AMD Radeon RX 5700

[W1zzard]

The Radeon RX 5700 is the second Navi card AMD launches today. Priced at $349, it is more affordable than anything NVIDIA has to offer in this segment, yet brings more performance to the table than the RX Vega 64. What really impressed us is the greatly improved power efficiency that's just as good as many NVIDIA Turing cards.

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[birdie]

We were shocked to see Radeon RX 5700 beat the power efficiency of many NVIDIA Turing cards. AMD has achieved the unthinkable!

Um, no. A large part of NVIDIA's 12nm die is dedicated to Ray Tracing/Tensor Cores which means Turing is a lot more power efficient as seen by the GTX 1660 Ti card which is comfortably beating AMD offerings in this metric.

While I applaud AMD for Navi it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth:

• In less than a year from now they will release proper RDNA with hardware ray tracing acceleration. These cards are yet another example of AMD saying "We are not dead" in the GPU business.
• These are middle-range cards, right? Then why are they priced so high? $50 less and they would have been hugely successful.
• Why has AMD chosen such prices (even after the last-minute price adjustment) that AMD offering match NVIDIA's almost exactly while not offering accelerated RT? This reeks of collusion.
• The blower fan is idiotic and must have died years ago - AMD lovers who are eager to get NAVI should wait for custom designs.
• "High multi-monitor power draw" - seriously? A brand new GPU arch and you're still carrying this bug?

 

[Frick]

Better than I expected actully. Now to see what the prices in Sweden will be.

 

[Zubasa]

Um, no. A large part of NVIDIA's 12nm die is dedicated to Ray Tracing/Tensor Cores which means Turing is a lot more power efficient as seen by the GTX 1660 Ti card which is comfortably beating AMD offerings in this metric.

RTRT is off in all of the tests, so those RT cores are inactive this whole time.
Also if the RTRT is on all it means is the GPU hits the same TDP cap and clocks lower anyway.
So all it means is with RTRT on the perfomance / watt just goes down on RTX Turing.

 

[Pumper]

So as expected. The $50 price difference vs 5700XT is too small - should be max $329, and the fan noise is unacceptable. DOA until we see aftermarket cards.

 

[sutyi]

So as expected. The $50 price difference vs 5700XT is too small - should be max $329, and the fan noise is unacceptable. DOA until we see aftermarket cards.

Blower cards were and will be always noisy compared to AIB cards. I'll wait for Sapphire PULSE two fan axial and get one when its on sale. GTX 1080 per for 300US would've been nice on launch, but in this market... even this I consider a small miracle.

 

[unikin]

Was 36 watts multi-monitor power draw tested with 2 or more monitors? would it draw the same 36W or more power when 5-6 monitors are connected? I'm not worried about power consumption per se, but the fan noise that comes with GPU being warmer. Thanks.

 

[W1zzard]

Was 36 watts multi-monitor power draw tested with 2 or more monitors? would it draw the same 36W or more power when 5-6 monitors are connected? I'm not worried about power consumption per se, but the fan noise that comes with GPU being warmer. Thanks.

2 monitors as listed in the article. I haven't tested it, but don't think it'll go higher

 

[Dristun]

Gotta buy a new card and a CPU this summer before moving to study to the EU in September (prices in Russia are anywhere between 10-20% lower so I'd rather not wait), so absent some miracle Sapphire Pulse launch at the same msrp in August it looks like the videocard part of my money will go to nvidia this time. Shame about the blower!
At least the new Ryzens look super good and meet all of my expectations.

 

[B-Real]

• These are middle-range cards, right? Then why are they priced so high? $50 less and they would have been hugely successful

True, it would be great if it was selling for $300, but NV just released the 2060 Super for $50 more and not for the same price as with the 2070S and 2080S.

 

[Metroid]

Thanks for the review, this review show us why amd released the radeon vii before navi.

 

[steen]

A large part of NVIDIA's 12nm die is dedicated to Ray Tracing/Tensor Cores...

Is it? How much %, roughly?

@W1zzard, bizarre V/clk curve indeed. Fan table is screwed up too.

 

[wheresmycar]

impressed by the value and performance and decent improvement in power efficiency. A nice kick in the teeth for $$-hungry NVIDIA.

When it comes to power draw and thermals (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-5700/32.html), the 5700 looks decent but the XT variant hitting load temps @ 92c?? That's a little on the heavy side for my personal liking.

When can we expect AIB partner cards to emerge? As much as I fancy the performance advantages with NAVI i'm equally attentive to noise levels and thermals for a more complete solution. Something I'm more than happy to splash out an additional 25-50 bucks before considering blower type cards and undervolting.

 

[IceShroom]

Um, no. A large part of NVIDIA's 12nm die is dedicated to Ray Tracing/Tensor Cores which means Turing is a lot more power efficient as seen by the GTX 1660 Ti card which is comfortably beating AMD offerings in this metric.

When you test a non DXR game those unit dont work and gives false power consumption for the card. RTX cards power consumption should be measured running a game that supports DXR.

