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Why this trash allowed in TPU? Both AMD and Intel subreddit banned this POS.

Yeah, it's trash, but so far the only piece of information about the CPU's performance comes from UB. So, it's better to compare both CPUs using the same trash benchmark rather than try to extrapolate it against something else.
 
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I'm wondering, is AMD raising their margins on the back of DIY builders, by forcing us to pay the premium for -X CPUs, because no other SKUs are available. And OEMs that will never pay that much (and will just sell more Intel otherwise) get the SKUs with better price/performance?
I suspect that's it. The fact that even the overpriced 5600X is still being scalped tells AMD that there's absolutely no benefit to introducing a cheaper part yet. OEMs on the other hand will aggressively negotiate pricing in multiples of 1000.
 
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Amd is already selling pretty much every 5600X that can be purchased online..... I doubt with how many people are paying nearly 400 usd for them amd feels any pressure to release a $220 sku that likely would just be scalped for $300+ anyway.

The 3600 ($220) and 3600X ($250) are selling very well as it is....

Yup i'm seeing the 5600X at $383 on newegg.com and microcenter has it for $369 and they don't seem to have any issues moving product at that price.
 
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Yup i'm seeing the 5600X at $383 on newegg.com and microcenter has it for $369 and they don't seem to have any issues moving product at that price.

Yeah, I find it amusing for about $80 more you can get a 5800X or for significantly cheaper you can get an 11400F and lose about 10% performance or for about the same a 10850k but people would rather spend $370+ for a 6 core cpu.... if the owners are happy more power to them I guess.

Anyways unless 5000 series stop selling not holding my breath these ever come out to the diy market.... We are more likely see Zen3+ instead.
 
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Yeah, I find it amusing for about $80 more you can get a 5800X or for significantly cheaper you can get an 11400F and loose about 10% performance or for about the same a 10850k but people would rather spend $370+ for a 6 core cpu.... if the owners are happy more power to them I guess.

Anyways unless 5000 series stop selling not holding my breath these ever come out to the diy market.... We are more likely see Zen3+ instead.

My gut tells me Zen 3+ will be on AM5 though i'm not certain we will see that on AM4. Zen 3+ on AM5 gives AMD time to test the chipsets and deal with any quirks before Zen 4.
 
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The 5900 is the CPU I wish I could get. 65W TDP (vs 105W), lower base clock (but I don't need 3.7 GHz base anyway), lower boost clock (but 4.7 GHz is plenty fast), and it's Zen 3 (which is all I ask for).
I hope some pop up on eBay.
 
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AMD did this with the Ryzen 9 3900 as well. Check out their prices on ebay!
 
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The 5900 is the CPU I wish I could get. 65W TDP (vs 105W), lower base clock (but I don't need 3.7 GHz base anyway), lower boost clock (but 4.7 GHz is plenty fast), and it's Zen 3 (which is all I ask for).
I hope some pop up on eBay.
If you're willing to pay for a 5900X you can run it at any TDP you choose using manual PBO settings; I run my 95W 3600XT at 75W because it needs to be inaudible.
 
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If you're willing to pay for a 5900X you can run it at any TDP you choose using manual PBO settings; I run my 95W 3600XT at 75W because it needs to be inaudible.
Ah, did not know that.
I might do that if I can't find a 5900.
 
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i wonder why they are not selling retail versions of 5900 and only selling the x versions.
There is nothing preventing retailers from buying a tray of these and selling them separately, in fact many retailers do just that. The reason why AMD don't make a retail version is they believe there isn't a retail market for these chips.

The purpose of these low-TDP high-core chips is achieving two things;
- Sell lower bins (to customers who don't know better), system integrators love these because they look great on paper with many cores and "high" clock speeds
- The low TDP allows for cheap poor cooling.
But most of you in here should know better. Low TDP on chips with more than 6 cores means it will throttle a lot, even with medium load on a few cores. The real world performance will vary a lot, and create a poor user experience, an experience similar to laptops.
So you shouldn't want these chips. You shouldn't be paying for 12 slow cores when you can get 8 fast cores cheaper. So if you want 5900, you should buy 5800X instead. If you want 5800, you should by 5600X. That will give a much more responsive system.
 
