Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming Wifi II |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12S Redux |
Memory | 4x8G Teamgroup Vulcan Z DDR4; 3600MHz @ CL18 |
Video Card(s) | MSI Ventus 2X GeForce RTX 3060 12GB |
Storage | WD_Black SN770, Leven JPS600, Toshiba DT01ACA |
Display(s) | Samsung ViewFinity S6 |
Case | Fractal Design Pop Air TG |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Corsair Harpoon RGB |
Keyboard | Keychron C2 Pro |
VR HMD | Valve Index |
Amended my post for clarification, was talking about 7000X3D in particular. Plain old 4/4c hybrids didn't have many issues except for subpar gmamingdhjgiusoigiujhd performance which was expected but all the same was received poorly.A lot? Do you have any examples? I'd assume this would be a problem for Strix point as well, even if not having 4C.
Processor | Ryzen 9 3900x |
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Motherboard | MSI B550 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 |
Memory | 32GB GSkill Ripjaws V 3600CL16 |
Video Card(s) | 3060Ti FE 0.9v |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, 2x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB |
Display(s) | ASUS ProArt PA278QV |
Case | be quiet! Pure Base 500 |
Audio Device(s) | Edifier R1850DB |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III 650W |
Mouse | A4Tech X-748K |
Keyboard | Logitech K300 |
Software | Win 10 Pro 64bit |
System Name | Silent |
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Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D @ 5.15ghz BCLK OC, TG AM5 High Performance Heatspreader |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans replaced with Noctua A14x25 G2 |
Cooling | Optimus Block, HWLabs Copper 240/40 + 240/30, D5/Res, 4x Noctua A12x25, 1x A14G2, Mayhems Ultra Pure |
Memory | 32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MT 26-36-36-48, 56.6ns AIDA, 2050 FCLK, 160 ns tRFC, active cooled |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock |
Storage | Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB |
Display(s) | 32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear, MX900 dual gas VESA mount |
Case | Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front, LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 x16 white |
Audio Device(s) | Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet w/upgrade pads & LCD headband, Galaxy Buds 3 Pro, Razer Nommo Pro |
Power Supply | SF750 Plat, full transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS w/Noctua |
Mouse | Razer Viper V3 Pro 8 KHz Mercury White w/Tiger Ice Skates & Pulsar Supergrip tape |
Keyboard | Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU-R CNC Alu/Brass, SS Prismcaps W+Jellykey, LekkerV2 mod, TLabs Leath/Suede |
Software | Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2 |
Benchmark Scores | Legendary |
No, because the reason they removed the TSVs is to save space, it's no longer a compact core if it has all that stuff.It's the concept though -- they would still have to have had designed a Zen C core with the necessary TSVs -- would be a modification of an existing design(s).
System Name | Best AMD Computer |
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Processor | AMD 7900X3D |
Motherboard | Asus X670E E Strix |
Cooling | In Win SR36 |
Memory | GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled) |
Storage | Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500 |
Display(s) | GIGABYTE FV43U |
Case | Corsair 7000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1 |
Power Supply | Deepcool 1000M |
Mouse | Logitech g7 gaming mouse |
Keyboard | Logitech G510 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin |
Benchmark Scores | Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121 |
Think about what you are saying the hallmark of X3D is Gaming. I have argued before that we should no longer be using AMD CPUs as a pool but segments of a pie as they are some very clear differences between chips. A 7700X is not a 8700G nor 7800X3D. When people used the 9700x Gaming performance the community reminded everyone that we are waiting for X3D chips but the pool mentality had a effect on sales.Amended my post for clarification, was talking about 7000X3D in particular. Plain old 4/4c didn't have many issues except for subpar gmamingdhjgiusoigiujhd performance which was expected but all the same was received poorly.
