AMD Phenom II 955 worth upgrading to?

trt740 · May 9, 2009

wiak said:
i got a Phenom 9850 BE, is the Phenom II 955 BE worth upgrading to?
i can get a 955 for around $340 here, i can get around $108 from my current 9850 BE but is the other $232 worth the upgrade?

my motherboard supports Phenom II 955

i mainly game but i also do some encoding of video/audio

or should i wait until the 955 drops in price?

yes

n-ster · May 9, 2009

cdawall said:
why do you keep posting this? noone cares it has nothing to do with any of the posts made nor does it have anything to do with the OP if you ahve nothing else to say that has anything to do with upgrading from a 9850 to a 955 stop posting in this thread.

Bokteelo said:
I don't get it... if you're an enthusiast and want to go AMD, you'll be paying 255 for the 955, and another 200 for the ASUS M4A79T Deluxe. Basically it totals to around 455, whereas for an i7, customers in the US can pick up an i7 for 245 at Microcenter tax included, and pay another 270-ish for a good X58 mobo. That totals to around 515.

PII 955 + ASUS M4A79T Deluxe = 455 (Estimate)
i7 920 + DFI LP UT X58-T3eH8 = 515 (Estimate)

Of course, you don't HAVE to get the M4A79T, there are cheaper boards out there, but I see that many people have bought the M4A79T so it's always been on my mind.

DaMulta said:
Looking at 3dmark Vantage, I'm scoring double what a i7 965, 1000USD Triple Channel Ram(lets just say 50USD), with 1 HD4890 would produce. (200USD)

1250USD

My system is a 955/790FX=420USD have DDR3 set at 1333 which would be 30USD for 2GB of ram, and 2 HD4890 cards. Granted I am OCed like most machines around these parts lol

850USD

My systems score
http://img.techpowerup.org/090508/x9575.jpg

Review I read with the score I'm talking about
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/944/vantage_results.jpg

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/944/14/

What I posted has something to do with this thread because people keep saying "OMFG 400$ less and I beat i7 by landslide" kinda stuff... btw most people who support i7 hate the i7 940/965/950/975 for price/performance...

I say PII 940 is a better upgrade the 955... you'll be spending 90$ for the 940 compared to 145$ for the 955...

farlex85 · May 9, 2009

Isn't really worth it atm considering you have to pay $60 USD over the 940 for 200mhz. If you want a pII get the 940 or wait for a price drop. Should be a decent performance increase, whether that's worth the extra $232 is purely up to you. It wouldn't be to me, but I'm not you.

cdawall · May 9, 2009

n-ster said:
What I posted has something to do with this thread because people keep saying "OMFG 400$ less and I beat i7 by landslide" kinda stuff... btw most people who support i7 hate the i7 940/965/950/975 for price/performance...

I say PII 940 is a better upgrade the 955... you'll be spending 90$ for the 940 compared to 145$ for the 955...

farlex85 said:
Isn't really worth it atm considering you have to pay $60 USD over the 940 for 200mhz. If you want a pII get the 940 or wait for a price drop. Should be a decent performance increase, whether that's worth the extra $232 is purely up to you. It wouldn't be to me, but I'm not you.

right now the 955 leaves room for future upgrades such as a AM3 mobo which is worth the money

n-ster · May 9, 2009

cdawall said:
right now the 955 leaves room for future upgrades such as a AM3 mobo which is worth the money

not performance wise... if you will want to buy a AM3 mobo later, it is because there is some Great CPU to upgrade to.. and in that case he is going to upgrade his RAM and mobo and CPU anyhow...

PII 955 isn't that much better than 940...

cdawall · May 9, 2009

n-ster said:
not performance wise... if you will want to buy a AM3 mobo later, it is because there is some Great CPU to upgrade to.. and in that case he is going to upgrade his RAM and mobo and CPU anyhow...

PII 955 isn't that much better than 940...

depends on how you look at it i got my 955 higher than most 940's will go on water you can get 4.2ghz out of a 955 on the 940 most i got was 3.9ghz.

n-ster · May 9, 2009

all chips differ... you can have an i7 that can only do 3.8 on 1.4V ... but you cant have one that does 4.6 on that same 1.4V... Same goes for PIIs (although not that much of a difference)

even if the 955 would have 300mhz more than a 940, is it worth the extra 60$?

btw, OP, where to you live? I'm guessing Europe... but the country and possibly the sites you buy from would be nice to do a fair comparison...

cdawall · May 9, 2009

n-ster said:
all chips differ... you can have an i7 that can only do 3.8 on 1.4V ... but you cant have one that does 4.6 on that same 1.4V... Same goes for PIIs (although not that much of a difference)

even if the 955 would have 300mhz more than a 940, is it worth the extra 60$?

btw, OP, where to you live? I'm guessing Europe... but the country and possibly the sites you buy from would be nice to do a fair comparison...

300mhz plus when the AM3 boards drop in price he can upgrade is worth $60 IMO

farlex85 · May 9, 2009

cdawall said:
300mhz plus when the AM3 boards drop in price he can upgrade is worth $60 IMO

AM3 isn't worth anything yet imo. 300mhz is worth about $15 give or take. But, if it's worth it to him, than it's worth it. Wouldn't be to me though.

