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AMD Readies Radeon HD 5830, Seals Upper-Mainstream Gaps

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this may be what i upgrade to.
 

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Depending on how good Google is, the 5830 is suppose to use the 5850 boards. Would I be right in to assume that if it used a 5770 board that it couldn't have more than a 128 bit bus?

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Hmm, perhaps you're right. I'd prefer 1200 shaders at 700Mhz than 800 shaders at 850MHz, as the former would churn out much more horsepower!

But perhaps it takes a 5850 board since it has a 256-bit design (traces, pins, etc..)? A 5850 board is not too terribly long, and it could be just a bit modified, like with what Nvidia did for their GTX 275.

Is this 5830 supposed to be released real soon (a week or a month)?
 
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Hmm, perhaps you're right. I'd prefer 1200 shaders at 700Mhz than 800 shaders at 850MHz, as the former would churn out much more horsepower!

But perhaps it takes a 5850 board since it has a 256-bit design (traces, pins, etc..)? A 5850 board is not too terribly long, and it could be just a bit modified, like with what Nvidia did for their GTX 275.

Is this 5830 supposed to be released real soon (a week or a month)?
About 2 weeks according to that link (25th). If they could use the 5770 board I would think they would since it would be cheaper for AIB partners than the larger 5850.

I'm thinking 5770 core and memory speeds, so it doesn't end up slower, plus a 256 bit bus.
 

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I think the 58xx series card should have the HIGH END PCB design,fully digital etc...The 5770 PCB is clearly cheaper design for reducing cost mainly and because its enough for 128bit.
For 256 the complexity is much bigger so the PCB should stay HIGH END like the other 58xx cards so using the 5850 PCB would look the most logical decision for amd!
 

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^^ +1

About 2 weeks according to that link (25th). If they could use the 5770 board I would think they would since it would be cheaper for AIB partners than the larger 5850.

I'm thinking 5770 core and memory speeds, so it doesn't end up slower, plus a 256 bit bus.
The 5850 board is still shorter than the reference 4870/4890 boards, so I dont think the 5850 board is bad at all! :toast:

A few possible specs:

800 shaders, 850 MHz clock, 3.9 GHz GDDR5 (256-bit)

800 shaders, 900 MHz clock, 3.9 GHz GDDR5 (256-bit)

1200 shaders, 700 MHz clock, 3.9 GHz GDDR5 (256-bit)

1280 shaders, 700 MHz clock, 3.9 GHz GDDR5 (256-bit)

The higher, the better! :D
 
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I heard the HD5770 was going to get a refresh... Instead of 128bit GDDR5 they would re-arrange the VRAM and do 192bit GDDR5. Then completely drop the HD4890 and the HD5770 would replace the HD4890 entirely. This is just rumor on the specs, but the refresh was planned.
 

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if it`s only 10-15EUR cheaper than 5850 i'm not interested . Hope i`m wrong :)
Well in terms of USD, a 5850 starts at 300 if you're lucky, though it's 320-350 realistically for some/most cards. It looks like the 5830 is poised to come out in the 250 price range. I know that it translates to less of a difference in Euros, but it's gonna be way more than 10-15 for sure.
 
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Well in terms of USD, a 5850 starts at 300 if you're lucky, though it's 320-350 realistically for some/most cards. It looks like the 5830 is poised to come out in the 250 price range. I know that it translates to less of a difference in Euros, but it's gonna be way more than 10-15 for sure.
Dell had a Visiontek 5850 for 279 this week.
 
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^They tax almost everywhere so you're looking at $300 or so.
 
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u kno what's amazingly retarded thou. is that every single HD 4XXX series card is being replaced by a HD 5XXX series card of similar performance but the HD 5XXX series costs more when technically it should be cheaper.

HD 5750$129 = HD 4850$99
HD 5770$164 < HD 4870$169

The HD 5770 has a smaller chip, with a 128-bit bus which is cheaper than the HD 4870's 256-bit bus, and the HD 4870 slightly outperforms it...so the HD 5770 should be cheaper but its not which is homo. The same with the HD 5750, 128-bit bus vs a 256-bit bus, smaller die vs a bigger die. And the HD 4850 is $30 cheaper...just ridiculous.

And now this HD 5830 is suspected to be at HD 4890 performance for $250 or so?? yet the HD 4890 is only $200.....boo for ati's pricing..but i get the whole need to make money and make up for the past years i suppose.
 
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Yeah, ATI & AMD get to be the ones raking in the cash for once. I don't see a problem with that. Their GPUs are definitely deserving of it.
 

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u kno what's amazingly retarded thou. is that every single HD 4XXX series card is being replaced by a HD 5XXX series card of similar performance but the HD 5XXX series costs more when technically it should be cheaper.

HD 5750$129 = HD 4850$99
HD 5770$164 < HD 4870$169

The HD 5770 has a smaller chip, with a 128-bit bus which is cheaper than the HD 4870's 256-bit bus, and the HD 4870 slightly outperforms it...so the HD 5770 should be cheaper but its not which is homo. The same with the HD 5750, 128-bit bus vs a 256-bit bus, smaller die vs a bigger die. And the HD 4850 is $30 cheaper...just ridiculous.

And now this HD 5830 is suspected to be at HD 4890 performance for $250 or so?? yet the HD 4890 is only $200.....boo for ati's pricing..but i get the whole need to make money and make up for the past years i suppose.
Newer tech costs more! OMG. Nothing new at all bud. Add to that that this newer tech currently has no competition, even more is charged to the consumer. I do agree, it is not the best situation for a consumer to be in.
 
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Newer tech costs more! OMG. Nothing new at all bud. Add to that that this newer tech currently has no competition, even more is charged to the consumer. I do agree, it is not the best situation for a consumer to be in.
Which is exactly why this NON Nvidia Fan can't wait for Fermi to hit the markets and hopefully with some bang :D
 
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Newer tech costs more! OMG. Nothing new at all bud. Add to that that this newer tech currently has no competition, even more is charged to the consumer. I do agree, it is not the best situation for a consumer to be in.
newer eh? lol i suppose since its dx11 certified HD 5XXX is newer, but the HD 5770 chip just looks smaller than the HD 4870's imo, course idk the technicalities. N NO SHITS!!! fermi needs to hurry up n bounce up in the market on top of ATI's prices n get dem down to da floar!! :)
 
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this will be cool for <$200, that should lower the 5770s to around $140ish and the 5850s to around $250ish(where they should be).
(so AMD hurry and get rid of all the 4870/90s)
 
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by the time fermi comes around and i can actually put my hands on the card directX 12 will be out . :))
maybe dx13 that my friend aldon always talks about
 
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Off topic: Chinese forums are weird :wtf:

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