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9.75 TFLOPS right between Vega 56 and the 590.
Hope this is a $279 part.
Acceptable for $299.
but really priced at 499 because good guy amd is just as scummy as everyone else
 
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Place this in the context of every leaked slide being 'news' and the wild claims weve heard over the past years about Navi. The hype has already cooled down a bit, but still people are living on hopes and dreams it will make waves somehow.
Maybe I've lived under a rock for these past years but which wild claims are we talking about ?

Commercially it makes sense they dont say its the same shit shrunk a bit;
No, it makes sense to say that because it isn't the same shit shrunken down.
 
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Just be cheap so we can all move up so games can move up as well
 
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but really priced at 499 because good guy amd is just as scummy as everyone else
Why does it matter for AMD what you think anyway? If they price it cheap nVidia will just lower the price by a few cents and you be all over it anyway.
"Cheaper and about as good" has proven to be completely useless for market share in the GPU market.
They might as well get more for what ever little number of cards they sell.
The market has decided that we are willing to pay for more expensive GPUs.
 
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A blower GPU? really? i thought AMD already learned from old mistakes.
I hope they at least allow non-reference designs right out of gate, then all is not lost.
 
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We'll, figure these 10 are some of the best results against the reference RTX 2070 probably not a Founders Edition. Still about where I was considering. Sparing or nipping at the heels of a 2070. Now it depends on MSRP, and actual power usage but on that front I might think they pushed the clocks/power to get it here. That said I think two eight pin is more than actually required.
 
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Those who thought it would be much cheaper than nv clearly didn't learn jack from the Ryzen 3000 launch.
 
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damn that's good for a 2560 shader gpu.nvidia need that "super 2070" to beat it.
 
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OK but this GPU has odd power because of the fact that RX 5700 XT is almost same with Radeon VII in BF5.
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If it gets 122 FPS, it will be awesome.

Well, now we could see other benchmarks.

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RX 5700 XT gets 53 FPS and same with GTX 1080 Ti. I only say that It is impressive.

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Okay but i don't want it is same with R7. AMD why released R7 for $699?

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All right, Why is RX 5700 XT worse than RTX 2070 in SoTR?

I wonder 1080p benchmarks. Is it better or worser than RTX 2070?
 
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This is a $499 card.
I'd love if AMD would not drop the price, and just have faster, similarly priced card.

Smells like another GTX 1080 equivalent
Because at times, when needed, 2070 ain't faster than 1080, but is "basically equivalent".
Makes perfect sense.

If it gets 122 FPS, it will be awesome.
It is notable, that significant lead comes in RTX enabled games.
So, either playing dirty and having RTX on, or, uh, heavily denoised crappy ray tracing also from AMD.

We'll, figure these 10 are some of the best results against the reference RTX 2070
AC:O in particular, in which 1070Ti stops on V64, yeah, absolutely the best case for sure.
 
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I hope this is true,if so this is big,big news.In Odyssey 2080 was 12% faster than VII,but 5700 can match or beat 2070.This is a much needed architectural progress if 2560sp 5700 can match 3840sp RVII on the same node.Just proves RVII is an overpriced turd.2070 could already come close at $500,5700 is gonna match it at $500,"2070 super" will beat it.
 
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@medi01 This price is good for RX 5700 XT but if RX 5700 Pro is $400, it will be pointless. I expect RX 5700 XT supports RT such as GTX 10 series. If RX 5700 XT is 450 or less price, it will be ''Super''.
We will see Nvidia VS AMD and in 2020 we will see Intel VS AMD VS Nvidia.
 
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Maybe I've lived under a rock for these past years but which wild claims are we talking about ?



No, it makes sense to say that because it isn't the same shit shrunken down.
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Leapfrogging right back into 2-3 year old performance. Navi has been pushed back so far that it is now upper midrange. And that is even with a competitor slowing down, because Turing really is Nvidia doing a very weak generational perf boost. Radeon VII was a letdown for showing us what 7nm could do - and Navi 10 is hardly breaking that trend. So we are left waiting for a Navi 20 that will again be behind the curve.
 
