AMD R3 3300 6c/12t outperforming R7 2700X in Geekbench

[chaosmassive]

I see that nobody posted leak benchmark result from geekbench in TPU
if this highly doubtful $100 price tag is real, then this is insane, it might canibalizing own AMD current product stack and rendering entire Intel CPU line up obsolete
take this news with tons of salt

AMD Zen 2 6 Core CPU Benchmark Leaked, Faster Than Ryzen 7 2700X in Geekbench 4

Another day another Zen 2 Ryzen 3000 series CPU leak and to call this one a shocker would be an understatement! So let's get straight into it! A peculiar CPU entry has been spotted in the wild, specifically in Geekbench's database. The entry carries the same string we've seen on all other...

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[Deleted member 178884]

>Geekbench
I'd say you'd need a truck of salt for this one.

 

[chaosmassive]

>Geekbench
I'd say you'd need a truck of salt for this one.

although it's only geekbench, its more than enough to gives us glimpse of what Ryzen 3k series capable of.
computex is less than 24 hours, everything (?) will be revealed soon enough

 

[TheMadDutchDude]

The keynote speech is tomorrow... sit tight.

 

[Vya Domus]

Geekbench is garbage. I can only hope people will ever stop using it or care about it.

 

[R0H1T]

if this highly doubtful $100 price tag is real

Sounds BS, I expect at least $150~200 price at launch. What do you think will happen to current 2600/x stock if a chip at half TDP & more IPC+OC(?) headroom launches at half the price

 

[dirtyferret]

Same crap they posted about the ryzen 2 series, until real reviews showed a 2-3% ipc gain

 

[chaosmassive]

Same crap they posted about the ryzen 2 series, until real reviews showed a 2-3% ipc gain

well, this time Lisa showcase the silicon redesign AND manufactured in 7nm in CES,
unlike Ryzen 2000 which is clearly stated as 12 nm refresh with no changes in uarch

 

[Final_Fighter]

the same system also posted a result on userbenchmark with the 12core chip. there are 2 tests of the 12 core parts now and one benchmark is with 1333mhz single channel and one is with 1600mhz duel channel ram. intersting to see the latency on these by just running duel channel and an extra 300mhz. latency looks like it should be in the sub 50s with the new parts when running at ram speeds of 3200 or more.

AMD Myrtle Performance Results - UserBenchmark

www.userbenchmark.com

AMD Qogir Performance Results - UserBenchmark

www.userbenchmark.com

 

[TheLostSwede]

The keynote speech is tomorrow... sit tight.

So Intel decided it had to pre-empt things...

Intel Announces 8 Core i9-9900KS: Every Core at 5.0 GHz, All The Time

www.anandtech.com

 

[Vya Domus]

So Intel decided it had to pre-empt things...

That's pretty desperate, rest in peace TDP and AVX frequency. Thing is if AMD closes in on single core frequency this is mostly a wasted effort, that is the last bastion Intel has and that people care about.

 

[chaosmassive]

So Intel decided it had to pre-empt things...

Intel Announces 8 Core i9-9900KS: Every Core at 5.0 GHz, All The Time

www.anandtech.com

LMAO, intel is desperate right now

 

[ruff0r]

@chaosmassive Sorry to burst your bubble and everyone else´s , why would AMD release a chip that cost a THIRD the price of the top tier chip right now and OUT PERFORM it?
If we take this from a realistic side Approach , 3-5%+ IPC top tier chips with boost will hit around 4,8ish 4,4 all cores. Price wise the 16c will be above 300$ easily the 12c will be around the 250-300$ maybe more to not make the 2700x irrelevant. You wouldn´t place or price a new product in a way that makes every other product from you irrelevant to potential buyers .

 

[chaosmassive]

@chaosmassive Sorry to burst your bubble and everyone else´s , why would AMD release a chip that cost a THIRD the price of the top tier chip right now and OUT PERFORM it?
If we take this from a realistic side Approach , 3-5%+ IPC top tier chips with boost will hit around 4,8ish 4,4 all cores. Price wise the 16c will be above 300$ easily the 12c will be around the 250-300$ maybe more to not make the 2700x irrelevant. You wouldn´t place or price a new product in a way that makes every other product from you irrelevant to potential buyers .

as I said,

highly doubtful $100

 

[SL2]

Look at the history, what can we expect? The 2600X beats the 1700X in Geekbench, that's a fact.

The 2600X dominates 18 benchmarks in TPU's review, while the 1700X wins 9, they tied in one benchmark. (Game summary for each resolution counted as one benchmark.)

Does anyone expect Matisse to bring LESS improvement than Pinnacle Ridge did?

