AMD Releases ATI Catalyst 9.7 Driver Suite

W1zzard · Jul 23, 2009

i hear catalyst 9.7 for xp today or tomorrow

Sir Alex Ice · Jul 23, 2009

ATI are failing again to keep up with Nvidia. I have 2 ATI HD4870 boards, great performance in single set-up, they suck in every possible way in Crossfire.
I play World of Warcraft mostly, and I can't play using the new Ultra setting for video quality. In addition, Crossfire does not bring performance improvements whatsoever. Furthermore, every time I enter WoW I have to change resolution and AA settings, as the game forgets to apply AA from one game session to the other.

jamesrt2004 · Jul 23, 2009

Sir Alex Ice said:
ATI are failing again to keep up with Nvidia. I have 2 ATI HD4870 boards, great performance in single set-up, they suck in every possible way in Crossfire.
I play World of Warcraft mostly, and I can't play using the new Ultra setting for video quality. In addition, Crossfire does not bring performance improvements whatsoever. Furthermore, every time I enter WoW I have to change resolution and AA settings, as the game forgets to apply AA from one game session to the other.

so cause the game isn't supporting your cards, and the GAME forgets it's aa settings its ati's fault -sigh-

Mussels · Jul 23, 2009

Sir Alex Ice said:
ATI are failing again to keep up with Nvidia. I have 2 ATI HD4870 boards, great performance in single set-up, they suck in every possible way in Crossfire.
I play World of Warcraft mostly, and I can't play using the new Ultra setting for video quality. In addition, Crossfire does not bring performance improvements whatsoever. Furthermore, every time I enter WoW I have to change resolution and AA settings, as the game forgets to apply AA from one game session to the other.

if your crossfire doesnt give you performance boosts, i'd say somethings not set up right.

As for wow, well... if the game doesnt remember settings, thats the games fault. blame the right thing.

tzitzibp · Jul 23, 2009

I agree with Mussels.... COD2 is a classic example of this.... I have to set it to recognize dual vga, everytime!

grunt_408 · Jul 23, 2009

Great news about 9.7's being out just in time for me new build

Fishymachine · Jul 23, 2009

Since you mostly play WoW why didn't you bought single a 9600GSO/9800GT or 4830/4770/4850? http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/mainstream-cards-mmorpg_14.html#sect0
And yes the game's 3D engine is to be honest a bit dated(and payed-of using nVidia money)

H82LUZ73 · Jul 23, 2009

The only thing that is confusing me is the new layout of Control Center,Man took me the last 30 mins to find the avivo color and the HDTV settings.Click the icon in the lower left corner of desktop & display section right click and select configure that brings up the scaling and all that.now im off to go play codwaw ctf .... :rockout:

Sir Alex Ice · Jul 23, 2009

Fishymachine said:
Since you mostly play WoW why didn't you bought single a 9600GSO/9800GT or 4830/4770/4850? http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/mainstream-cards-mmorpg_14.html#sect0
And yes the game's 3D engine is to be honest a bit dated(and payed-of using nVidia money)

Because I have also Mass Effect, Fallout 3 and others. Ultimately it can be only ATI's fault that the game is not optmized for their product. Consider this, WoW was ought for many years before HD4870 was launched. Therefore it should be HD4870 drivers that are optimized for WoW, not the other way around. ATI should be more concerned about selling their products, it's not Blizzard's job to sell it in their place.
Blizzard is doing just fine with 11.000.000 subscribers. Has ATI sold this many cards? Don't think so.

Imsochobo · Jul 23, 2009

Sir Alex Ice said:
ATI are failing again to keep up with Nvidia. I have 2 ATI HD4870 boards, great performance in single set-up, they suck in every possible way in Crossfire.
I play World of Warcraft mostly, and I can't play using the new Ultra setting for video quality. In addition, Crossfire does not bring performance improvements whatsoever. Furthermore, every time I enter WoW I have to change resolution and AA settings, as the game forgets to apply AA from one game session to the other.

How are YOU ABLE to manage that ?

Its a fact, ati is worse in wow than nvidia, but game resets stuff = not ati problem, its a problem with game.

My crossfire setup have been running issuefree for one year now.
Not a single complaint about ati drivers except one. 9.2 the one i could not upgrade....

toxirau · Jul 23, 2009

It is now downloading i wonder if this will give my HD3300 any performance increases x.x or hopefully some much needed OpenGL performance increases...

Mussels · Jul 23, 2009

toxirau said:
It is now downloading i wonder if this will give my HD3300 any performance increases x.x or hopefully some much needed OpenGL performance increases...

sure, there might be increases. but youre using onboard graphics, its never going to be much faster than what it is, until you replace it.

toxirau · Jul 23, 2009

Mussels said:
sure, there might be increases. but youre using onboard graphics, its never going to be much faster than what it is, until you replace it.

