AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Good going IMHO, last year the Intel fans were talking up 1080p performance, now it's 720p, or price.
Oh the Comedy.

And of course it's a hard ask to jump from 3Xxx to 5Xxx, in price, 3Xxx are still on the shelf , should they sell em for nowt, pass em out?!, Good business.

But choose with your wallet , I am, As Ever.

 

[bug]

I take it we should wait for a separate article about overclocking? You know, running IF 1:1 and all that.

 

[Makaveli]

The veracrypt numbers are still very low on your test bench which I pointed out awhile ago.

Nice.
Any word on the new chipsets?


3200 MHz is the highest memory speed supported in stock configuration. A comparison between products should be stock, unless you compare overclocked vs. overclocked.

What new chipsets?

Yeah not really happy about the price of the 5800X ($779.00NZD) here it's rather a steep increase from what my 3700X cost me (547.00NZD) for what is essentially a hotter more power hungry chip and not that large of perf boost either

There is certainly a performance difference from a 3700X vs a 5800X I suggest you read more reviews.

However your local pricing is quite the difference.

 

[bug]

Good going IMHO, last year the Intel fans were talking up 1080p performance, now it's 720p, or price.
Oh the Comedy.

And of course it's a hard ask to jump from 3Xxx to 5Xxx, in price, 3Xxx are still on the shelf , should they sell em for nowt, pass em out?!, Good business.

But choose with your wallet , I am, As Ever.

Well, price is something to talk about. Many were hoping AMD would take the fight to Intel while still selling at the price points it was forced to sell before Zen. That was foolish and we see that now.
As for low-res gaming, I guess there's always e-sports. And probably a few other fringe cases where Intel may still hold its own. But you have to be blind not to see that Ryzen is the default choice for pretty much everything these days.

One thing that I have noticed, Intel was still doing better in various desktop applications (Office, browsers). Zen3 took care of that and that I think is the biggest win here.

 

[efikkan]

What new chipsets?

I was thinking of the 600 series chipsets, but that may be due next year.

I find the "business"/prosumer selection of boards is still fairly sparse compared to Intel's counterparts. I wish there were more boards with Intel networking. I guess there will be a refresh of new AMD boards when Rocket Lake arrives with 2.5 G Ethernet as standard(?).

 

[Makaveli]

I was thinking of the 600 series chipsets, but that may be due next year.

I find the "business"/prosumer selection of boards is still fairly sparse compared to Intel's counterparts. I wish there were more boards with Intel networking. I guess there will be a refresh of new AMD boards when Rocket Lake arrives with 2.5 G Ethernet as standard(?).

There will not be any new chipset for the AM4 platform.

If there is a X670 chipset it will be on AM5 and DDR5 with possibly PCIe 5.0

 

[Caring1]

I look forward to faster ram speed results, I bet DDR3 4000 would make a difference at 1080p gaming

DDR4 would be even better

 

[tygrus]

Dear TechPowerUp,
The media encoding tests don't mention the time length of the source. How long is the video(s) used during encoding?
Is there an article explaining the various tests which would include more information regarding the workloads & sources (can we replicate them or compare with elsewhere)?
These test results should have a "For more information click here" so we can find the information you don't want to repeat every single review.
Thanks,

 

[Mussels]

Or like it's been hinted before, Tpu results are a bit odd. It's not the gpu, and it's not coming from the memory, CDH, used 3200mhz dimms with the same timings, but got better results...

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TPU doesnt use in-game benchmarks, results are apples and oranges

 

[xSneak]

is the 5800x comparable to the 10900k with gaming while streaming performance?
Honestly, I'm disappointed in this release; there's not much reason to upgrade if you have intel 8th-10th gen cpus outside of getting 16 cores on a mainstream platform.

 

[Makaveli]

is the 5800x comparable to the 10900k with gaming while streaming performance?
Honestly, I'm disappointed in this release; there's not much reason to upgrade if you have intel 8th-10th gen cpus outside of getting 16 cores on a mainstream platform.

You have 4 post in almost 7 years I'm disappointed also

 

[Flinchy]

The impact on performance is irrelevant. A reference comparison should be stock.
Far too many buyers are lured into buying memory for overclocking and get unstable machines as a result, unstable either initially or gradually over time. Those of you who are not buying a computer for the purpose of overclocking, should run the memory at stock speeds, which is 3200 MHz at 1.2 V for Zen 3 (there are kits from both Kingston and Corsair capable of 3200 MHz with a JEDEC profile). Doing so will not only save you $50-100, but also save you a lot of headache, well worth it for a painless memory setup and long term stability, while sacrificing only a few percent performance. Memory overclocking is overclocking, and should be a conscious choice, and only done by those wanting to take that risk.