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@medi01 This price is good for RX 5700 XT but if RX 5700 Pro is $400, it will be pointless

5700 non-pro vs 2060



AC:O (yes, a greencampfuckamd optimized game, but 5070 XT beat 2070 in it) is notably missing.

Leapfrogging right back into 2-3 year old performance.
Uh, that's a nonsensical take on what's going on.
2080Ti is a 754mm^2 monstrosity.
Not having something in that area doesn't mean "being years behind".

2060/2070/2080 is a today's "right here and now" line-up, not "from years back". (I love how you refer nvidia's ever inflating price policies though)
2060 < V56 < 5070 (non-XT)
V64 < 2070 < 5070XT (40CUs)
VII < 2080
2080Ti - no fucks given, since underdogs do not have spare R&D money. (where is Volta, on which, as Huang said, NV spent billions to develop?)

Polaris cards wee roughly on par with Pascal perf/mem/die size wise.
Vega notably lagged behind.
Navi is restoring the parity.
It has node advantage, but it's also smaller chips.

The only aspect in which AMD is notably lagging behind, is power consumption.
 
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5700 non-pro vs 2060



AC:O (yes, a greencampfuckamd optimized game, but 5070 XT beat 2070 in it) is notably missing.


Uh, that's a nonsensical take on what's going on.
2080Ti is a 754mm^2 monstrosity.
Not having something in that area doesn't mean "being years behind".

2060/2070/2080 is a today's "right here and now" line-up, not "from years back". (I love how you refer nvidia's ever inflating price policies though)
2060 < V56 < 5070 (non-XT)
V64 < 2070 < 5070XT (40CUs)
VII < 2080
2080Ti - no fucks given, since underdogs do not have spare R&D money. (where is Volta, on which, as Huang said, NV spent billions to develop?)

Polaris cards wee roughly on par with Pascal perf/mem/die size wise.
Vega notably lagged behind.
Navi is restoring the parity.
It has node advantage, but it's also smaller chips.

The only aspect in which AMD is notably lagging behind, is power consumption.
Yes, I may have come out a bit too strong on that comparison. Its definitely faster than 1080, approaching 1080ti levels even. Keep in mind the 2070 is still slower than a 1080ti though...

Thing is, the only parity that is restored here is cost effectiveness. There is nothing new on offer so AMD is once more relegated to competing on price, and price alone. Not hard for Nvidia to steamroll right over.

BTW it seems we give an equal amount of f*cks about that 2080ti ;) It will be interesting to see what Nvidia will do with 7nm. And how much Navi 20 improves on 10 (because it still needs to).

OK but this GPU has odd power because of the fact that RX 5700 XT is almost same with Radeon VII in BF5.
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If it gets 122 FPS, it will be awesome.

Well, now we could see other benchmarks.

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RX 5700 XT gets 53 FPS and same with GTX 1080 Ti. I only say that It is impressive.

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Okay but i don't want it is same with R7. AMD why released R7 for $699?

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All right, Why is RX 5700 XT worse than RTX 2070 in SoTR?

I wonder 1080p benchmarks. Is it better or worser than RTX 2070?
Don't compare benchmarks from different sources, it will skew your view on reality. W1zzard has a different test setup so they may be related, but they don't match. That answers your questions.
 
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Yes, I may have come out a bit too strong on that comparison. Its definitely faster than 1080, approaching 1080ti levels even. Keep in mind the 2070 is still slower than a 1080ti though...
Yes, it is slower than that strange 1080Ti that I couldn't find in price machine, where it is either missing altogether or priced ridiculously.
So, oh well, that's a card from the past. Forget it.

Thing is, the only parity that is restored here is cost effectiveness. There is nothing new on offer so AMD is once more relegated to competing on price, and price alone. Not hard for Nvidia to steamroll right over.
No, there is perf/die size on a not super-expensive memory parity.
The "nothing new" argument is weird and can be applied to:
1650 (why do people even buy this piece of shit)
2060
2070

As that performance was available for that money years ago.
Even more cards can be called out, if I bring in ridiculously cheap V56/V64 cards.

And, hold on, I recall well OC-ed 980Ti are not that far from 1080, for the price.
 