Hehe, yea once UPS decides that it wants to bring me my new power supply then i can really see some increases. I'm mainly just hoping to get some OpenGL performance increase in SecondLife.

TheMailMan78 · Jul 23, 2009

Sir Alex Ice said:
ATI are failing again to keep up with Nvidia. I have 2 ATI HD4870 boards, great performance in single set-up, they suck in every possible way in Crossfire.
I play World of Warcraft mostly, and I can't play using the new Ultra setting for video quality. In addition, Crossfire does not bring performance improvements whatsoever. Furthermore, every time I enter WoW I have to change resolution and AA settings, as the game forgets to apply AA from one game session to the other.

First welcome to the forums. If WoW is not holding the settings its the games issue not ATI. To fix this problem I would say you need to ether wait for a patch or lock your config file.

Usually games have an ".ini" file or a "config" file that holds all your settings so you don't have to re-enter them every time. I suggest you find this file and edit it to your settings via the text editor all windows OS have. Once you make everything the way it "should" be lock the file. Then start the game. This will keep the game from resetting your preferred settings. This works with any game. That should solve your problem. You might even be able to manually start your crossfire via this file. :toast:

Good Luck! I would offer more help but I don't have WoW.

Altered · Jul 23, 2009

Cheeseball said:
Hmm... no XP drivers yet?

Still none posted on ATI site. :banghead:

ShogoXT · Jul 23, 2009

The interface will take a little getting used to...

TheMailMan78 · Jul 23, 2009

ShogoXT said:
The interface will take a little getting used to...

Personally I don't like the new interface.

Mussels · Jul 23, 2009

TheMailMan78 said:
Personally I don't like the new interface.

neither.

Sure, its smaller and cleaner but some options are hidden away in un-intuitive places (scaling settings etc) - why have two icons for each screen, and different right click settings on each? Surely an icon per monitor, with all menus in the one right click (context) menu would be simpler?

TheMailMan78 · Jul 23, 2009

Mussels said:
neither.

Sure, its smaller and cleaner but some options are hidden away in un-intuitive places (scaling settings etc) - why have two icons for each screen, and different right click settings on each? Surely an icon per monitor, with all menus in the one right click (context) menu would be simpler?

I agree. However I have very little understanding of WTF you just said.

AsRock · Jul 23, 2009

Mussels said:
win7 is a fix. virtual XP.

Yeah a highly patched Vista lol, Which you have to pay for... I've played every game i play since win7 was available to public and found near every time i was better of with XP.

It's not as if i can afford Win7 either so that don't help. In the end win7 or Vista have nothing to offer me..

indybird · Jul 23, 2009

Ok so does anyone else in this thread use TPU GPUTool? As soon as I installed Catalyst 9.7 any core overclocks over 900Mhz (w/ or w/o voltage) on my ASUS HD4890 were now completely unstable. Furthermore GPUTool is now stating that there are errors at 975Mhz Memory (i.e the default clock).

Just a heads-up, if you're using GPUTool, stick with Catalyst 9.6.

-Indybird

js01 · Jul 23, 2009

The resident evil 5 benchmark still blows under DX10, I hope this is not how the drivers are when the games released.

TheMailMan78 · Jul 23, 2009

js01 said:
The resident evil 5 benchmark still blows under DX10, I hope this is not how the drivers are when the games released.

I doubt it. AMD is really good with fixing Nvidias "Tanya Harding" antics.

erocker · Jul 23, 2009

js01 said:
The resident evil 5 benchmark still blows under DX10, I hope this is not how the drivers are when the games released.

Does most of the RE5 bench run good, but one part of it is just horrible in DX10? That's what I got. The part where the frames really dip it seems as if the ATi drivers are forcing more AA than what is selected in game. It almost looks like it's trying to push at least 24x AA through it.

MrMilli · Jul 23, 2009

Sir Alex Ice said:
ATI are failing again to keep up with Nvidia. I have 2 ATI HD4870 boards, great performance in single set-up, they suck in every possible way in Crossfire.
I play World of Warcraft mostly, and I can't play using the new Ultra setting for video quality. In addition, Crossfire does not bring performance improvements whatsoever. Furthermore, every time I enter WoW I have to change resolution and AA settings, as the game forgets to apply AA from one game session to the other.

tzitzibp said:
I agree with Mussels.... COD2 is a classic example of this.... I have to set it to recognize dual vga, everytime!

Well the combination of old(er) games and Vista / Win7 can result in this problem.
The problem lies in the fact that the user has reading rights but no writing rights to a certain file (the config file in this case).
It's quite easy to fix this. Locate the config file (can be in the user folder or game folder) and in properties (second or third tab in think), give 'user' all rights (including modify and write).

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