AMD Piledriver is called "FX NEXT"

[3volvedcombat]

Not close to being enough. Everyone waiting for this do yourself a favor and buy a 2500/2600K. It's a vastly superior chip. I bought a Bulldozer and I knew it stunk before I bought it. It's now going to sit in it's tin can until issues are worked out.

If Erocker said this was a bad chip.

Everybody else run away, of all people I trust his word the most. Been hear for years and always recognized his opinion's as simple, strait to the point, fact.

and its true,

I feel absolutely sorry for anybody that dished out 200$+ for the bulldozer (kia performance in disguise).

AND now there expecting people to dish out another 200$+ for a 10% increase? That's fuckin low.

I can increase bulldozer performance, by just setting the stock clock to 4.2Ghz and be done with it, I NEED TO GET A JOB AT AMD RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[erocker]

If Erocker said this was a bad chip.

Everybody else run away, of all people I trust his word the most. Been hear for years and always recognized his opinion's as simple, strait to the point, fact.

and its true,

I feel absolutely sorry for anybody that dished out 200$+ for the bulldozer (kia performance in disguise).

AND now there expecting people to dish out another 200$+ for a 10% increase? That's fuckin low.

I can increase bulldozer performance, by just setting the stock clock to 4.2Ghz and be done with it, I NEED TO GET A JOB AT AMD RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People are putting too little faith in reviews. All the numbers are there, it's quite easy to come to that conclusion whether you have the chip or not.

 

[cadaveca]

People are putting too little faith in reviews. All the numbers are there, it's quite easy to come to that conclusion whether you have the chip or not.

IF TPU had a review, there'd be no question. Fact of the matter is that most TPU'ers depend on TPU to set the facts straight, and currently, as a site, we cannot.

Don't blame the users..blame AMD. Hard to trust a site that said three days ago, Bulldozer was the next best thing, and then they turn it around, and say it isn't. Well, what about what they said a few days before?



Perfect example, two posts above..you are more reliable to 3volvedcombat than any of those reviews, even though you are not a reviewer. Plain and simple, many sites have lost TONNES of credibility because of this launch.

 

[erocker]

Perfect example, two posts above..you are more reliable to 3volvedcombat than any of those reviews, even though you are not a reviewer. Plain and simple, many sites have lost TONNES of credibility because of this launch.

Bah, I can't even get this thing to run for more than a half hour without BSOD'ing at stock. Probablly a bad Windows install or something... I stayed up way too late last night and right now I have no working computer at home. More work to do after work.

 

[cadaveca]

Right, and that's pretty disappointing. Hopefully it is just the OS install...would suck if you killed it in less than 12 hours.

Lots of issues with these chips it seems...hopefully Piledriver comes soon, and works far, far better.

 

[Baam]

So what is AMD calling Piledriver? FX-Next.

FX extreme.

 

[techtard]

They should call it RadeonFX. Then it would sell.

 

[Super XP]

FX extreme.

How about AMD FX2 just like they did with Phenom II

 

[seronx]

FX Nextreme!!!

Lol

IPC decreases

 

[techtard]

Hey seronx what happened to you? You were the most hardcore Bulldozer supporter, even going so far as to make up information about the chip. So weird to see people do stuff like this.

 

[seronx]

Hey seronx what happened to you? You were the most hardcore Bulldozer supporter, even going so far as to make up information about the chip. So weird to see people do stuff like this.

I didn't make up information I was using the paper specifications

 

[Steevo]

As I recall the only reason AMD even got ahead was Intel fell down. AMD has almost ALWAYS been behind Intel.

Athlons were slower per clock than PIII, its just they were cheaper and easy to overclock during the time Intel was dabbling with RAMBUS.

Intel decided that core clock was the way to go, and made a less efficient CPU, AMD really just updated their Athlon and a die shrink made it that much better. AMD has a piece of crap chip here, and will likely have another, 10% fewer watts than 223 is still 200, and most of that could be die shrink. Why do you all think the APU's are still on Phenom cores?

Speaking of that, APU, GPU and cheaper systems are the only way AMD is going to keep floating.

 

[seronx]

AMD had a 3 year lead with K8 but didn't do anything with it....

