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AMD Radeon HD 7990 Launch Date Revealed

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Meh...a minor, but important reason that I shelled out for a 7970 when it was brand new is future-proofing. I'm skipping this generation...and the next three! :toast:
Three might be optimistic dude, I am supposed to be waiting on the next generation but these damn game promos and also the 2-3gb memory upgrade(over my 1gb gfx's) have me twitching.

Ahh I hear the urge to upgrade screaming at me now.........no.. can't. .
 
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#52
Is the NDA up yet................? Awful hard to judge availability when the NDA isnt up... :toast:
Yeah, just wondering if AMD will actually have hardware on hand when the release date comes. It's been so long since they've demoed a potential product (didn't they demo something last year?) and then release it.

Regardless, release of this should hopefully bring pricing on the GTX690 down in line.
 
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The card looks sick, but that cooler is WOW :eek: HUGE.
Three might be optimistic dude, I am supposed to be waiting on the next generation but these damn game promos and also the 2-3gb memory upgrade(over my 1gb gfx's) have me twitching.

Ahh I hear the urge to upgrade screaming at me now.........no.. can't. .
Me too, I've already decided to skip the HD 7000 generation in favour for the next.
 
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Added the top...





I hope the price around $700 not around $1000, except AMD had talked to nVidia about the price :)
 
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I'm thinking $899 will be the price.
 
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Even if its at same price point. Its a much better buy then the other two.

It will just come down to personel preference.
 
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I'm thinking $899 will be the price.
Yup, so maybe the price range 800-900 more suitable...

still wait about how much this card will eat the power, if keep low and stay behind 2 x 7970 maybe for $800 this best bunch for money.
 

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This:



Nice...but even my XFX black 7970 is more than plenty for my single 23" monitor....and will be...for a while. Maybe when I get home from Tokyo next year, I'll get a 32" screen...and another 7970...they should be nice and cheap by then ($300?)...this 7990 is...impressive, but excessive, at least for my needs.
 
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32" monitors are still 1080/1200 res... Its the 27-30" that 2560x1440/1600. Inches don't matter, its the resolution. ;)
 

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ah, you know what I mean...the 2560x resolution monitors...that would prolly justify a second 7970.
 
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Perhaps. I ran bf3 cranked with one....(25x1440).
 

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.....and BF4? It'll be out by then...anyway, off to run BF3 cranked on my 1920x1080 75hz 23" monitor :D
 
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I hope they have working crossfire drivers by then. If not, there will be a lot of complaints. :)
Wizzard won't use them though. He likes to use outdated WHQL drivers in his reviews. You know since no one that uses a bleeding edge $1000 video card would ever try something labeled a beta. :rolleyes:
 
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Wizzard won't use them though. He likes to use outdated WHQL drivers in his reviews. You know since no one that uses a bleeding edge $1000 video card would ever try something labeled a beta. :rolleyes:
I think that IF AMD releases a driver for this card, Wizzard will use that driver for his review. And if that happens, I'm guessing we won't be seeing a lot of cards on the review, maybe 670/680/690/Titan/7950/7970/7990. Well no one knows what the great Wizz will do. Maybe only him and some other staff members here at TPU. Let's just wait and hope that this card performs much more than we expect so we can see some price wars. :)
 
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Hes been using outdated drivers in all of his crossfire comparisons for months. Why stop now?
 
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Hes been using outdated drivers in all of his crossfire comparisons for months. Why stop now?
Let's just wait for his review. It's no use speculating what wiz will or will not do. :)

On topic, I hope that April 24 launch date is true. :)
 
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ah, you know what I mean...the 2560x resolution monitors...that would prolly justify a second 7970.
Til AMD fix's issues with their cards which could be a while goin CF seems like a waste of $.

Wizzard won't use them though. He likes to use outdated WHQL drivers in his reviews. You know since no one that uses a bleeding edge $1000 video card would ever try something labeled a beta. :rolleyes:
How many end users even are on lastest WHQL drivers or even last version? Not everyone updates drivers upon new rls. When it works fine, a good % tend to just not mess with it. Also when people complain about a reviewer using old drivers for reviews and benchmarking. When they start a massive comparison they keep to same driver version else it could contaminate test results.

This:

http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Radeon-HD-7990-Battlefield-4.png

Nice...but even my XFX black 7970 is more than plenty for my single 23" monitor....and will be...for a while. Maybe when I get home from Tokyo next year, I'll get a 32" screen...and another 7970...they should be nice and cheap by then ($300?)...this 7990 is...impressive, but excessive, at least for my needs.
Truthfully with all the news surrounding AMD and runt frame issue, i wouldn't take those FPS numbers at face value on the 7990. Going by the trends AMD real fps number is ~50-55% or around what a single 7970 card can do. As for the 3DMark stuff, those are synthetic benchmarks and have very little impact on real world usage.
 
