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beat me to it.

I'm running my system with modified p-states giving me 4050mhz @ 1.375v max on all cores and it feels fast.

I know my nvme drive will be having an effect but even in gaming playing tom clancys wildlands I'm getting up to 70fps @4k and it feels smoother

than my haswell setup. its definatly a big improvement. more than I thought it would be. havnt been able to get my ram over 3499mhz. but I havnt really tried tbh.

I'm spending hours playing around with the p-states... :toast:
 
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Has anyone heard of a possible Gigabyte motherboard recall?

I've been reading that a number of Ryzen Gigabyte motherboards have suddenly ended up being dead. Working one day and the next dead as a door nail.

Maybe sticking to Asus and Asrock boards would be a good idea until Gigabyte says something.
 
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Has anyone heard of a possible Gigabyte motherboard recall?

I've been reading that a number of Ryzen Gigabyte motherboards have suddenly ended up being dead. Working one day and the next dead as a door nail.

Maybe sticking to Asus and Asrock boards would be a good idea until Gigabyte says something.
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Some people on the Gigabyte forums (it's not a widespread issue, a few users have posted about it) and one user over at another forum I post at. He had his motherboard just up and die and so he sent it in for RMA and they told him that they couldn't replace it, they instead gave him money to buy a new one. Very weird that they would give him money instead of replacing the board via RMA. Makes me think that there's a possible defect in Gigabyte boards.
 

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Some people on the Gigabyte forums (it's not a widespread issue, a few users have posted about it) and one user over at another forum I post at. He had his motherboard just up and die and so he sent it in for RMA and they told him that they couldn't replace it, they instead gave him money to buy a new one. Very weird that they would give him money instead of replacing the board via RMA. Makes me think that there's a possible defect in Gigabyte boards.

:kookoo:

Why?

Boards are made in limited quantities, and not all global region RMA centers have actual replacement boards yet since all boards that were made were likely sent to retailers so they could be sold. This is common for motherboards and VGAs in my experience. Since AM4 is a new platform, and they could not supply a suitable replacement since they do not have stock, the only choice they have is to refund the purchase price. This is standard practice throughout the industry.

Recall would be my LAST thought, not the first. This is how it works when the manufacturing plant is in one country, but an RMA center is "locally located" within each of the global regions. Since the RMA center doesn't make the boards, merely repairs them, they are actually very unlikely to have stock to replace items, and that's why for most retailers, they offer exchange at the store first, since stores DO have stock. Most stores are capable of processing RMAs and then get credit for the replacement board they give you. That's why going to the OEM is kind of a last-ditch attempt at warranty service for many OEMs (although there are a fair number of OEMs that ask you not return items to the store).

I have run into this myself with review samples, even, because the "local" office only gets limited numbers to give out on launch of a product, and they do tend to give out every single one they get in order to increase exposure of the product. But that only happens when dealing with reps in the US, while the companies I deal with that ship to me directly from Taiwan nearly always have a replacement (although I have had items repaired, too).

Let me put it into numbers, even. 14 million boards sold per year, OEM has 20% of market. That's 2800000 boards. But they have 140 different products, making it only 20000 boards of a particular model... meaning that nearly any board product you buy is actually kind of rare, given that there are billions of people on the planet. Of course, boards that will sell in higher numbers are produced with higher numbers, and things like halo products (such as $700 motherboards) are produced in far lower numbers... so it all balances out in the end.

It would be really silly for an RMA center, which doesn't have a storefront, and doesn't have any ability to sell things directly, to stock products and hold on to the "just in case", since this would lead to huge numbers of boards made that are never sold, and would end up in a landfill. That's a crazy thought... I'd love to see a motherboard graveyard filled with products that were never used, never unboxed...
 
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What with the massive amounts of recalls that we've seen as of late in the tech sector (Samsung Note 7, Panasonic tablet battery recall, etc.) it's not exactly hard to jump to thinking that there's going to be a massive recall. The conspiracy theorist in me jumps to that conclusion, perhaps too quick though.

Anyways, enough about that and onto some interesting videos I found showcasing the AMD Ryzen 1600.
And

The two videos show that the AMD Ryzen, despite what the naysayers think, is holding itself against the Intel Core i7 7700k quite nicely and as demonstrated in the second video it appears that the AMD Ryzen R5 1600 produces better results than the Intel chip in that it produces smoother frame rates. In other words, peak frame rate isn't all that you need to worry about; average is best to look at since if your frame rate jumps all over the place it will result in a less than ideal gaming experience.
 