ShadowFold · May 9, 2009

farlex85 said:
AM3 isn't worth anything yet imo. 300mhz is worth about $15 give or take. But, if it's worth it to him, than it's worth it. Wouldn't be to me though.

An AM3 CPU is very worth it over it's AM2+ counterparts. I bought a 720BE over a 940BE for DDR3 compatibility.. And oddly enough, I'm actually switching to DDR3 in a few days so I can get a sexy new FX-81 when they come out.

farlex85 · May 9, 2009

ShadowFold said:
An AM3 CPU is very worth it over it's AM2+ counterparts. I bought a 720BE over a 940BE for DDR3 compatibility.. And oddly enough, I'm actually switching to DDR3 in a few days so I can get a sexy new FX-81 when they come out.

DDR3 isn't worth much by itself. Very few systems (that is to say no systems) are held back by DDR2. Power savings are kind of nice, but that's about it. The 720BE is a great buy, but not b/c of ddr3, b/c of it's price point. It would be just as good of a chip w/ ddr2. Literally almost no difference.

n-ster · May 9, 2009

a 710/720BE IMO are the only AM3 CPU that are really worth it...

ShadowFold · May 9, 2009

n-ster said:
a 710/720BE IMO are the only AM3 CPU that are really worth it...

Because you're not an AMD enthusiast

n-ster · May 9, 2009

So in your opinion a PII 955 is worth it? considering the OP's situation?

ShadowFold · May 9, 2009

Yea. They OC higher(usually) and they work with DDR3, why not?

n-ster · May 9, 2009

money price/performance

cdawall · May 9, 2009

n-ster said:
money price/performance

and its not bad on that chip the 955 gives a huge upgrade path the 940 does not i factor that into performance

n-ster · May 9, 2009

cdawall said:
and its not bad on that chip the 955 gives a huge upgrade path the 940 does not i factor that into performance

Why upgrade if the performance gain is not really good? since when does the performance of 955 on AM3 is worth the upgrade compared to AM2+ 940?

the "upgrade path" is that you can get an AM3 board and DDR3 memory... but what good is that if the performance gain not good? it COULD be good with another AM3 CPU that will come out later, but then you'd have to change the CPU too and it wouldn't justify buying a 955...

Do you see what I mean?

cdawall · May 9, 2009

n-ster said:
Why upgrade if the performance gain is not really good? since when does the performance of 955 on AM3 is worth the upgrade compared to AM2+ 940?

the "upgrade path" is that you can get an AM3 board and DDR3 memory... but what good is that if the performance gain not good? it COULD be good with another AM3 CPU that will come out later, but then you'd have to change the CPU too and it wouldn't justify buying a 955...

Do you see what I mean?

what i see is a new 8 series chipset coming out that i doubt will have an AM2+ release meaning there very well could be a much better upgrade path with the 955

n-ster · May 9, 2009

cdawall said:
what i see is a new 8 series chipset coming out that i doubt will have an AM2+ release meaning there very well could be a much better upgrade path with the 955

Can a chipset possible upgrade be really worth that much $$? How much better can the OC be?

cdawall · May 9, 2009

n-ster said:
Can a chipset possible upgrade be really worth that much $$? How much better can the OC be?

alot better they are expecting at least 200mhz and the sb controller will be alot better

n-ster · May 10, 2009

I still think the 940 will be enough for him... IMO, his choice will depend of the price difference

wiak · May 10, 2009

back to my question is the 955 or 940 worth upgrading from 9850 BE? even when overclocked
i cant overclock my 9850 BE why? am noob and the chip dont like me its to hot even on 100mhz more than stock

chuck216 · May 10, 2009

wiak said:
back to my question is the 955 or 940 worth upgrading from 9850 BE? even when overclocked
i cant overclock my 9850 BE why? am noob and the chip dont like me its to hot even on 100mhz more than stock

Either of the Phenom IIs would be a good upgrade from the 9850, even at stock speeds they are quite a bit more powerful.

Now the decision on which one to get is up to you. While both might work with your current motherboard and memory, the 955 to use it's full potential really requires a motherboard capable of running DDR3 memory, and of course the memory itself. Not that it won't run with your current MB and memory, it will but is the extra cost worth the 200 mhz if you don't plan on upgrading the MB and memory in the near future? Besides with either chip being a Black Edition a quick overclock to a higher clock is just a multiplier change away.

farlex85 · May 10, 2009

wiak said:
back to my question is the 955 or 940 worth upgrading from 9850 BE? even when overclocked
i cant overclock my 9850 BE why? am noob and the chip dont like me its to hot even on 100mhz more than stock

Worth it is totally a call you're going to have to make. Check out reviews, look at graphs of what you're doing, and decide whether that's worth the money. Is it an upgrade? Sure. In many things the average person does though it's a small enough upgrade that I wouldn't even consider it w/ the amount of money you're talking about. But I'm more of a bang/buck kind of guy than a hardware junkie like most around here. So, is it worth it for you is a call only you can make.

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AMD Phenom II 955 worth upgrading to?

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