System Name | Main PC |
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Processor | I5 12400F |
Motherboard | MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12S |
Memory | Corsair Vengenance LPX 2x8 GB DDR4 3000 MHZ C16 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 2060 KO |
Storage | WD SN550 500GB M.2-2280 (Main drive)/ Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" SSD/ SanDisk Ultra 2 TB 2.5" SSD |
Display(s) | Main: AOC C24G1 24.0" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz 1ms, 2nd: AOC 24B2XH 23.8" 1920 x 1080 75 Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Pop Air |
Audio Device(s) | Razer Kraken 7.1 |
Power Supply | Be quiet System Power 9 500 CM 500 W 80+ Bronze Semi-modular |
Mouse | Razer Deathadder Chroma |
Keyboard | Corsair strafe (Cherry MX Silent) |
Software | Windows 10 |
Which honestly makes me worried, nothing good ever comes out of rushing a product, especially a CPU. Chances of stuff like manufacturing defects or firmware issues happening are gonna be much higher if they are rushing to release in October.So, after reports of delay to 2025, no they are rushing it? Intel's new CPUs must be impressive if AMD got spooked.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX and AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG MORTAR B650M WIFI |
Cooling | DeepCool AG400 PLUS |
Video Card(s) | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU and AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX |
Display(s) | Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 |
Case | ASUS ProArt PA602 |
Audio Device(s) | EDIFIER R1700BT |
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5 |
Mouse | ROG KERIS WIRELESS AIMPOINT |
Keyboard | ROG CLAYMORE II |
From what i remember from the Zen 5 release, one of the big issues regarding Zen 5 was the inter core latency aka Inter-CCD latency, if I am not mistaken, wouldn't the significantly higher amount of cache help offset/reduce the latency since the cache hit rate would be improved? If so, perhaps the 9800X3D will finally show a much bigger performance gain at least for gaming over Zen 4. Very exciting
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming Wifi II |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12S Redux |
Memory | 4x8G Teamgroup Vulcan Z DDR4; 3600MHz @ CL18 |
Video Card(s) | MSI Ventus 2X GeForce RTX 3060 12GB |
Storage | WD_Black SN770, Leven JPS600, Toshiba DT01ACA |
Display(s) | Samsung ViewFinity S6 |
Case | Fractal Design Pop Air TG |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Corsair Harpoon RGB |
Keyboard | Keychron C2 Pro |
VR HMD | Valve Index |
Maybe, maybe the anemic Zen 5 sales are causing a lot of pressure internally so the only way out for AMD is to release the newest most awesomest gaming chip and make headlines again. Probably some proportion of both.So, after reports of delay to 2025, no they are rushing it? Intel's new CPUs must be impressive if AMD got spooked.
System Name | PC on since Aug 2019, 1st CPU R5 3600 + ASUS ROG RX580 8GB >> MSI Gaming X RX5700XT (Jan 2020) |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5900X (July 2022), 220W PPT limit, 80C temp limit, CO -6-14, +50MHz (up to 5.0GHz) |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro (Rev1.0), BIOS F39b, AGESA V2 1.2.0.C |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420mm Rev7 (Jan 2024) with off-center mount for Ryzen, TIM: Kryonaut |
Memory | 2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo GTZN (July 2022) 3667MT/s 1.42V CL16-16-16-16-32-48 1T, tRFC:280, B-die |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Nitro+ RX 7900XTX (Dec 2023) 314~467W (382W current) PowerLimit, 1060mV, Adrenalin v24.12.1 |
Storage | Samsung NVMe: 980Pro 1TB(OS 2022), 970Pro 512GB(2019) / SATA-III: 850Pro 1TB(2015) 860Evo 1TB(2020) |
Display(s) | Dell Alienware AW3423DW 34" QD-OLED curved (1800R), 3440x1440 144Hz (max 175Hz) HDR400/1000, VRR on |
Case | None... naked on desk |
Audio Device(s) | Astro A50 headset |
Power Supply | Corsair HX750i, ATX v2.4, 80+ Platinum, 93% (250~700W), modular, single/dual rail (switch) |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master (Gen1) |
Keyboard | Logitech G15 (Gen2) w/ LCDSirReal applet |
Software | Windows 11 Home 64bit (v24H2, OSBuild 26100.2454), upgraded from Win10 to Win11 on Jan 2024 |
Yes 9000 cross CCD latency now matches the 7000 series.The cache latency issue has been addressed with AGESA 1.2.0.2, so the regular 9000s shouldn't be any worse then normal now. Still looking forward to an X3D 9000 launch though.
Processor | Threadripper 1950X |
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Motherboard | ASRock X399 Professional Gaming |
Cooling | IceGiant ProSiphon Elite |
Memory | 48GB DDR4 2934MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1080 |
Storage | 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVMe, 1TB Samsung 980 NVMe, 1TB Inland NVMe, 2TB Western Digital HDD |
Display(s) | 2x 4K60 |
Power Supply | Cooler Master Silent Pro M (1000W) |
Mouse | Corsair Ironclaw Wireless |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 MK.2 |
VR HMD | HTC Vive Pro |
Software | Windows 10, QubesOS |
Need to upgrade your memory: the 7950x3D was released before the 7800x3D, yet was beaten in gaming by the latter due to it being a one chiplet design with added 3D cache vs. the 7950x3D having one chiplet with cache and a second without it.I don't recall people getting angry at AMD for releasing the more expensive models first, don't they release all Skus at once? Unless my memory is failing me.
System Name | GameStation |
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Processor | AMD R5 5600X |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B550 |
Cooling | Artic Freezer II 120 |
Memory | 16 GB |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse 7900 XTX |
Storage | 2 TB SSD |
Case | Cooler Master Elite 120 |
Its the AMD curse, damned if they do, damned if they dont.Do you even remember how much shit AMD got for releasing the more expensive models first the last time? A whopping 43 days or so. People said they tried to milk impatient customers.
As usual, selective reading, selective rage, etc, only applies to AMD.Also considering how little the uplift in performance of the Zen 5 chips was over Zen 4 at least for gaming
Nah, Intel is as usual bribing the influencers to over hype Intel AND trash AMD.Intel's new CPUs must be impressive
I dunno, AMD have already rushed the last launch, but I don't think they're doing it now. My bet is that they planned to launch new 3D models in Q1, but then realized that the 9800X3D could come earlier, which is probably a direct response to Arrow, and the less than spectacular sales of 9000.Which honestly makes me worried, nothing good ever comes out of rushing a product, especially a CPU.
