78LM mobo

every product has been going strong since the days its bought.

would of bought the crosshair if it wasnt so expensive.

I got my crosshair V formula for £155? Same price as my current GD65!
Brother is rocking it in his (my old) 8350 system.

 

[d1nky]

wth! everyone ive seen is about £170+ and when i went to buy a mobo they were about £180

so thought id settle for the fatality @ £140

 

[RCoon]

wth! everyone ive seen is about £170+ and when i went to buy a mobo they were about £180

so thought id settle for the fatality @ £140

Fatal1ty is a damn good board though!
I hated overclocking on the V formula, it was a huge pain, and my brother is by no means an experienced overclocker, and he barely got 4.6 out the board.
Sabertooth was a dream to clock on, 4.8Ghz on my first try with it.
Definitely want to try an ASRock board next time I upgrade.

 

[d1nky]

Fatal1ty is a damn good board though!
I hated overclocking on the V formula, it was a huge pain, and my brother is by no means an experienced overclocker, and he barely got 4.6 out the board.
Sabertooth was a dream to clock on, 4.8Ghz on my first try with it.
Definitely want to try an ASRock board next time I upgrade.

asrock am3+ i hope

 

[RCoon]

asrock am3+ i hope

REALLY want to buy the new Steamroller, regardless of performance, I like to have actually owned and tried these things instead of listening to synthetic benchmark-huggin hippies.
I actually feel non-bias when comparing 8350's and i5's

 

[os2wiz]

REALLY want to buy the new Steamroller, regardless of performance, I like to have actually owned and tried these things instead of listening to synthetic benchmark-huggin hippies.
I actually feel non-bias when comparing 8350's and i5's

Actually I have no problem comparing an FX-8350 against an I7 3770k in most applications I use. When steamroller FX is released I think it will compare favorably with a Hasbeen I7 4770K
in all multi-threaded apps and a bit slower in single threaded apps.

 

[d1nky]

as purely hypothetical what sort of price are we looking at for said steamroller 8 core?

 

[erocker]

as purely hypothetical what sort of price are we looking at for said steamroller 8 core?

1-5% for the pessimist. 10%-infinity for the optimist!

 

[d1nky]

you couldnt just said a price..... lol

 

[erocker]

you couldnt just said a price..... lol

Duh, I read "performance" for some reason. I'm going to assume that it will cost the same as the current 8 core offering.

 

[Durvelle27]

i got my crosshair v formula for £155? Same price as my current gd65!
Brother is rocking it in his (my old) 8350 system.

asus m5a97 evo ftw $70

 

[os2wiz]

as purely hypothetical what sort of price are we looking at for said steamroller 8 core?

No idea. I have no notion where AMD will seek to price this product. WE do not even know the frequency of the top of the line for this product. I would tend to believe it will be be as high as $249 and as low as $199 for the top of the line 8-core .

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Interesting. My board at the bios boot screen always shows different speeds, like for instance 4.77GHz, 4.89GHz, 4.40GHz, 4.56GHz and so on, but in Windows and in the BIOS it shows the correct speed of 4.70GHz to 4.71GHz. Humm?

So not everyone is seeing it though.
Is it just crosshair V's that vary this much as my clocks are stable on eco idle at 1500 ish but when set to (os and oc app) performance I do see it vary more than I had seen before (usually 5-10mhz here 25-70mhz)and does impinge stability near top clocks for me

 

[Davidjackhill123]

Is a high pressure fan really news nessasary for a CPU cooler

 

[d1nky]

hmm seems a lot of pressure, maybe itll cave in lol

whats the fan in question and heatsink?

also depends on other factors

 

[Davidjackhill123]

hmm seems a lot of pressure, maybe itll cave in lol

whats the fan in question and heatsink?

also depends on other factors

Collermaster 212 evo with 2 xmateck xlf series fans

 

[d1nky]

which ones are they?!

static pressure is more for watercoolers. but the rpm and airflow matter with heatsinks. as long as theyre the same itll be fine. tbh i got two different rated fans on mine and works brilliantly.

wasnt you the guy worried about the evo on the fx83**

if i was you id be more worried on getting the heatsink mounted properly, making sure you use good thermal compound and contact is best it can be.

if this is your first time, read how to's and watch youtube vids

 

[Davidjackhill123]

which ones are they?!

static pressure is more for watercoolers. but the rpm and airflow matter with heatsinks. as long as theyre the same itll be fine. tbh i got two different rated fans on mine and works brilliantly.

wasnt you the guy worried about the evo on the fx83**

if i was you id be more worried on getting the heatsink mounted properly, making sure you use good thermal compound and contact is best it can be.

if this is your first time, read how to's and watch youtube vids

Yep that was me thanks dude

 

[Super XP]

So not everyone is seeing it though.
Is it just crosshair V's that vary this much as my clocks are stable on eco idle at 1500 ish but when set to (os and oc app) performance I do see it vary more than I had seen before (usually 5-10mhz here 25-70mhz)and does impinge stability near top clocks for me

Yes agreed. Personally I have no issue what the bios post shows, so long as it runs 110% stable at 4.70GHz which it currently does.
I am curious how stable can you get your system if you do lower the vCore to 1.4v. Good Luck

Actually I have no problem comparing an FX-8350 against an I7 3770k in most applications I use. When steamroller FX is released I think it will compare favorably with a Hasbeen I7 4770K
in all multi-threaded apps and a bit slower in single threaded apps.