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If AMD not change this will lose me.
Despite the advantages in multi-threaded performance, I would choose Intel only to punish AMD, because they have changed their attitude towards ordinary consumers.
Being OEM sucks. I would prefer a 5800 over a 5800x.

As for pricing, most of it is probably out of AMD's hands. They are now a slave to 3rd party foundries, unlike Intel which has it's own foundries. Until constraints, scalpers, and other conditions end, who knows when, AMD's prices are likely to be above historical prices.
 
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There is nothing preventing retailers from buying a tray of these and selling them separately, in fact many retailers do just that. The reason why AMD don't make a retail version is they believe there isn't a retail market for these chips.

The purpose of these low-TDP high-core chips is achieving two things;
- Sell lower bins (to customers who don't know better), system integrators love these because they look great on paper with many cores and "high" clock speeds
- The low TDP allows for cheap poor cooling.
But most of you in here should know better. Low TDP on chips with more than 6 cores means it will throttle a lot, even with medium load on a few cores. The real world performance will vary a lot, and create a poor user experience, an experience similar to laptops.
So you shouldn't want these chips. You shouldn't be paying for 12 slow cores when you can get 8 fast cores cheaper. So if you want 5900, you should buy 5800X instead. If you want 5800, you should by 5600X. That will give a much more responsive system.
You might want to watch that video that I posted above.
 
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OEM is part of f'kin scalpers! Just shoot them don't buy! :D

tbh, it'd probably cost the same to buy one of these towers from an OEM and harvest the CPU, and possibly profit by parting out/reselling the rest.

Edit: already have an example on dell website.

Alienware R10 w/ 5800 & 3080 on sale for $2800

Street price for an o.o.b 3080 is $2100, street price for a 5900x is $900, already up $200 and still have an entire case of components left over.
 
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tbh, it'd probably cost the same to buy one of these towers from an OEM and harvest the CPU, and possibly profit by parting out/reselling the rest.

Edit: already have an example on dell website.

Alienware R10 w/ 5800 & 3080 on sale for $2800

Street price for an o.o.b 3080 is $2100, street price for a 5900x is $900, already up $200 and still have an entire case of components left over.

Yes but... time risk factor for scalpers. A lot can change in 6 weeks.

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Well AMD, I'll be ditching my planned 5600g HTPC upgrade for a 11400. In this era of no video cards, buying a Zen 3 processor without IGP is insane.

In addition, this processor finally fixes the caching issues that plagued previous Zen APUs (performance is within 98-99% of the big parts- at same clocks)
 
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Yeah, I find it amusing for about $80 more you can get a 5800X or for significantly cheaper you can get an 11400F and lose about 10% performance or for about the same a 10850k but people would rather spend $370+ for a 6 core cpu.... if the owners are happy more power to them I guess.

Anyways unless 5000 series stop selling not holding my breath these ever come out to the diy market.... We are more likely see Zen3+ instead.
the intel side aint cheaper when you need more expensive boards, cooling, and probably case cooling on top

5600x runs top tier on a wraith stealth in a beige box
 
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the intel side aint cheaper when you need more expensive boards, cooling, and probably case cooling on top

5600x runs top tier on a wraith stealth in a beige box

I'd run a cooler on either and I personally don't buy crap boards from either chip maker but both your points make sense.... People could get a 11400F/motherboard/cooler for the price of a 5600X in the states right now so I doubt that is a driving factor for them.
 
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Well AMD, I'll be ditching my planned 5600g HTPC upgrade for a 11400. In this era of no video cards, buying a Zen 3 processor without IGP is insane.