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Til both AMD & Nvidia fix's synchronizing issues with their Multi-cards which could be a while goin multi-gpu seems like a waste of $.
Fixed.

How many end users even are on lastest WHQL drivers or even last version? Not everyone updates drivers upon new rls. When it works fine, a good % tend to just not mess with it. Also when people complain about a reviewer using old drivers for reviews and benchmarking. When they start a massive comparison they keep to same driver version else it could contaminate test results.
I think he was pointing out the obvious. New cards get released with new drivers and that driver isnt used on the rest of the line-up.

The driver is there and available but is only used for 1 product not line-up. So if you speak of contaminating test results its already apparent and the reason why W1zzard includes this in every review.

Benchmark scores in other reviews are only comparable when this exact same configuration is used.
Truthfully with all the news surrounding AMD and runt frame issue, i wouldn't take those FPS numbers at face value on the 7990. Going by the trends AMD real fps number is ~50-55% or around what a single 7970 card can do. As for the 3DMark stuff, those are synthetic benchmarks and have very little impact on real world usage.
Yet, PcPer include Observed FPS. He needed to measure something that wasnt appearent to everyone.

Just look at his latest podcast on it and even his own team couldnt really tell real-time variances.

A better way to measure would be tolerable variance. It be a dynamic measure but would be more reflective of what a user would actually experince.
 
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I'm thinking $899 will be the price.
god lets hope so, get Nvidia to drop pricing on the 690 and Titan!

Blah blah blah...

A quick Patent search will bring up any number of patents that support what I've posted. That's all. The rest is just conjecture. ;) I really don't care about what NVidia is doing, nor is it on topic.


I just want properly working Crossfire and Eyefinity. Taking pictures right now of my cards to list so I can buy a 7990. Need a 7950?:roll:
No Titan or 690 for you Dave?
 

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No Titan or 690 for you Dave?
If there isn't a driver to fix my issues, yes, NVidia would be what I go for, but I'd rather not, honestly. I dunno why I have so much patience with AMD and drivers...but I do have 3 7950's, and a 7970, and will lose a significant amount of money selling them. I'm actually considering suing AMD for failing to deliver what's advertised on the box. I think I have enough proof that Crossfire has NEVER worked, and that AMD has been pulling the wool over everyone's eyes about Crossfire for years.



The only thing that has kept this whole thing "hidden" before is that the performance offered by a single card was too small for this issues to be truly noticed by as many users as it does now. As you know, everyone we talk to on TS and other places all says that they have the same stuff on Crossfire now, except maybe one or two users, and that before a couple of months ago, those numbers were exactly opposite. I really believe that most users don't understand this problem fully, since I still see some users on other forums saying that there is no problem, and V-sync fixes it, when, on my systems, clearly it doesn't.


I managed to customize a driver and lessen the stutter, and I've posted screenshots of the results here on TPU some time ago, so I know that a fix is possible, but from what I see, performance is going to suffer by about 30%. That would make AMD lose the performance crown, so I am a bit loathe to just blindly move over multiple NVidia cards, and potentially have other issue. At least I know and understand the problems now, and can deal with it. I took my pictures, and I'm ready to sell my cards. I will give AMD one single driver release after 7990 launch, then I will attempt to return my cards to the retailer, since they don't work as advertised. IF the retailer doesn't cooperate, I'll be seeing AMD in court, and AMD will be buying me new cards, and anyone else who bought multiple AMD VGAs. I have already spoken to a class-action lawyer who is very keen on pursuing this one, but we need a true monetary loss, and no ability to rectify the problem. AMD hasn't given a public statement about this, so I have made arrangements to get one of these FACT systems to use in court to prove the problem, which was actually easier that I thought it was. Who would have thought other companies would like to see the demise of AMD? :laugh:
 
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Lol, good luck with sueing amd Dave. This thing is juuuuuuust about to come full circle and those that made a big deal of it are going to be left standing with their pud in their hand. Going all litigious on them isn't the smartest thing I have heard anyone say.
 

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Lol, good luck with sueing amd Dave. This thing is juuuuuuust about to come full circle and those that made a big deal of it are going to be left standing with their pud in their hand. Going all litigious on them isn't the smartest thing I have heard anyone say.
I'm in Canada, not the US, and consumer protection laws are different here. IF a feature advertised on the box doesn't work as advertized, the company has commited fraud, period. They can have a disclaimer on the box to cover them, but such is not the case with the cards I bought. We can't sue for anything here in Canada...there has to be a clear law broken, and consumers have very exact rights on situations like this. There also has to be a real loss, and my lawyer seems to think he can show that. You may thin kit's not smart, but I like to fight for what I believe in.


I've had AMD call me at home over issues with product packaging like this before. It's not really as big of a deal as you make it out to be, and it forces AMD to handle the problem appropriately. AMD is taking this issue rather seriously, from my communications with them as an end user. I had boxes changed over UVD2 claims on the box, in the past.