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Ryzen 5 3600 is the most affordable Zen 2 processor in AMD's lineup. At just $200, it offers six cores and twelve threads, yielding a significant advantage in applications against the competition from Intel. Gaming performance is also improved nicely as it is around 10% higher than with previous Ryzens.

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Very nice. Still happy with my 3700X, but if I only gamed this would be a great choice.
 
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Nice little all around $200 CPU and a clear winner at this price. I'd still prefer an OC 9600k for pure gaming but Intel has that currently over priced @ $250.
 
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Thanks for the review. Summary,

cpu tests, 3600 is 11.5% faster than the 9600k. Both stock
Gaming tests, 720p,1080p, 1440p,2160p, all combined, 3600 is 3% slower than the 9600k.

So all in all, 3600 is 11.5 - 3 = 8.5% faster than 9600k while it costs less, at $200. Intel recently reduced 9600k to $219, it's a start.
 
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Thanks for the review. Summary,

cpu tests, 3600 is 11.5% faster than the 9600k. Both stock
Gaming tests, 720p,1080p, 1440p,2160p, all combined, 3600 is 3% slower than the 9600k.

So all in all, 3600 is 11.5 - 3 = 8.5% faster than 9600k while it costs less, at $200. Intel recently reduced 9600k to $219, it's a start.
The 9600k is only $219 at microcenter, $246 on Amazon and $254 on Newegg. If you look at GN review they include OC 9600k results which increase the gaming performance between it and the ryzen 3600.
 
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The 9600k is only $219 at microcenter, $246 on Amazon and $254 on Newegg. If you look at GN review they include OC 9600k results which increase the gaming performance between it and the ryzen 3600.

If anybody plans to overclock then the 9600k matches the 3600, the 3600 is only good at stock, the 9600k can probably hit 4.9ghz stable 24/7. I would go for 9600k. Also to point it out, both 3600 and the 9600k need a cooler.

"Overclocking the Ryzen 5 3600 was mostly held back by temperatures. When using our typical OC voltage of 1.4 V, the CPU temperature would skyrocket above 100°C within seconds of applying a heavy load. After backing down a bit on the voltage, to 1.37 V, we could reach 4.125 GHz all-core perfectly stable. Now of course that frequency is lower than the chip's maximum boost frequency of 4.2 GHz. As our performance numbers show, the manual overclock can only shine in specific applications that fully load all cores, and even there, the differences are small.

Using a 240 mm AIO watercooler yielded another 25 MHz, because we could bump up voltage a little bit — not worth it. "

 
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Unlike Core i5 parts at this price-point such as the i5-9500, the Ryzen 5 3600 offers an unlocked base-clock multiplier making it capable of CPU overclocking.
PBO and manual overclocking yield no significant gains
Nice.
Boost doesn't maximize low-threaded clock potential
I think you may have found the differentiator between these 2 CPUs. The 3600X is rated at 95W, that's where that's put to (good?) use.
 
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Price for 3900x needs fixing in that CPU table.
 
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Some people are complaining it is hitting 80c or more when 100%, probably because is summer.
I view it as a feature. You CPU auto-overclocks when it gets cold. :D

And having run my 3700X with the stock cooler, a Big Shuriken 3, and H100i AIO, the performance difference between them all is pretty small. Does show up in benchmarks, but really we are talking about ~100mhz of all core frequency difference.

Very small undervolt reduces that clock difference to like 10mhz in my case.
 

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I view it as a feature. You CPU auto-overclocks when it gets cold. :D

And having run my 3700X with the stock cooler, a Big Shuriken 3, and H100i AIO, the performance difference between them all is pretty small. Does show up in benchmarks, but really we are talking about ~100mhz of all core frequency difference.

Very small undervolt reduces that clock difference to like 10mhz in my case.
Not sure if you're familiar with this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ceakbs
 
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Not sure if you're familiar with this: [/MEDIA]

Very. The biggest drops start happening around -.1v. There is another post on reddit about this, at least for the 3700x.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cc19mm
LIttle to no performance loss up to -.075v and I can confirm. This is me running at -.075v, mostly since it keeps my Big Shuriken 3 around 75c under load. Tried lowering it and performance in Cinebench R20 didn't increase. Seems to be virtually identical to setting it to 85w.

