AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series

[erocker]

bit harsh on a thread aimed at amd likers. and yeh i am one i like intel and nvidia too tho

probably true though them slides ,as they make sense relative to AMDs present tech and past steps still its all hyperbole anyway like this whole thread but peeps like to speculate.

I'm not being harsh. There was a post that was stated like fact, not speculation. When that happens and it is just speculation it's known as BS.

If we want to speculate:

(I'll take a sensible and realistic approach)

7970 = 2 x 6870's in CrossFire. It's possible it could do better than a 6990, but with companies wanting to make more profit, they will of course milk performance a bit, especially when the competition is late with its product. Once again, AMD will set the bar with a single GPU product and its competition will come along and beat it by 10 - 15% or so. This seems to be the strategy of both GPU makers.

 

[Crap Daddy]

actually I get the feeling the highend isn't even on there. There is no 7800 or 7900 series listed. Must be a 7600XTX uberclocked midrange or something.


I should totally bring out my old 7500 so i can be leet and have a radeon 7000 series card before launch. lol

High end will be extinct or only for the wallet of Richard Branson in the near future if the game industry is heading where is heading. That is... nowhere or maybe more "angry birds" hitting an app store near you.

 

[erocker]

An interesting article: http://www.dailytech.com/Nextgeneration+28nm+GPUs+Could+Be+45+Percent+Faster/article23158.htm

States it could be 45% faster, yet also mentions there could be performance hinderences.
New archetecture uses system RAM. I wonder how that will work out?
They give a date of December 6th, though I'm assuming it will be for a lower end card.
The newer high end cards are a little concerning with a completely new archetecture. AMD doesn't have the best track record of late with new designs. (Phenom I, BD, cough cough) On the GPU side there was x1800, HD 2XXX series that started off rough.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

7970 = 2 x 6870's in CrossFire. It's possible it could do better than a 6990, but with companies wanting to make more profit, they will of course milk performance a bit, especially when the competition is late with its product. Once again, AMD will set the bar with a single GPU product and its competition will come along and beat it by 10 - 15% or so. This seems to be the strategy of both GPU makers.

you maybe right about performance i hope not though, although to be honest i do also buy on compute power these days plus gameing and cost etc as for both cos strategy, your right but then could still be right if both companies next gen were 20-30% better then you expect too , its just wishfull thinking i dont Know this to be true i am a day/night dreamer

The newer high end cards are a little concerning with a completely new archetecture. AMD doesn't have the best track record of late with new designs. (Phenom I, BD, cough cough) On the GPU side there was x1800, HD 2XXX series that started off rough.

yeh thats the reason i got the 5850 to hold out for 8xxx in a year or so but ill still read the reviews might even get carried away ya know

 

[yogurt_21]

An interesting article: http://www.dailytech.com/Nextgeneration+28nm+GPUs+Could+Be+45+Percent+Faster/article23158.htm

States it could be 45% faster, yet also mentions there could be performance hinderences.
New archetecture uses system RAM. I wonder how that will work out?
They give a date of December 6th, though I'm assuming it will be for a lower end card.
The newer high end cards are a little concerning with a completely new archetecture. AMD doesn't have the best track record of late with new designs. (Phenom I, BD, cough cough) On the GPU side there was x1800, HD 2XXX series that started off rough.

only because the X1800XL launched first and it took 3 months for the X1800XT to launch. The X1800XT was faster than the 7800GTX 256MB by a decent enough margin to be considered a success. Nvidia's 512MB 7800GTX was a limited edition card of less than 500 units and was easily countered by the Sapphire XTPE bios update to the X1800XT.

the biggest issue with the X1800XT was over top launches as the X1900XT was faster and launched 3 months after the X1800XT.

at any rate that was more of a release bumble than a technology one. The 2900XT on the other hand was both in one. While it sailed when overclocked it just couldn't compete at stock with the 8800's and even when overclocked it couldn't touch an overclocked 8800GTX much less ultra. (easily bested the GTS's when both were overclocked though).

Still though that was years ago, and in both times ATI's financial situation put major stress on developer which likely caused the issues. Now that they're part of AMD and their gpu division is doing great I don't think another new-tech bungle will happen.