Good point. though personally I don't see Steamroller if based on Socket AM3+ coming out with 10-Cores. And knowing companies in general, if AMD had a chance to price its CPU's higher than what they are today, they would, but the performance needs to translate into the price hike.

Speculation here, I can see Steamroller improving greatly by as much as 15% to 30% over the Piledriver. Yes and that includes both Single & Multi-threading...

 

[suraswami]

Yes agreed. Personally I have no issue what the bios post shows, so long as it runs 110% stable at 4.70GHz which it currently does.
I am curious how stable can you get your system if you do lower the vCore to 1.4v. Good Luck

Good point. though personally I don't see Steamroller if based on Socket AM3+ coming out with 10-Cores. And knowing companies in general, if AMD had a chance to price its CPU's higher than what they are today, they would, but the performance needs to translate into the price hike.

Speculation here, I can see Steamroller improving greatly by as much as 15% to 30% over the Piledriver. Yes and that includes both Single & Multi-threading...

When is this Steam rolling out to clean the Pile of Bull crap?

 

[Irony]

Lol... sometime 2013 supposedly, probly gonna get pushed back like usual though

 

[Super XP]

When is this Steam rolling out to clean the Pile of Bull crap?

Bulldozer was not that bad which is why it sold very well and done anything you through at it. Now if its cost was expensive, different story. Its performance reflected the cost of the chip. Piledriver is miles better than Bulldozer regardless of benchmarks shown; it rocks very well in real world applications and games.

Steamroller is RUMOURED to have ironed out most issues with moderate improvements in many of the designs aspects. Combine all those moderate improvements and you have yourself a clock 4 clock performance boost by "A LOT".

Who is leading the charge in AMD? One of the best CPU Architect ever to grace this earth, Jim Keller that used to work for APPLE.
Who said he is the best CPU Architect? Apple, Intel, Nvidia, just to name a few. AMD’s CPU division is in good hands. As long as AMD’s CEO lets Jim do his job and grants him the resources to do it.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Yes agreed. Personally I have no issue what the bios post shows, so long as it runs 110% stable at 4.70GHz which it currently does.
I am curious how stable can you get your system if you do lower the vCore to 1.4v. Good Luck

Good point. though personally I don't see Steamroller if based on Socket AM3+ coming out with 10-Cores. And knowing companies in general, if AMD had a chance to price its CPU's higher than what they are today, they would, but the performance needs to translate into the price hike.

Speculation here, I can see Steamroller improving greatly by as much as 15% to 30% over the Piledriver. Yes and that includes both Single & Multi-threading...

Im still striving for 5ghz but I will try 1.4 and see how high I can get it ?, ive another realisation for you, despite setting core volts (1.35-1.5 free for cpu to use)the actual cores appear tied to the same vid 1.33 on mine , whilst core v is reported as one into the core at what i set and the only way ive found to adjust this is amd overdrive but ive had issues using Aod ie bsds.

Can't help thinking about sorting a proper Aod profile at 5ghz with the bios arranged to suit .

 

[suraswami]

Bulldozer was not that bad which is why it sold very well and done anything you through at it. Now if its cost was expensive, different story. Its performance reflected the cost of the chip. Piledriver is miles better than Bulldozer regardless of benchmarks shown; it rocks very well in real world applications and games.

Steamroller is RUMOURED to have ironed out most issues with moderate improvements in many of the designs aspects. Combine all those moderate improvements and you have yourself a clock 4 clock performance boost by "A LOT".

Who is leading the charge in AMD? One of the best CPU Architect ever to grace this earth, Jim Keller that used to work for APPLE.
Who said he is the best CPU Architect? Apple, Intel, Nvidia, just to name a few. AMD’s CPU division is in good hands. As long as AMD’s CEO lets Jim do his job and grants him the resources to do it.

First of all I posted it as a joke. I am also waiting for SteamRoller so I will finally get to upgrade. The one thing I wanted in SteamRoller is power efficiency, if it can cut about 50 to 75w under load then we have a winner. When AMD can make their GPUs more and more efficient in terms of power consumption they can do the same for CPU too.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-16.html

If the numbers come close to 275w under load I will be happy

Another thing is all the CPU design is in works for past few years, don't know if Jim can over night overhaul the whole architecture and spin out Steamroller in a much better 'HIS' way! May be next iteration might be better overall and the way it was meant to be.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

First of all I posted it as a joke. I am also waiting for SteamRoller so I will finally get to upgrade. The one thing I wanted in SteamRoller is power efficiency, if it can cut about 50 to 75w under load then we have a winner. When AMD can make their GPUs more and more efficient in terms of power consumption they can do the same for CPU too.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-16.html

If the numbers come close to 275w under load I will be happy

Another thing is all the CPU design is in works for past few years, don't know if Jim can over night overhaul the whole architecture and spin out Steamroller in a much better 'HIS' way! May be next iteration might be better overall and the way it was meant to be.

Nah itll be at least four years before its His creation , until then he will tweak what's in the pipeline but no more as they're on the right Modular path its not a scrap it and start again situation imho.