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All good, just saw amd.com website has stock.
anyone who pays $699 for 30 fps slower actually lets make that 40 fps slower at 1080p across the board almost (cause radeon VII doesn't OC for crap compared to 2080 oc'd) while costing you more in an energy bill each month...

well I will withhold my comments. LOL
 
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As disappointing as it might be for some I feel like this...
With driver updates and such I believe they might be able to close the gaps a bit. I do feel if the price was around the £600 mark it would have been better (maybe that might happen at some point) but even with the slower performance than I was hoping for as everyone was hoping for, in the games that drivers and such are working for it, this AMD card is a step in the right direction :)

I would like to say hats off to them but instead I'll tip my hat and just wait till the aftermarket cooled cards are around and go from there. Still no regrets for buying my two 1080 Ti's but I'd definitely be looking at this card for the games it hits pass the 2080 and near to the 2080 Ti :)
 
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I don't see Titan RTX, RTX 2080 Ti on that list, do you?
I wonder how much amd paid to make those graphs look better over Nvidia.
Not a dime... don't be a fool.

Correct... the $3000 Titan RTX isn't in there, nor the 2080 Ti for $1100. But will it be 2x faster to justify their pricing???? Look bigger picture. ;)

As disappointing as it might be for some I feel like this...
With driver updates and such I believe they might be able to close the gaps a bit. I do feel if the price was around the £600 mark it would have been better (maybe that might happen at some point) but even with the slower performance than I was hoping for as everyone was hoping for, in the games that drivers and such are working for it, this AMD card is a step in the right direction :)

I would like to say hats off to them but instead I'll tip my hat and just wait till the aftermarket cooled cards are around and go from there. Still no regrets for buying my two 1080 Ti's but I'd definitely be looking at this card for the games it hits pass the 2080 and near to the 2080 Ti :)
Drivers will vary from no gains to several percent. It will vary by title. But as someone said, there isn't much difference under the hood here compared to Vega and that is a mature process. On this front, I won't hold my breath.

THe aftermarket cards will be more quiet, but will also fetch an additional premium making price to performance (where AMD typically shines) even worse...
 
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As disappointing as it might be for some I feel like this...
With driver updates and such I believe they might be able to close the gaps a bit. I do feel if the price was around the £600 mark it would have been better (maybe that might happen at some point) but even with the slower performance than I was hoping for as everyone was hoping for, in the games that drivers and such are working for it, this AMD card is a step in the right direction :)

I would like to say hats off to them but instead I'll tip my hat and just wait till the aftermarket cooled cards are around and go from there. Still no regrets for buying my two 1080 Ti's but I'd definitely be looking at this card for the games it hits pass the 2080 and near to the 2080 Ti :)
That's pretty optimistic especially given this isn't a new design. It's doubtful the drivers are very different from Vega, if at all. I would not sell your 1080ti's for this anymore than the 2080 - they are all virtually the same card.

Definitely wait for the 7nm redesign.
 
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As disappointing as it might be for some I feel like this...
With driver updates and such I believe they might be able to close the gaps a bit. I do feel if the price was around the £600 mark it would have been better (maybe that might happen at some point) but even with the slower performance than I was hoping for as everyone was hoping for, in the games that drivers and such are working for it, this AMD card is a step in the right direction :)

I would like to say hats off to them but instead I'll tip my hat and just wait till the aftermarket cooled cards are around and go from there. Still no regrets for buying my two 1080 Ti's but I'd definitely be looking at this card for the games it hits pass the 2080 and near to the 2080 Ti :)

driver update will close a 40 fps gap over a oc'd 2080 at 1080p while using less wattage? lol mmk. i still play a lot of DX11 games so yeah... no thanks.
 
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holy crap,slower than 1080ti ? Am I seeing this correctly ?
 
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Sorry but these are all best-case for AMD and thus you cherrypicked.

