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AMD Plans Successors to Evergreen Series GPUs within 2010

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When they say Refresh i think same Cards just at 28nm. So i im thinking a 5890 at 28nm or a 5990 at 28nm with a higher bus width and faster clocks
 

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At this rate, we will be waiting for the 10xxx series in 2 years time.

Really, I think 5xxx is just optimised 4xxx with bells and whistles, and 6xxx is probably something new , that's why its is coming out so fast. I think AMD/ATI is doing a COD style production: two teams running so that one can improve the current lineup while the other gets ready the next gen.
 
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At this rate, we will be waiting for the 10xxx series in 2 years time.

Really, I think 5xxx is just optimised 4xxx with bells and whistles, and 6xxx is probably something new , that's why its is coming out so fast. I think AMD/ATI is doing a COD style production: two teams running so that one can improve the current lineup while the other gets ready the next gen.
i'd imagine 3 or 4 teams

2 primaries, 1 revision or 2 primaries 2 revisions.
 
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Ahahaha, this is starting to turn into Red vs. Green already.
 
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When they say Refresh i think same Cards just at 28nm. So i im thinking a 5890 at 28nm or a 5990 at 28nm with a higher bus width and faster clocks
yeah the refresh will be the higher clocks... but the successor is the 68xx series.

their whole design methodology centers around doubling up specs. So the design is probably ready to go, it probably cost nothing to develop, and as soon as they get to 28nm they will double up again.
 
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plan to wait till dec 31 2010 for a press release "we will have awesome fermi r900 parts out very soon", in feb 2011 you'll see the first articles talking about architecture but no product, in april the nda for press reviews will fall and in may you'll have decent supply of board in your stores
ATI is planning their paper launch on the same day Fermi is going to become available, Q3 2010. :laugh:


Do you sell your card after you are done with them? I know you must keep some cards for refresh tests, but do you ever sell any of them?


If not can we get a sexy hardware porno pic of all the cards?
 
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Ahahaha, this is starting to turn into Red vs. Green already.
At lease this time it is RED vs Green in a good way ;)
Technology keeps advancing is a good thing for us power hungry guys. :laugh:
 

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as much as i salivate over new technology, i have to wonder which,
if any of my old games will work with these new cards,
example my radeon 9700 could make aliens vs predator work
(albeit horrendously fast) but my new (agp) 3850 just doesn't want to know :cry:
i suppose only time will tell
Though it's off topic, with older games a good way to fix things running too fast is to set the affinity to one core. Sometimes games designed for a single core processor will work twice as fast using two cores.
 
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Hmmm Im still rolling with my three way 3870's...at first I thought I would wait for the 5800 series, but the second half of 2010 isnt that long off, becomes a game of patience.....and im torn...two 5850's next month, or two 6850's next 7 months...
Those 3870s are faster than my 8800GTX, which I still love very much. It's selling on thursday. :cry:

But I'ma grab a 5830/4890 so all's good. :laugh:

I prefer the generations where both companies release around the same time. =\

I think that's happened once in the past four generations lmao

X1800 was late, 2900XT was late, 3870 was a refresh like a year later, 4000... same time.? 5k early. lol
 
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What do ya know? I'm already obsolete the moment I buy a graphic card :)
 
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I could not buy a 5870 and you'll get more new video card..
:(
hehe
 
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Meh. All this could mean is a slight architecture tweak enabling more cores and faster shaders and maybe a die shrink. But seeing as how they just barely figured out how to reliably fab 45nm I doubt a die shrink is in the works. I don't see AMD rolling out a whole new architecture without the current one even having time to turn profit from all the R&D costs.
 
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Meh. All this could mean is a slight architecture tweak enabling more cores and faster shaders and maybe a die shrink. But seeing as how they just barely figured out how to reliably fab 45nm I doubt a die shrink is in the works. I don't see AMD rolling out a whole new architecture without the current one even having time to turn profit from all the R&D costs.
What are the R&D costs? They seem minimal.

Plus profit maximization (ahem g92) is not always the best long term strategy.
 
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28nm 6770 silent (passive) edition with eyefinity 2.0 incl. free game is what I'm waiting for ;)

WHILE I wait, I think the 5770 will just do nicely, thank you.
 

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anyone want to take a crack at the die size of a 28nm doubling of cypress? that would be a good refresh on the tick-tock cycle to get 28nm settled for some brand new architecture.

64 ROPS, 3200 shader units, and 512-bit GDDR5 sound good to me :)
 
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What are the R&D costs? They seem minimal.

Plus profit maximization (ahem g92) is not always the best long term strategy.
R&D costs would be minimal without the die shrink. But with it, it would cost a significant amount more.

Maximization is as you said not always the best strategy, but we don't even know what Nvidia is going to do. There not exactly trailing in the graphics market, well except for market share.

As I said before, this is going to be a tweak, not a die shrink IMO.
 
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damn this is quick, if i wait for next year what should i get ATI 7970
 

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