 

[mastrdrver]

Neither. Christmas is a time that I spend with family, not spend sitting around lusting after stuff.


That said, the Christmas hype is generally well founded. You might get disappointed because of a crappy gift, but that's nothing to waiting two years with some vague sense of what might be. Two years builds a heck of a lot of expectations, which usually can't be lived up to. I prefer something that comes out of no where, performs as it does, and needn't deal with anticipation.

It was just used to point out why everyone loves to speculate about new hardware. I'm not saying that those are the only two categories that everyone falls in to (as that was not the point). I was just trying to use a common example that even yourself agrees with in trying to make a point about the speculation part.

Nothing more.

FWIW, I agree with you. I'd rather spend time with family then anything else for Christmas.

 

[Neuromancer]

I should totally bring out my old 7500 so i can be leet and have a radeon 7000 series card before launch. lol

heh heh yeah I thought of that too...

Cept the new cards are call HD7xxx series.

Kinda liek Intel did with their IGPs, instead of moving up into CPU range numbers they just reissued GMA 2000 3000 with HD in front of it.

 

[mediasorcerer]

I have noticed in australia the price of 6990,s have dropped by around 100$ to 150$ dollars in the last few weeks, that to me may be an indication of a stock clearance move for the new series[hopefully]?.

 

[n-ster]

The cards that will compete against the 6990 are not going to be released this soon, I believe they will gradually go higher

 

[phanbuey]

I think that the next 7970 will be able to put up single GPU numbers within 10-20% of the 6990 - with overclocking and the fact that it is a single GPU - it would make it competitive with the 6990.

The last generation was a bit of an experiment and did not see the same gains that 3->4 or 4->5 saw.

 

[repman244]

Seems like AMD is butchering the GPU team aswell: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5050/...-workforce-reduction-carrell-killebrew-is-out

I really hope this doesn't have a big impact on future products (HD7xxx).

 

[SK-1]

Are they going for better AA?

 

[Recus]

Radeon HD 7000 uses GDDR 5

AMD to Mix GCN with VLIW4 & VLIW5 Architectures

This video has been removed because it is too long

 

[_JP_]

*follows 1st link*
*it's from fudzilla*

 

[nt300]

The fundamental unit of AMD’s previous designs has been the Streaming Processor, utilizing a Very Long Instruction Word (VLIW) architecture designed to take advantage of Instruction Level Parallelism (ILP). That will be supplanted by the Compute Unit, comprised of multiple 16-wide vector Single Instruction, Multiple Data (SIMD) units designed for Thread Level Parallelism (TLP).

Now this quote is interesting. I can easily see this being done for one reason among a few others, it called the upcoming XBOX 720 and the Playstation 4. AMD scored design wins for the next generation of console gaming. Not sure about the Wii U though.

Also if performance is that good with the HD 7970 and the rumour says one HD 7970 will be a lot faster than two of HD 6970 in a Crossfire setup, then WOW should be good for a nice upgrade.

 

[alexsubri]

Since there is no XDR2, I wonder if the high end 7xxx will feature 512-Bit instead of 256-Bit.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the mobile versions of 7xxx coming out first, and then the desktop gpus in Q1 2012?

 

[Recus]

*follows 1st link*
*it's from fudzilla*
http://cdn-images.hollywood.com/cms/300x375/7236163.jpg

?

Since there is no XDR2, I wonder if the high end 7xxx will feature 512-Bit instead of 256-Bit.

HD 7970 384-bit
HD 7950 384-bit/256-bit
http://guru3d.com/news/amd-radeon-hd-7950-and-hd-7970-gpus-details/

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the mobile versions of 7xxx coming out first, and then the desktop gpus in Q1 2012?

 

[KainXS]

I will wait for more reliable sources because 60 rops on GDDR5 on a 384bit bus = no
unless amd is doing something different then the standard thats BS

 

[cadaveca]

Again, KainXS, it's 256-bit, plus 128-bit for IOMMU = 384-bit. At least this is what I understand after Eric Demer's Fusion summit speach.