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A perv's advice: Avoid those Youtube videos.

Think for yourself. Don't let others think for you.
For those of us who can't build multiple machines and pit them against each other we kind of have to rely on those videos to make a decision.
 
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Some people on the Gigabyte forums (it's not a widespread issue, a few users have posted about it) and one user over at another forum I post at. He had his motherboard just up and die and so he sent it in for RMA and they told him that they couldn't replace it, they instead gave him money to buy a new one. Very weird that they would give him money instead of replacing the board via RMA. Makes me think that there's a possible defect in Gigabyte boards.

So I was thinking about buying the gigabyte k5 (I think it's the k5), and I've read a lot of doa reviews on newegg, and it has 3 stars but has everything I need. I'm really starting to get unnerved by all the doa boards I've been reading about. Should I still get it or avoid gigabyte at all costs?
 
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my gigabyte died on like the 3rd day - ram slot went out. Went with the ASUS prime and its actually a much better and more stable board.

Also regarding that Fallout video... - He is not in a City where the AMD chips will start microstuttering; that area is smooth as silk for me. I think it has to do something with the lighting, but on my intel system everything was smooth... the AMD rig struggles a bit.
 
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Avoid those Youtube videos.


You mean THIS video :

or THIS video :

or THIs video:

or THIs video:

or THIs video:

or THIS video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83NnGQ7tC0g

or THIs video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkmyKPzCq6k

or THIs video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G80uG3acg44

or THIS video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4k_ErEg-FU

or THIs video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFfcv6H5yxY&t=2633s very long but he does not talk sht.


Or THIs video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64AmlVIosAI

Some people know exactly what are doing. A review is a review.
 
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You mean THIS video :

or THIS video :

or THIs video:

or THIs video:

or THIs video:

or THIS video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83NnGQ7tC0g

or THIs video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkmyKPzCq6k

or THIs video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G80uG3acg44

or THIS video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4k_ErEg-FU

or THIs video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFfcv6H5yxY&t=2633s very long but he does not talk sht.


Or THIs video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64AmlVIosAI

Some people know exactly what are doing. A review is a review.

Ayyyy lamo fam. Gr8 post. No h8. Also what do you think of the gigabyte k5 mobo?
 
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I only trust user reviews. I take info from those others but ultimately it will be a forum member that I look to for info.
 
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So I was thinking about buying the gigabyte k5 (I think it's the k5), and I've read a lot of doa reviews on newegg, and it has 3 stars but has everything I need. I'm really starting to get unnerved by all the doa boards I've been reading about. Should I still get it or avoid gigabyte at all costs?
So....what's the difference between this and all the dead Asus boards?
Answer: nothing.
They all have growing pains on a new platform. Buy whatever you like.
 
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So....what's the difference between this and all the dead Asus boards?
Answer: nothing.
They all have growing pains on a new platform. Buy whatever you like.
Exactly. You are smart.
As long as you have warranty they will give you the money back.
 
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Or This video:

Some people know exactly what are doing. A review is a review.
I hate to admit it but I think he's right with that video, the Core i7 7700k really is the better choice for gamers. There's no doubt about that, Ryzen just isn't good enough in the per-core IPC to be good enough for gamers. I was really hoping to go AMD but alas it's just not the right choice.

However, my upgrade plan is officially on hold. One I want to save more money up but I also want to wait for Intel Coffee Lake. There's no sense in building a new system today with a new chip soon to be released in the next coming months. I want to be up-to-date as much as I can right from the beginning.
 
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I hate to admit it but I think he's right with that video, the Core i7 7700k really is the better choice for gamers. There's no doubt about that, Ryzen just isn't good enough in the per-core IPC to be good enough for gamers. I was really hoping to go AMD but alas it's just not the right choice.

However, my upgrade plan is officially on hold. One I want to save more money up but I also want to wait for Intel Coffee Lake. There's no sense in building a new system today with a new chip soon to be released in the next coming months. I want to be up-to-date as much as I can right from the beginning.

It has roughly the same IPC mate... Kaby Lake runs at higher clocks , I think you are confusing things.

7700K is the better choice for gaming if by gaming you mean 144hz and I wonder how many gamers actually game at 144hz to justify the choice. Other than that it really isn't great value compared to a 1700 no matter how you look at it. You're paying the same price for something that gives 10-15% more performance in games at best (and keep in mind if you use a powerful GPU you are looking at 100fps+ at 1080p on either one of them) but at the same time it has half the cores and threads.