It's about a 10% impact on performance lol. It impacts ryzen more than intel and puts zen3 firmly on top, without any other changes.

Zero headache, 100% of chips will run 3600c16 out of the box. There will never be any instability.

 

[Zach_01]

Yeah not really happy about the price of the 5800X ($779.00NZD) here it's rather a steep increase from what my 3700X cost me (547.00NZD) for what is essentially a hotter more power hungry chip and not that large of perf boost either

What is the price of a 3800X on your local market? Because 5800X is replacing 3800X and not 3700X. Just like the 5600X to 3600X and not 3600.

 

[Caring1]

What is the price of a 3800X on your local market? Because 5800X is replacing 3800X and not 3700X. Just like the 5600X to 3600X and not 3600.

In Australia the 5800X is $699, for $30 more I can get a 3900X or for $609 a 3800XT.

 

[W1zzard]

The media encoding tests don't mention the time length of the source. How long is the video(s) used during encoding?

The video is 47 seconds, 51 MB. The audio file is 2:35:06, 1.6 GB

 

[Charcharo]

Yes and 720p benchmarks are there just for the fun of it?

Ampere's hardware scheduler is not the same as Turing's. More changes in a GPU generation per generation, not just "moar gamez fasterx XD games".
Plus PCIE4. I dont expect a massive difference though. Pascal had real issues with Zen 1 and Zen +, especially on old games, but Turing fixed almost all of them.

 

[dyonoctis]

TPU doesnt use in-game benchmarks, results are apples and oranges

That's fair enough,for some games, although The witcher 3 doesn't have an in game benchmark, but did better on CDH. Now that I look closely at the result of the other shared games, with the exception of farcry, the perf difference between intel and amd is about the same on both site. But then the other games benched are different

 

[shmuck]

I don't get the last 3 cons. In fact, I'd call some of them a plus...

 

[Charcharo]

That's fair enough,for some games, although The witcher 3 doesn't have an in game benchmark, but did better on CDH. Now that I look closely at the result of the other shared games, with the exception of farcry, the perf difference between intel and amd is about the same on both site. But then the other games benched are different

Witcher 3 is a game whose CPU performance varies by where you test.

TechPowerUp tests in White Orchard, the tutorial area of the game. That is why CPU FPS results are so insanely high there, it is a very light CPU load.
Other sites may test in different areas. Novigrad South-Eastern entrance till the city center, then north-west towards the Religious sector is much, much heavier on CPUs. It will produce different results.

Where you test is just as important as how you test

 

[W1zzard]

I don't get the last 3 cons. In fact, I'd call some of them a plus...

Excellent. That's why I'm listing them.

So YOU and everyone else of various tech knowledge levels can think about them, say "ah fuck w1zz, this doesn't matter to me". As opposed to: go to store, buy CPU and mobo, setup up everything, umm where is the heatsink? Back to store to buy cooler and install it. But now where do I plug in my monitor cable? Back to store for a 3080

 

[xSneak]

You have 4 post in almost 7 years I'm disappointed also

I don't have that strong of a motivation to post here when the for sale/trade section in the forums is so stagnant.

 

[Athlonite]

What is the price of a 3800X on your local market? Because 5800X is replacing 3800X and not 3700X. Just like the 5600X to 3600X and not 3600.

The 3800X is $689.00 so the 5800X is still quite a more expensive than that

Excellent. That's why I'm listing them.

So YOU and everyone else of various tech knowledge levels can think about them, say "ah fuck w1zz, this doesn't matter to me". As opposed to: go to store, buy CPU and mobo, setup up everything, umm where is the heatsink? Back to store to buy cooler and install it. But now where do I plug in my monitor cable? Back to store for a 6800XT

fixed that for you W1zz

 

[shmuck]

fixed that for you W1zz

If you're going down that road, "where's the motherboard"? My point is, with 3700X a cooler was forced upon me and many (I assume?) others who chose to go with a 3rd party one. Why not sell it separately at least for a high-end CPU like this and shave $10-$20 off the price? Mine has been sitting in a box for a year because I don't want to throw it away and the amount of money I'd get by selling it is not worth my time. It's just so wasteful.

A high price tag is a con however rich you are. The lack of a cooler means some will need to make an extra purchase, but others won't be left with a useless hunk of metal. That's why I think this should be listed as an advantage (or at least a neutral fact) over the last generation rather than a con, even just from an environmental standpoint.

 

[W1zzard]

and shave $10-$20 off the price?

But that's not what's happening. We're getting no cooler and paying more

 

[shmuck]

But that's not what's happening. We're getting no cooler and paying more

Right, but how do you know the price wouldn't have been higher by 20 bucks had they included the cooler?