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Yes, it is slower than that strange 1080Ti that I couldn't find in price machine, where it is either missing altogether or priced ridiculously.
So, oh well, that's a card from the past. Forget it.


No, there is perf/die size on a not super-expensive memory parity.
The "nothing new" argument is weird and can be applied to:
1650 (why do people even buy this piece of shit)
2060
2070

As that performance was available for that money years ago.
Even more cards can be called out, if I bring in ridiculously cheap V56/V64 cards.

And, hold on, I recall well OC-ed 980Ti are not that far from 1080, for the price.
You were saying...? Not too bad for 2 year old top end cards - regardless, we understand each other. The 2060 and 2070 did offer novelties, what value you might attribute to that is personal. The 16xx I can only agree on, pointless releases altogether. And I also agree on the entire Turing line up as such, except the 2060 really, but only because it has kicked the price level down significantly.

With Navi 10, if it lacks aggressive pricing, we're stagnant.

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You were saying...?
1) "But we could have had that perf for that money years ago" applies to most cards on the market.
2) 1080Ti is an interesting fluke, since you can't even buy it (so, a downgrade in availability, cool times, eh?)

Just chatting, not objecting, peace & harmony.

BTW it seems we give an equal amount of f*cks about that 2080ti ;) It will be interesting to see what Nvidia will do with 7nm. And how much Navi 20 improves on 10 (because it still needs to).
I'm pretty sure 99% of people buying GPU's couldn't care less for $1000+ cards.

Once NV moves to 7nm (Samsung?) will probably be way past Xmas.
AMD could have "next" RDNA cards by that time (they kinda have to, since both Microsoft and Sony want that) with DXR, heavy "AI" denoising of that weird supernoisy "something" that one could use to mimick reflections/etc with significant performance penalty.

But even if they don't, haha, so what?
If NV will be able to "tier up" performance wise, if AMD won't, they will continue to play that "pricing tier up" game. 970 ($330), 1070 (spare me, don't even want to dig it up), 2070 ($500).

So, what about $599/$699 for 3070, hehe?
I'd thoroughly enjoy it.
 
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So, what about $599/$699 for 3070, hehe?
I'd thoroughly enjoy it.
Nvidia know what they will doing. It isn't able to $699/$599. Also AMD's prices supports Nvidia's strategy. AMD and Nvidia don't think of consumers wallet. They only think their wallet. Though Intel will join GPUs segment and Ray Tracing becomes widespread. If they increase prices, everybody won't want buy GPU.

I believe that Nvidia's Ampere will strong and cheaper than Turing. I expect that RTX 3070 will stronger than RTX 2080 for 400-450 Dollars, RTX 3060 will same with GTX 1080 Ti for 300-350 Dollars, RTX 3080 will beat RTX 2080 Ti with +%10 performance for 600-650 Dollars, RTX 3080 Ti will stronger than RTX 2080 Ti by %30-40 for 900 Dollars.


7NM has big density which is up 96.5(TSMC) or 95.3. It is 3.39 times Pascal's Density as well as it has got high clock speed. Think of the Ampere's power. Possibly they will make refresh.
 
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So I'd say "Only 8GB ... FAIL" I have 8 GB now and it's not enough for sim games

If this is the low-to-mid end then I guess the high end should have 24-32GB RAM right? That's going to be good for simulator games.

I'm not getting anything below 16GB of VRAM, that's for sure.
 
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I believe that Nvidia's Ampere will strong and cheaper than Turing. I expect that RTX 3070 will stronger than RTX 2080 for 400-450 Dollars, RTX 3060 will same with GTX 1080 Ti for 300-350 Dollars, RTX 3080 will beat RTX 2080 Ti with +%10 performance for 600-650 Dollars, RTX 3080 Ti will stronger than RTX 2080 Ti by %30-40 for 900 Dollars.
Because that's how prices worked so far, right? I mean with 970 $330 going to $500 2070, 3070 being cheaper than 2070 is almost a given, isn't it? (and we don't mean a chip by AMD here... :))
Lol.

I hope I'll remember your post, once <whatever next gen> comes out of nVidia.
 
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