Overall this card is a major let down, 7nm, massive power use, worse perf/watt than NVIDIA 16nm and can't universally beat 1080 ti after 2 years.

yep 95% of games its terrible. i love how people this cherry pick the only 5% of games it does well in, LOL
 
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How disappointing, performance between a RTX 2070 and RTX 2080, consuming on the verge of 300W.

This card is terrible performance/watt wise, and on price/performance too.

Like I said before, its a rushed PR stunt card, just so people don't forget AMD in this segment.

The only good thing I see is the 16GB of VRAM, which can be interesting for a consumer niche!
 
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Sorry but these are all best-case for AMD and thus you cherrypicked.

Overall this card is a major let down, 7nm, massive power use, worse perf/watt than NVIDIA 16nm and can't universally beat 1080 ti after 2 years.
Best case, so what about the best case scenario for 1080Ti do they not count? It's a virtual tie depending on resolution & quality.
 
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Yes.

I cried a bit inside.
ya it is depressing. I had high hopes if nothing else it would OC well and then compete... but nope it apparently doesn't OC at all (according to guru3d)
 
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What a joke, Lisa Su lost all respect from me for allowing this product to be released. I was considering a 3700x, but screw it. 9700k and rtx 2080 is probably my next build.

really disappointing, 30 fps slower across the board at 1080p almost... and using 100 watts more... wow so pathetic...
come on,what does your cpu choice have to do with that ?
 
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Everybody saying the card is trash, but it beat the 2080 by a good margin in 4 titles, maybe with some optimization and driver maturity it will be a good card, as it is RN its just not there.
This card is just a Radeon instinct rebreanded.
 
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TPU's performance summary is based on significantly more games and it's definitely more accurate because of this.
 
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anyone who pays $699 for 30 fps slower actually lets make that 40 fps slower at 1080p across the board almost (cause radeon VII doesn't OC for crap compared to 2080 oc'd) while costing you more in an energy bill each month...

well I will withhold my comments. LOL
As I posted earlier, this shouldn't be a consumer card, I'm needing compute and the awesome build quality + price target is perfect for 24/7 use on the cheap.

I wouldn't spend more than $250 just to play games...
 
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come on,what does your cpu choice have to do with that ?
because Lisa Su was the last person in the industry I trusted. and she lost that trust today. now i trust none of them, intel, amd, or nvidia. so i might as well just go with classic intel and nvidia for my next build. 9700k is the best gaming chip especially since i see it for $369 free ship no tax right now.
 
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come on,what does your cpu choice have to do with that ?
Lol, they said that? :O Ryzen is fantastic and taking the fight directly to Intel. Radeon's just... a bit behind xD (still can have great value, take my 570 for example).

3700X will be in another league to 9700K. I'm not abandoning AMD because of the VII being a bit.. mediocre. xD
 
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As I posted earlier, this shouldn't be a consumer card, I'm needing compute and the awesome build quality + price target is perfect for 24/7 use on the cheap.

I wouldn't spend more than $250 just to play games...
but it is and lisa su advertised it as such.
 
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because Lisa Su was the last person in the industry I trusted. and she lost that trust today. now i trust none of them, intel, amd, or nvidia. so i might as well just go with classic intel and nvidia for my next build. 9700k is the best gaming chip especially since i see it for $369 free ship no tax right now.
Feel free to waste your money. Ryzen 3000 is going to make lot of 9th gen parts obsolete at their current prices.
 
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It's very fast in Dx12 but needs a triple slot cooler and $100-$150 price drop.
 
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now to include a lit up gadget in the box and rephrase low availability as "limited edition", fanboys will line up for a 300W 1080Ti at $700 like crazy.

because Lisa Su was the last person in the industry I trusted. and she lost that trust today. now i trust none of them, intel, amd, or nvidia. so i might as well just go with classic intel and nvidia for my next build. 9700k is the best gaming chip especially since i see it for $369 free ship no tax right now.
then you're the sucker for trusting a business.
 
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