I don't see the controversy here.

 

[Vya Domus]

The controversy comes from the fact that Geekbench shows scaling that has nothing to do with reality.

6c/12t slightly outperforming 8c/16t with just a 200mhz bump ? How the hell does that work ?

 

[SL2]

6c/12t slightly outperforming 8c/16t with just a 200mhz bump ? How the hell does that work ?

Because it's not the same CPU? Have you read any of the 2600X reviews?

 

[R0H1T]

The controversy comes from the fact that Geekbench shows scaling that has nothing to do with reality.

That's not true, Geekbench is fairly accurate & consistent across a variety of devices.

6c/12t slightly outperforming 8c/16t with just a 200mhz bump ? How the hell does that work ?

First of all Geekbench doesn't report clock speeds accurately, secondly SMT ~ remember how that works better on Zen than Core? With Zen 2 it'll be even better than before, then there's AVX2 as well.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

@chaosmassive Sorry to burst your bubble and everyone else´s , why would AMD release a chip that cost a THIRD the price of the top tier chip right now and OUT PERFORM it?
If we take this from a realistic side Approach , 3-5%+ IPC top tier chips with boost will hit around 4,8ish 4,4 all cores. Price wise the 16c will be above 300$ easily the 12c will be around the 250-300$ maybe more to not make the 2700x irrelevant. You wouldn´t place or price a new product in a way that makes every other product from you irrelevant to potential buyers .

Lisa su has been quoted as saying they are bringing a doubling in performance, most likely via more cores.

They can't do that and not decimate their own prior cpu's anymore then zen did FX?.

@INTEL release those TDP figures for your 5Ghz all core chip, but well done on the PR front

 

[Vya Domus]

First of all geekbench doesn't report clocks speeds accurately, secondly SMT remember how that works better on Zen than Core?

What ? Look at the comparison made above , it's about the 2600X vs 1700X. The difference in base clock between the two is of 200 mhz. The scaling is fucked up no matter how you look at it.

That's not true, geekbench is fairly accurate & consistent across a variety of devices.

"That's not true" doesn't make of a very good argument.

Check out how Samsung's Exynos chips always crush in Geekbench by a landslide but are outperformed in almost all other tests by similar chipsets. How do you explain that ?

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12520/the-galaxy-s9-review

The Samsung Galaxy S10+ Snapdragon & Exynos Review: Almost Perfect, Yet So Flawed

www.anandtech.com

Also , Apple's chips have better single core results compared to most current gen desktop chips from AMD and Intel, with one tenth or less of the power. Yeah, very accurate and consistent.

 

[dirtyferret]

well, this time Lisa showcase the silicon redesign AND manufactured in 7nm in CES,
unlike Ryzen 2000 which is clearly stated as 12 nm refresh with no changes in uarch

Fantastic, my point is not that the cpu will bomb but rather lets hold off on the parade until legit independent reviews come in.

 

[SL2]

What ? Look at the comparison made above , it's about the 2600X vs 1700X. The difference in base clock between the two is of 200 mhz. The scaling is fucked up no matter how you look at it.

NO, it's not only about frequency, the CPU's are from two different generations! The 2600X wins 18 out of 28 benchmarks, and ties in one, did you miss that???

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz Review

Priced at an affordable $230, AMD's Ryzen 5 2600X is targeted at a larger market than the Ryzen 7 2700X. The processor still comes with 6 cores and 12 threads, matching the best Intel has to offer. In our testing, we see the new processor neck-to-neck with the Ryzen 7 1700X and beating the Intel...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I'm downloading now , be interested to have a 6 core comparison locked to 4Ghz on a 2600

 

[Vya Domus]

NO, the CPU's are from two different generations! The 2600X wins 18 out of 28 benchmarks, and ties in one, did you miss that???

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz Review

Priced at an affordable $230, AMD's Ryzen 5 2600X is targeted at a larger market than the Ryzen 7 2700X. The processor still comes with 6 cores and 12 threads, matching the best Intel has to offer. In our testing, we see the new processor neck-to-neck with the Ryzen 7 1700X and beating the Intel...

www.techpowerup.com

Do you people just don't read what I am writing or are willingly oblivious ?

I was exclusively talking about the results that you posted in Geekbench for 2600X vs 1700X to make my point on why this benchmark is hot garbage.

 

[SL2]

Do you people just don't read what I am writing or are willingly oblivious ?

I was exclusively talking about the results that you posted for Geekbench for 2600X vs 1700X to make my point on why this benchmark is hot garbage.

Yes, and I wanted to show you that Geekbench is in line with TPU's review, posted at the same time.

It seems like it's only 1700X owners that won't believe this review.