That makes sense tho.No, because the reason they removed the TSVs is to save space, it's no longer a compact core if it has all that stuff.
System Name | His & Hers |
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Processor | R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock |
Motherboard | X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero |
Cooling | Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk |
Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
Case | 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B |
Power Supply | Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero. |
Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
Drop the 9800X3D and show us what the other models can do at the same time, that's a whole lot better than no 9000X3D at all this year.
Well the original(lol) rumor for 9000X3D before it was Q1 WAS october, so I'm not that surprised.Definitely a good thing if true although AMD rumors tend to be all over the place though and are usually wrong so I'll believe it when I see it.
System Name | Homebase |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Aorus X570S UD |
Cooling | Scythe Mugen 5 RGB |
Memory | 2*16 Kingston Fury DDR4-3600 double ranked |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6800 16 GB |
Storage | 1*512 WD Red SN700, 1*2TB Curcial P5, 1*2TB Sandisk Plus (TLC), 1*14TB Toshiba MG |
Display(s) | Philips E-line 275E1S |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850 2019 |
Mouse | Sharkoon Sharkforce Pro |
Keyboard | Fujitsu KB955 |
System Name | SIGSEGV |
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Processor | INTEL i7-7700K | AMD Ryzen 2700X | AMD Ryzen 9 9950X |
Motherboard | QUANTA | ASUS Crosshair VII Hero | MSI MEG ACE X670E |
Cooling | Air cooling 4 heatpipes | Corsair H115i | Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC Fan 3000RPM | Arctic P14 MAX |
Memory | Micron 16 Gb DDR4 2400 | GSkill Ripjaws 32Gb DDR4 3400(OC) CL14@1.38v | Fury Beast 64 Gb CL30 |
Video Card(s) | Nvidia 1060 6GB | Gigabyte 1080Ti Aorus | TUF 4090 OC |
Storage | 1TB 7200/256 SSD PCIE | ~ TB | 970 Evo | WD Black SN850X 2TB |
Display(s) | 15,5" / 27" /34" |
Case | Black & Grey | Phanteks P400S | O11 EVO XL |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek |
Power Supply | Li Battery | Seasonic Focus Gold 750W | FSP Hydro TI 1000 |
Mouse | g402 |
Keyboard | Leopold|Ducky |
Software | LinuxMint |
Benchmark Scores | i dont care about scores |
Facing poor sales of its Ryzen 9000 "Granite Ridge" desktop processors
Here's one bit of data:I am sorry. Do you have valid data/evidence to back up your claim?
That's super firm dataHere's one bit of data:
And what if they were not capable of that, should they have waited until february with all models? I don't think so.AMD should have released the x3D versions at the same time and then people would have trumpeted the 9000 series as a success.
System Name | SIGSEGV |
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Processor | INTEL i7-7700K | AMD Ryzen 2700X | AMD Ryzen 9 9950X |
Motherboard | QUANTA | ASUS Crosshair VII Hero | MSI MEG ACE X670E |
Cooling | Air cooling 4 heatpipes | Corsair H115i | Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC Fan 3000RPM | Arctic P14 MAX |
Memory | Micron 16 Gb DDR4 2400 | GSkill Ripjaws 32Gb DDR4 3400(OC) CL14@1.38v | Fury Beast 64 Gb CL30 |
Video Card(s) | Nvidia 1060 6GB | Gigabyte 1080Ti Aorus | TUF 4090 OC |
Storage | 1TB 7200/256 SSD PCIE | ~ TB | 970 Evo | WD Black SN850X 2TB |
Display(s) | 15,5" / 27" /34" |
Case | Black & Grey | Phanteks P400S | O11 EVO XL |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek |
Power Supply | Li Battery | Seasonic Focus Gold 750W | FSP Hydro TI 1000 |
Mouse | g402 |
Keyboard | Leopold|Ducky |
Software | LinuxMint |
Benchmark Scores | i dont care about scores |
System Name | His & Hers |
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Processor | R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock |
Motherboard | X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero |
Cooling | Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk |
Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
Case | 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B |
Power Supply | Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero. |
Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
Processor | i5-6600K |
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Motherboard | Asus Z170A |
Cooling | some cheap Cooler Master Hyper 103 or similar |
Memory | 16GB DDR4-2400 |
Video Card(s) | IGP |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB |
Display(s) | 2x Oldell 24" 1920x1200 |
Case | Bitfenix Nova white windowless non-mesh |
Audio Device(s) | E-mu 1212m PCI |
Power Supply | Seasonic G-360 |
Mouse | Logitech Marble trackball, never had a mouse |
Keyboard | Key Tronic KT2000, no Win key because 1994 |
Software | Oldwin |
You'll never know which one is better unless you build systems with both.My 5800X build is 4 years old... 9800X3D or 265K. What will it be boys?