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I watched a video here and there was something the reviewer said "you must go into bios and enable cool and quiet feature for single thread performance to reach 4.4ghz." Also he said " voltages up to 1.50v is normal in single thread because that is the required voltage to hit 4.4ghz" It makes sense, people are undervolting their cpu for 24/7 1.32v and then they complain it never hits even 4.2ghz. That video made a lot of sense. It's understandable that for 4.4ghz it needs 1.4v minimum and if you manually set it lower than that then you will not get that magical 4.4ghz on 3700x hehe

 
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For the price point, it's great.

Have been playing with my 3600x since I got it a few days ago. I've been able to run 4200MHz all cores at 1.33v and 4300 all cores at 1.35v, though it gets to ~91c on the stock cooler running Cinebench at 4300 on all cores. Water block will take care of that.
 
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Lol @ people saying the unlocked multiplier is a bonus over Intel when these chips are already running maxed out out of the box.
 
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Lol @ people saying the unlocked multiplier is a bonus over Intel when these chips are already running maxed out out of the box.

Yes. AMD already stated that their tech is out there to maximize the silicon's performance. So any manual overclocking over XFR does'nt really gain not that much. The days of the FX are over, where a 3.2Ghz base model would easily overclock to 4.8Ghz. This is just about getting memory with low latency and a beefy cooler and call it a day. You can bet that future video cards of AMD will have the same, as Nvidia is doing as well currently with their Current limits.

If you want premium you pay for premium. Or go intel. But to be honest the XFR on my 2700x really does a good job. As long as you keep the CPU cooled under 60 degrees it will stay all core at 4.15Ghz and single at 4.35Ghz.
 
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If I wanted a CPU now (and I kinda do) I'd go for the 3600. The 8 cores seem overpriced compared to it (210€ vs. 350€ vs 430€) and the 12 core is out of stock everywhere (between 1 week and 3 weeks according to so-so reliable statements from the etailers). 6 core and 12 core seem the best priced, I don't think the 3800x will offer a lot of reasons to get it over the cheaper 3700x or the 100€ more expensive 3900x. That R9 being out of stock everywhere is a real bummer.
 

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Man I'm so fucking confused right now. The government recently put 12% or so tax on pc parts so by all accounts the Ryzen 5 3600's gonna be priced equal to currently available pre-tax i5 9600k. Even that won't last cause the importers are saying post-tax shipments will jump in price.

So the genius (if I say so myself) in me is saying since I mostly only game I should just get the i5 9600k since it can reach 5.0 Ghz or so.

But the other genius in my head saw the CPU utilisation in newer games like AC Odyssey in various YT benchmarks. Comfortable 40-50% on 3600/x vs 70-80% on the i5 9600k. That's awfully cutting close to being bottlenecked.

Man I'm so confused.
 

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Man I'm so fucking confused right now. The government recently put 12% or so tax on pc parts so by all accounts the Ryzen 5 3600's gonna be priced equal to currently available pre-tax i5 9600k. Even that won't last cause the importers are saying post-tax shipments will jump in price.

So the genius (if I say so myself) in me is saying since I mostly only game I should just get the i5 9600k since it can reach 5.0 Ghz or so.

But the other genius in my head saw the CPU utilisation in newer games like AC Odyssey in various YT benchmarks. Comfortable 40-50% on 3600/x vs 70-80% on the i5 9600k. That's awfully cutting close to being bottlenecked.

Man I'm so confused.

basically, all modern CPUS are good enough for gaming.

two years ago CPU prices were so high, you had to get THE BEST to justify the cost, now you can get cheap stuff and have them handle high end gaming just fine.

get a (bios updated) B450, a 3600, and you're gunna be fine for any kind of gaming unless you want 240Hz CSGO or something equally unlikely
 
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For the price point, it's great.

Have been playing with my 3600x since I got it a few days ago. I've been able to run 4200MHz all cores at 1.33v and 4300 all cores at 1.35v, though it gets to ~91c on the stock cooler running Cinebench at 4300 on all cores. Water block will take care of that.
Try per CCX overclocking, it might show better results.
 
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Not much oc, i have mine at 4.2ghz 1.350 volt an llc at 5 (asus prime x470 pro)

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