AMD Ryzen 7 Extreme Edition "Renoir" CPU is a Silicon Puzzle

[Raevenlord]

NEC has just announced a new laptop sporting an AMD Ryzen 7 Extreme Edition CPU. The NEC Lavie N15 is only available in a single color on its AMD configuration, but there's also an Intel Core i7-10510U option available in three different color options. The interesting part about this Ryzen 7 Extreme Edition is that there's nothing even remotely extreme about it, as far as can be told: it's shipping with the exact same specifications and frequencies as the non-Extreme Ryzen 7 4800U: 8 cores, 16 threads, 1.8 GHz base and 4.2 GHz boost.

The first hints towards the existence of such a CPU surfaced back in May. At the time, the leaked Futuremark database entry which identified the CPU as a mobile Ryzen 7 Extreme Edition painted the base clock at 1.8 GHz with a 4.3 GHz Boost. Apparently, that meagre 100 MHz top frequency increase has since been scaled back. It's extremely unclear if there is any performance or power efficiency benefit to this Extreme Edition CPU (it could be a cherry-picked version with better thermal and electric characteristics than the average 4800U), or if there are some increased allowances in the TDP compared to the 15 W 4800U (typically set with TDPs of 15 W, though the cTDP supports a 10-25 W range). Or it could be just a NEC-specific version of an AMD CPU to improve market perception and reception - a rebadged 4800U, if you will.



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[BoboOOZ]

Sounds like the equivalent of the 4800HS with a ~15W TDP.

 

[Daven]

Those boost speeds should be 4.2 GHz in the first paragraph and 4.3 GHz in the second paragraph.

 

[Tomorrow]

AMD better not become the next Intel with it's Extreme branding and 1000$+ mainstream socket CPU's...

 

[ARF]

There is no competition there at all, guys. Ryzen 7 4800U is staggering 142% faster than a Core i7-10510U:

PassMark - AMD Ryzen 7 4800U - Price performance comparison

PassMark - Intel Core i7-10510U @ 1.80GHz - Price performance comparison

 

[londiste]

Why 10510U? Isn't that like lowest mobile 10-series i7?

 

[ARF]

Why 10510U? Isn't that like lowest mobile 10-series i7?

Because the price

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The Ryzen offering does come with three colours options:

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[Caring1]

Who cares about Intel, compared to the previous Gen AMD in those charts in the O.P. it's around 50% better single core and over 100% better multi in Cinebench.
Similarly fast in media encoding.

 

[R-T-B]

AMD better not become the next Intel with it's Extreme branding and 1000$+ mainstream socket CPU's...

That's pretty much how capitalism works if we don't have healthy competition..

 

[ARF]

AMD better not become the next Intel with it's Extreme branding and 1000$+ mainstream socket CPU's...

That's pretty much how capitalism works if we don't have healthy competition..

Here, Extreme Edition means extreme and top performance, not extreme heat and power consumption as is the case with Intel.
The price of this Ryzen EE is also very low.

 

[zlobby]

AMD better not become the next Intel with it's Extreme branding and 1000$+ mainstream socket CPU's...

With current intel performance it's bound to.

 

[Tomorrow]

With current intel performance it's bound to.

That's what im afraid of. The signs are there: TR3000 huge price increase and socket changes, XT refresh having lower production and shipping cost but costing the same as last years models - meaning AMD's profits increase but user gets less value. Then there's the whole Zen3 for B550 and X570 only debacle forcing user to buy a new motherboard.

 

[zlobby]

That's what im afraid of. The signs are there: TR3000 huge price increase and socket changes, XT refresh having lower production and shipping cost but costing the same as last years models - meaning AMD's profits increase but user gets less value. Then there's the whole Zen3 for B550 and X570 only debacle forcing user to buy a new motherboard.

Right! While intel brought this to themselves with their own sh*tf*ckery, it's the same movie all over again, only this time the actors have switched their places. Now intel can't produce a half-decent CPU, their designs have more holes than Swiss cheese, and AMD are charging a liver for their mainstream products. As a result we are the ones paying for Lisa's celulite.

Given how money and power corrupts everyone, I have little hope AMD will get back to sanity anytime soon. At this rate I may even be happy for Yellowstone...

 

[ARF]

Right! While intel brought this to themselves with their own sh*tf*ckery, it's the same movie all over again, only this time the actors have switched their places. Now intel can't produce a half-decent CPU, their designs have more holes than Swiss cheese, and AMD are charging a liver for their mainstream products. As a result we are the ones paying for Lisa's celulite.

Given how money and power corrupts everyone, I have little hope AMD will get back to sanity anytime soon. At this rate I may even be happy for Yellowstone...

This is wrong.

The Lavie N1585 will go up for sale in Japan on July 16 for 204,800 Yen (~US$1,900). If this model would go up for sale in the US, the price would be closer to $1,000 because Japanese prices are known to be inflated.

This for a laptop with the following specs:

AMD Ryzen 7 Extreme Edition 8-core/16-thread CPU;
15.6 inch 1080p IPS panel;
16GB of RAM;
1TB of SSD;
Bluetooth 5;
Battery: 6-7.5 hours.

NEC's LAVIE N15 Is The First Laptop To Feature The AMD Ryzen 7 Extreme Edition "Renoir" CPU

AMD's Ryzen 4000 processors launched a few months back and now, the mysterious Ryzen 7 Extreme Edition CPU has been spotted within a laptop.

wccftech.com

 

[Caring1]

As a result we are the ones paying for Lisa's celulite.

Would you say the same thing if there were a male head of AMD?

 

[R-T-B]

Here, Extreme Edition means extreme and top performance, not extreme heat and power consumption as is the case with Intel.
The price of this Ryzen EE is also very low.

I wasn't commenting on any of that.

 

[zlobby]

Would you say the same thing if there were a male head of AMD?

Eh, no. It would no doubt be just as sutpid, but it would have been tailored for a male.