Is those temperature for Navi is for junction temperature or surface temperature like other GPUs??

 

[Solaris17]

I am absolutely blown away by AMD with Navi and Zen2. I am so happy for them. @W1zzard the reviews specifically for Zen2 and Navi, wow what can I say? If I thought they were comprehensive before, this is on a whole other level. Thank you very much for spending the hundreds of hours this must have took!

 

[Vya Domus]

The 5700XT is indeed clocked way out of it's optimal power envelope as I suspected. Navi is very efficient otherwise so great prospects for potentially scaled up chips.

 

[unikin]

Uf, prices in EU are a bit higher (€369/419 ->$417/473 MindFactory). I hope it's just temporary, otherwise I see no reason to buy Navi.

 

[0x4452]

1% better perf per dollar compared to last year's 2060, while noisier and no ray tracing.

Honestly, other than fanboyism, why is this card exciting other than providing NVIDIA with competition?

 

[wheresmycar]

1% better perf per dollar compared to last year's 2060, while noisier and no ray tracing.

Honestly, other than fanboyism, why is this card exciting other than providing NVIDIA with competition?

That's odd, how is the "performance per dollar" worked out?? Both the 2060 and 5700 are currently priced at $350 and yet the 5700 beats the 2060 by a pretty sizeable margin in 3 of my favourite and currently played titles:

About 22% increase in FPS with Battlefield V

11%+ in Metro Exodus

13%+ in Far Cry 5

Performance-wise the 5700 gets my vote but i'm a little baffled as to how the PPD is worked out

p.s. I'm far from a fan-boy and I have no desire in buying loud-ass blower cards, although interested in AIB partner cards to see how they stack up in terms of thermals and acoustics. I'm just glad AMD's got a foot through the mid-performer door in challenging Nvidias so-called "relative pricing" which is better defined to day-light-robbery.

 

[ShurikN]

A proper aftermarket cooler will probably make this the best GPU in class. Although it should have been around 300USD on launch.

 

[unikin]

Why such a difference between guru3d review of RX 5700 XT and TechPowerUp? Driver issues?
RX 5700 XT is trading blows with GTX 1080TI in their test:

AMD Radeon RX 5700 and 5700 XT review

In this review, we look at the two new graphics cards released by AMD, the Radeon 5700 and 5700 XT. Both cards are based on the new NAVI GPU, fabricated at a 7nm node and capable of battling with NVI... DX12: Metro: EXODUS

www.guru3d.com

 

[biffzinker]

After reading through @W1zzard's review for the Radeon RX 5700 I get the impression AMD might of rushed the release.

 

[Assimilator]

Ugh, once again good hardware that is prevented from possibly being great by broken firmware and drivers. And once again, AMD's attempt to ape NVIDIA's lucratively successful Founder's Edition program falls flat on its face.

Now before all the fanboys rush in to beat me to death with the old and tired "AMD will fix it later/fine wine" comments: I buy computer hardware as if the company that sells it will go out of business tomorrow. If that happened to AMD, I would be stuck with a card with broken fan curves, broken undervolting, broken overclocking. NVIDIA... not so much.

Broken s**t on launch day, whether software or hardware, is indefensible (yeah I'm looking at you, so called "AAA" games/publishers). I remember the HD 5850 I bought on launch day... it just worked. Will we ever see that AMD again, I wonder?

Anyway, looks like it's (once again) up to AMD board partners to produce graphics cards that people actually want to buy. Let's just hope that AMD doesn't pull another Vega - hopefully this time, they have more than a dozen working Navi 10 GPUs that they can supply to partners.

Oh, and remember all those people crying about lack of SLI on RTX 2060? They seem to be very quiet about no CrossFire on these cards... I wonder why?

 

[Aerpoweron]

To be honest Assimilator, i trust AMD more in getting the drivers for the new cards fixed than i would nvidia. Nvidia has just screwed the customers too many times for me. Sadly AMD has learned that a little from them.
And i can remember when a buddy bought a GTX680 just a few days after release. It took almost a year until the drivers worked reasonably well on that card.
Both companies have had rushed launches pushed on them from the marketing departent. But i have to agree that AMD should have learned something from the Radeon VII launch.
And the lack of SLI or Crossfire support? It is just not relevant any longer the GPUs are powerful enough. I argued that even when Nvidia dropped the support. It might be nice for Benchmarking, but most games barely support it any longer.

Don't forget that AMD has also pulled of a great CPU launch. So some slack should be given if not everything is perfect. I hope they can improve on Navi to catch Nvidia sooner or later. Navi is a step in the right direction.

 

[EatingDirt]

1% better perf per dollar compared to last year's 2060, while noisier and no ray tracing.

Honestly, other than fanboyism, why is this card exciting other than providing NVIDIA with competition?

Most mid-ish range cards are unexciting. Enthusiasts love high end cards, they're like fast cars, super fast and most people can't actually afford them. So yes, this card is boring, but it's not a bad card because like you stated, competition is great, it brings down the price for of these GPU's for all of us... also because raytracing on a 2060 is basically worthless: Techsport DXR Review