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-The background apps affect the results. I closed most of them and had an increase in cpuz and R23.
Also in the AI Suite I managed to increase the cpu power. From 90 to 124.5 watts during multicore benchmarking in Cinebench.
Note: In R23 now I got 86 degrees after 4-5 loops and I'm on three 240 radiators....
But the cpu doesn't throttle while the water temp increased by just 1.5 degrees.

The thing is that I'm still behind in numbers.

Regarding the Windows thing. I have to admit that I'm in the worst possible position.
I have Windows 11 for almost a year now, it was upgraded from Windows 10 which was installed about 3-4 years ago...

CPUZ: 617/6180

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Most reviewers do not use cpuz. Googling you can see screenshots of 5800x3d cpuz numbers which are significantly higher than mine.
example:

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Cinebench R23: 14175 (I haven't tried the single core benchmark)

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@gffermari

CPUz ST bench mark is on par at 617 if you have Global C-States disabled .. possibly some other bios tweaks in there causing it also. What's it set at?

Those other results are from bus overclocking
 
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Should set CPU Power & VDDSOC phase controls to optimized & turn off spread spectrum under CPU VRM Switching frequency. This wouldn't make a big difference but perhaps enough in your case.
 

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CPU-Z's stock results are always higher than mine

There was also bugs with windows 11 where if you changed processor you had to reinstall windows clean to fix performance issues - i never heard back from people i suggested try an 'upgrade' install if it helped
 
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There was also bugs with windows 11 where if you changed processor you had to reinstall windows clean to fix performance issues - i never heard back from people i suggested try an 'upgrade' install if it helped
Did the Ryzen L3 bug on W11 get a final fix or just a workaround? As the L3 is the reason for the existence that could be an issue...

@gffermari have you tried clean installs of W11 and W10? Just a thought
 
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Thank you all. I tried every possible setting combination in the bios but in most cases I get a lot worse numbers. (Meaning CPUz: 590/5800 range)
I will install windows in a second ssd and check.
 
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I hope AMD makes curve optimizer available in future agesas, the 5800X3D sure needs it. Until the the pbo2 tuner tool can be quite helpful and lower temps a lot and even boost performance is cooling is not vety good.
 

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Did the Ryzen L3 bug on W11 get a final fix or just a workaround? As the L3 is the reason for the existence that could be an issue...

@gffermari have you tried clean installs of W11 and W10? Just a thought
the L3 bug got its fixes, this CPU upgrade one seems to be seperate - people kinda stopped talking about it
 
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New bios update on the way:
There's already news about this on TPU and 1.2.0.7 bioses were out a month ago.
 
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How many microcodes do they need to fix fTPM stuttering? I count 3 so far. Will 1.2.0.8 fix it as well?
 
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@chrcoluk are you up to something?
I've been on the "1.2.0.6c beta" with my 5800x3d.
 

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There's already news about this on TPU and 1.2.0.7 bioses were out a month ago.
It says V2.

Edit:
It is indeed old. My board already has this as well. Who knows why this is news then.
 
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They're getting as bad as Intel now............oh wait Intel just works.
Not illogical as Intel has dominated the market for years, well-nigh forcing MS to develop around their hardware. However, this is strongly off topic.
 
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They're getting as bad as Intel now............oh wait Intel just works.
It's like spectre didn't exist in your head, wait long enough and spectre MK2 will release, passing you an Intel microcode update that fixes stuff by tanking performance.



Now on topic I have not had these stutters with my RYZEN system despite being on windows 11 and using the allegedly enhanced security fTPM enabled etc offers, odd.
 
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Funny how it's different when it's a Intel thread though with off topic anti Intel posts, usual TPU double standards now though.
 
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Personally I'm fine with your comments, they need countering(in any thread where I disagree with you I'm there) though but troll on in this or any Intel thread it's a public forum after all, but man do you moan.
 

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How many microcodes do they need to fix fTPM stuttering? I count 3 so far. Will 1.2.0.8 fix it as well?
1.2.0.7 was the only one to ever fix the stuttering, since it was caused by 1.2.0.6 (which added the windows 11 support)


It's not like we could just disable fTPM and have it all work fine, the entire time...
 
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Fresh Windows install today.

Results:
CPUZ ST = 610-615 the mediocre cores, 621 the best core.
CPUZ MT = ~6225. I get random results every time and it doesn't follow a pattern. No matter what settings I set, the score is from 5800 up to 6225(best) while in every test it begins at 6300 and gradually decreased to a random number....5900, 6150, 6025, whatever....

R23 MT = ~4250. No matter what settings I put on BIOS, I can't get over 4200 points.

OCCT ST (SSE, AVX) = I get the lowest score for a 5800X3D - slightly behind or in front of the lowest 5800X3D score in the benchmark.
OCCT MT (SSE, AVX) = I get slightly better score than the average score of a 5800X3D.

I don't know if my RAM causes all these issues but just today I noticed that I get some weird results in OCCT.
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....at last, i managed to unleash some of its power!!!
 
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Fresh Windows install today.

Results:

R23 MT = ~4250. No matter what settings I put on BIOS, I can't get over 4200 points.
That is extremely low. The best I could do so far with the PBO curve tool was 15013.
 
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