2003 - 2006

 

[Super XP]

As I recall the only reason AMD even got ahead was Intel fell down. AMD has almost ALWAYS been behind Intel.

Athlons were slower per clock than PIII, its just they were cheaper and easy to overclock during the time Intel was dabbling with RAMBUS.

Intel decided that core clock was the way to go, and made a less efficient CPU, AMD really just updated their Athlon and a die shrink made it that much better. AMD has a piece of crap chip here, and will likely have another, 10% fewer watts than 223 is still 200, and most of that could be die shrink. Why do you all think the APU's are still on Phenom cores?

Speaking of that, APU, GPU and cheaper systems are the only way AMD is going to keep floating.

Remember Where AMD innovates, Intel followed.
Remember it was AMD that released the Monster inside Intel. What AMD needs is IBM.

Bah, I can't even get this thing to run for more than a half hour without BSOD'ing at stock. Probablly a bad Windows install or something... I stayed up way too late last night and right now I have no working computer at home. More work to do after work.

My middle name is AMD
Perhaps you are having issues with the OS, though it sounds more like a memory problem. Nobody is posting Blue Screen of Deaths with Bulldozer. I really hope you get it resolved. Your opinion is like GOLD IMO.

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

dont waste your time waiting .. again

Expecting anything but failure from AMD is like expecting it not to rain in Seattle.

 

[DigitalUK]

IF TPU had a review, there'd be no question. Fact of the matter is that most TPU'ers depend on TPU to set the facts straight, and currently, as a site, we cannot.

Don't blame the users..blame AMD. Hard to trust a site that said three days ago, Bulldozer was the next best thing, and then they turn it around, and say it isn't. Well, what about what they said a few days before?



Perfect example, two posts above..you are more reliable to 3volvedcombat than any of those reviews, even though you are not a reviewer. Plain and simple, many sites have lost TONNES of credibility because of this launch.

im still waiting for a proper techpowerup review of bulldozer, clean cut from reviewers i trust.

 

[Super XP]

im still waiting for a proper techpowerup review of bulldozer, clean cut from reviewers i trust.

W1zzard's Reviews are 100% on target, straight and FAIR. If Bulldozer is not what was originally expected we will find out. If Bulldozer requires further tweaking? We will find out.

 

[phanbuey]

I mean i would agree with that ^ except for the fact that the reviews are so numerous and overwhelmingly sound in their conclusion...

its not really an "IF" at this point... but rather "to what extent".

 

[DigitalUK]

alot of these "Review sites" dont run proper unbias tests, some even copy and paste what they have seen on other sites, or re-write someone elses reviews to the point of a lie becomes mainstream truths and half truths. which is why techpowerup should have been given a retail chip before release for review. i have seen loads of reviews over the last few days eg.. some saying BD is great at encoding beating i7 another saying BD is not very good running the same benchmark.

 

[xenocide]

What AMD needs is IBM.

...

wat?

 

[15th Warlock]

What's the sense in prolonging the agony, just let it die already, no sense in beating a dead horse...

 

[techtard]

AMD had a 3 year lead with K8 but didn't do anything with it....

2003 - 2006

Actually AMD couldn't expand to capitalize on their advantage due to anticompetitive measures on Intel's part.
There was even a lawsuit.

 

[Super XP]

People are putting too little faith in reviews. All the numbers are there, it's quite easy to come to that conclusion whether you have the chip or not.

I find it interesting that the reviews of Oct 12, 2011 differ from other reviews which claim to have used Retail Copies Bulldozer chips. What I mean is the retail are performing better....

 

[xenocide]

I find it interesting that the reviews of Oct 12, 2011 differ from other reviews which claim to have used Retail Copies Bulldozer chips. What I mean is the retail are performing better....

There will always be variance, bias, etc. I saw a number of sites people were pointing to that used mismatched setups to compare SB to AMD's offerings. Such things as using slower SSD's, different motherboards for 2 SB setups, and any number of differences. The best bet is to consider them all. The bottom line becomes BD is at times on par for or better than SB, but in most situations SB is ahead.

 

[Super XP]

Now all AMD needs to do is release a revision with better performance all accross the board.