Each to their own I suppose , I understand that after such a long time where AMD has been lacking on the CPU side people feel more confident about their purchase when they see the Intel logo , but it's time to let go.
 
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It has roughly the same IPC mate... Kaby Lake runs at higher clocks , I think you are confusing things.
Yeah, the base clocks are higher than Ryzen and that's proving to be the down fall for Ryzen; the lack of a good high base clock.

Every review that I have read and every video that I have watched has proven (at least to me) that Ryzen just isn't up to the task yet. Maybe in three years when new and smaller process nodes are available it will be better because by then Ryzen will be able to clock much higher than what it currently is clocked at. It really comes down to clock speeds, games just aren't taking much advantage of a lot of cores yet so it doesn't really matter how many cores you have (sorry Ryzen); it's the clock speed that really matters in the performance of games and clock speed is where Ryzen is falling behind in.

700K is the better choice for gaming if by gaming you mean 144hz and I wonder how many people actually game at 144hz to justify the choice.
I have been researching this situation like a mad man I have disagree with that statement. Even at 1080p the 7700k is smashing the Ryzen chip.

That video proves it! 7 to 15% more frames per second! There's no arguing about numbers here, the numbers show that the 7700k is just killing it.

I understand that after such a long time where AMD has been lacking on the CPU side people feel more confident about their purchase when they see the Intel logo
Maybe it is, maybe it is the fact that it has the Intel logo that's clouding my judgement. I'm not an Intel fanboy by any means, I was really hoping for AMD to come out swinging with a home run with all bases loaded (Grand Slam) and running on all cylinders firing and able to go from 0 to 60 in under three seconds but sadly, it's just not there yet.

And if you look at AMD's stock price the market even knows this. Ryzen, even with all of its good is still not good enough. I'm even reconsidering my stance on nVidia because unless AMD Vega comes out swinging it's game over for AMD.
 
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That video proves it! 7 to 15% more frames per second! There's no arguing about numbers here, the numbers show that the 7700k is just killing it.

That video proves something. Not everything.
The variables are huge.
No one knows what a game developer will wanna do next. Will they focus on more cores, will they focus on almost naked anime girls with semi automatic shotguns :ohwell:. But they are moving slow, very slow. So slow that even if in a perfect scenario the few more cores and 20mb of cache can make a difference it will only be few more fps.
I incline for the Intel, in a desperate need to like Ryzen.

I see Ryzen as a hot young versatile woman that may not stick around for long and end up cheating on you.... and Intel as an old confident woman that you can always trust to be there for you.
Right now i am afraid to buy a Ryzen system. I keep trying to convince myself that i need an old woman.:twitch:

Be careful. At 144Hz you need mostly the GPU, not the cpu.
If you wanna know witch one is better Amd vs Intel you should be gaming 720p. Take all the stress from the gpu and let the cpu do the lifting.
Intel will do more lifting right now. It's when you wanna do more than just one single thing,where the Ryzen may shine.... but it may not shine enough.

This argument is for the poor people. If you got the money,get a sexy Ryzen system and change it again next year, or whenever you feel like it.
 
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As crazy as that sounds I kind of have to agree you @Cvrk.
 
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I'm even reconsidering my stance on nVidia because unless AMD Vega comes out swinging it's game over for AMD.
Go ahead and consider it. The Polaris RX 480 is a mess. They toked my hard earned money, NEVER again. Their not fooling me again. Vega...Wolverine , i don't care what their gonna call it. I had and still have so much trouble with this RX... the money difference was small ,next to nothing to the GTX 1070. I should have got that one!

In a perfect world i will love to see Ryzen + nVidia win it all. Who knows...
 
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Motherboard ASRock B450M Pro4
Cooling Deepcool Gammaxx L240 V2
Memory 16GB - Corsair Vengeance LPX - 3333 Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) OEM Dell GTX 1080 with Kraken G12 + Water 3.0 Performer C
Storage 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s) 4K Samsung TV
Case Deepcool Matrexx 70
Power Supply GPS-750C
Go ahead and consider it. The Polaris RX 480 is a mess. They toked my hard earned money, NEVER again. Their not fooling me again. Vega...Wolverine , i don't care what their gonna call it. I had and still have so much trouble with this RX... the money difference was small ,next to nothing to the GTX 1070. I should have got that one!

Just curios , what do you mean by "is a mess" ?
 
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