In addition, this processor finally fixes the caching issues that plagued previous Zen APUs (performance is within 98-99% of the big parts- at same clocks)
Why so... they've launched the APUs today as well, they're officially going retail at the end of the year, it's just TPU that couldn't be bothered :p

EDIT: spoke too soon
 
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I'd run a cooler on either and I personally don't buy crap boards from either chip maker but both your points make sense.... People could get a 11400F/motherboard/cooler for the price of a 5600X in the states right now so I doubt that is a driving factor for them.
You know, I checked this claim and it's not accurate here in Norway. You can't buy 11400F with a motherboard and a cooler for a lower price than a 5600x in Norway at least. (I picked the cheapest parts I could find).
On the other hand, people also have older Ryzens, why would they want to change the entire platform instead of slapping a CPU in the old system? (and a hell fast at that)
The 9th 10th gen Intel owners. Why would they change the entire platform for the new 11th gen CPU while it brings nothing spectacular? (Especially if you have 10900K or even 10700K)
the price of the 11400F (for instance) is for a reason. it's only for people who don't have a PC (or they have a crazy old one) and wanna build one now as cheap as possible so their kids can play minecraft or get grandparents to use skype to have a chat due to covid and that's basically it.
 
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You know, I checked this claim and it's not accurate here in Norway. You can't buy 11400F with a motherboard and a cooler for a lower price than a 5600x in Norway at least. (I picked the cheapest parts I could find).
On the other hand, people also have older Ryzens, why would they want to change the entire platform instead of slapping a CPU in the old system? (and a hell fast at that)
The 9th 10th gen Intel owners. Why would they change the entire platform for the new 11th gen CPU while it brings nothing spectacular? (Especially if you have 10900K or even 10700K)
the price of the 11400F (for instance) is for a reason. it's only for people who don't have a PC (or they have a crazy old one) and wanna build one now as cheap as possible so their kids can play minecraft or get grandparents to use skype to have a chat due to covid and that's basically it.

More talking about either first time builders or people with old phenom/FX/intel systems. Obviously people that have modern systems should upgrade in socket if they can and actually need it.
 
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More talking about either first time builders or people with old phenom/FX/intel systems. Obviously people that have modern systems should upgrade in socket if they can and actually need it.
you get the point don't you? Why would you move to 11th gen if you got a 10900K? (and for what price? )
There will be more talking about first time builders because it's a valid point. Just because the 11400F is cheap doesn't mean everyone should buy it. Since everyone will not buy it that is why it is cheaper. it's simple really. At least that's how I see it.
I've got a 2700X and surely 11400F would have been better for gaming. Either way I will not buy it since there's no point for me to do so. I'd go for 5600X if I were only to game on my PC and if I really needed to change the CPU for whatever reason, it would have been at least 5800x.
 
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you get the point don't you? Why would you move to 11th gen if you got a 10900K? (and for what price? )
There will be more talking about first time builders because it's a valid point. Just because the 11400F is cheap doesn't mean everyone should buy it. Since everyone will not buy it that is why it is cheaper. it's simple really. At least that's how I see it.
I've got a 2700X and surely 11400F would have been better for gaming. Either way I will not buy it since there's no point for me to do so. I'd go for 5600X if I were only to game on my PC and if I really needed to change the CPU for whatever reason, it would have been at least 5800x.

Same boat for me was waiting for 11900k but after reviews sorta wanted to grab a 10900k but already had a spare high end X570 board so figured I'd grab a 5800X....... Keep in mind I didn't even need it was just bored with my 9900k system.

But if the 11900k wasn't crap i wouldn't have any reservations buying the whole platform for 1200+ just for the cpu/mobo.

I personally like to keep and updated semi high end varient of both intel/ryzen but intel really dropped the ball...
 
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Same boat for me was waiting for 11900k but after reviews sorta wanted to grab a 10900k but already had a spare high end X570 board so figured I'd grab a 5800X....... Keep in mind I didn't even need it was just bored with my 9900k system.

But if the 11900k wasn't crap i wouldn't have any reservations buying the whole platform for 1200+ just for the cpu/mobo.

I personally like to keep and updated semi high end varient of both intel/ryzen but intel really dropped the ball...
I get it. If I were in your boots i would do the same thing and go with the 10900K instead.
I been thinking about getting my computer upgraded to a 5800x at least but maybe I will just wait a bit. I'm not in a hurry.
 

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It's an easy $50+++ markup for DIY experts like us, with 5 months of delay since the X series launch.

X (expensive) for exclusive pricing and limited stock ! :mad:
Shame for AMD that stock is the issue but here in Central Europe - eg. 5800X is available (in stock) for several months from January till today (I bought one)
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Buddy of mine bought 5900X in Slovakia where it was in stock for a month or so
 
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