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AMD ryzen performance in WCG ?

Discussion in 'World Community Grid (WCG)' started by alexeft, Apr 2, 2017.

  1. alexeft New Member

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    Hi all,

    if you are using a ryzen processor to crunch for wcg, please post performance metrics here. Thanks :)
     
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    Wow! Do you have any power consumption figures and temps at full throttle?
     
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    I'll have to stick it on the wattmeter tomorrow and find out about power consumption. HWMonitor reckons the cpu alone is using approx 120-130w when being pushed quite hard. They're pretty efficient imo. As for temps, the temp at full load is 62-65c at 4Ghz 1.425v on custom watercooling (D5 pump, 240x45mm rad, lapped XSPC raystorm pro waterblock).

    Edit: That's the cpu diode temperature in aida64 with the 20c offset subtracted, package temp was reading ~70c.
     
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    Here are my stats since inception for the 1700

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    What cooler do you use for the 1700? Power consumption?
     
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    Using Wraith Spire that comes with the chip. Not sure about energy consumption. I know the TDP on the chip is 65W for the stock 8 cores. For the 1700x and 1800x the TDP is 95 if memory serves.
     
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    Ok, I got some more info :)

    4.0ghz 1.43v and LL3 set in bios..
    Idle 106W Load 315w from the socket.

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    EDIT: Stock settings.
    86w idle
    215-220w load
     
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    315 from the wall, thats disappointing. My E5 2683v3 pulls 185-190, granted its only at 2.5ghz, but its 28 threads.
     
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    Really nice output on those chips! :toast:

    I'm likely going to get one of the 6c/12t models to try out next month- just waiting for the reviews on them and for the mobo makers to work out some of the issues with their boards.
     
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    I still think the Xeon's are better way to go. ES chips on ebay are comparable in price to ryzen and X99 boards can be had for less than $200 for a basic but decent board. Even less if you are willing to go used. I picked up a MSI Raider for $125.

    I think Ryzen is good, not trying to knock it. I was just hoping that it would be better.
     
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    315w?! That's ... disappointing. Agree with 4x4n. Crunching is a long term commitment. Power bill matters. I learned that a very hard way when I had 10 WCG rigs a decade ago.
     
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    Has your cruncher inch been permanently scratched? If not, we'd welcome your return to the WCG on team TPU! ;) :rockout:


    I'll be grabbing a Ryzen rig eventually when I can afford it and when board choice expand a little bit. I appreciate everyone sharing their wattage numbers.
     
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    Hmmm, I kinda agree in comparison o_O

    A few things that might contribute to high power draw:
    D5 pump,
    GTX580 (idk what they consume at idle)
    VRM's are all set to 500khz and full phase (extreme) mode. They don't feel warm though so I'd be surprised if it was loosing much through the motherboard.

    4.0ghz is pushing it for WCG purposes (on this chip anyway). TBH I'd rather run an 1800x stock as it's only 300mhz less and you get to keep power saving features. I'll check the wattmeter when it's stock tomorrow perhaps.
     
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    My eyes popped out when I saw a power bill of over a grand at that time. Tried to pay the bills for few months and then Stopped and sold all units.

    Now that I have a mortgage to pay and a family to feed, I am in saving mode. Well, I spend far less than I used to.

    So, thanks but no thanks for the time being.
     
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    Ok, restarted and loaded optimized defaults.

    86w idle
    215-220w load

    That's a bit more like it.
     
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    That's better. Keep it as low as possible.
     
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    I would normally have said something like "nah, fast as possible.." But you're right. 100W for a measly 300mhz really isn't worth it. AMD have done a pretty amazing job getting them this close to the limit and somehow kept the wattage reasonable (until we play around in the bios and ruin their hard work haha).
     
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    That's one good thing I got from all the Ryzen reviews. The new chips do a great job of overclocking themselves. Everything goes to hell when we start messing with them.
     
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    I've been getting a steady supply of SCC WU's and the Raisin has been clocked at 4.1GHz for the last few days.. Yesterday it managed to net 29,154 points and was the 134th fastest host in WCG! :D Mixing it up with some many-core xeon and opteron rigs! (including Twilyth's 56 thread Xeon monster!)

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    http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=host&proj=bwcg&hostid=3834496

    http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=hosts&proj=bwcg&sort=yesterday#

    I don't mean to brag, just very happy with how it's performing! :)
     
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    Wow! Pretty impressive, What's the power draw at those clocks?

    Getting ready to get a Ryzen setup myself- was going to go with a 1600X but seeing these numbers are making me want to go for the extra $$$ for an 8 core chip
     
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    Cheers mate! Two things to consider - this is a binned chip, and the pump draws ~24W

    4.1ghz 1.40v = 292W
    4.0ghz 1.33v = 262W

    Ram @ 3200 CL14

    Stock load (3.7ghz) on the last 1800x was 220w, so without watercooling it's at ~200w. 3.7ghz all cores would be easy to get to on a 1700 with efficient voltage, should be around the same wattage, and wouldn't be getting much less PPD than this. :) I think you could do worse than to grab a 1700 and B350 board for crunching, cheap and really freakin powerful! :rockout:
     
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    Something to compare. My rig, dual E5-2683v3, draws 330w on full load. That's 28 cores at 2.5ghz.

    For long term crunching with power efficiency, xeons are probably better.
     
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    Thank you for the info. I think (as you?) that the little extra PPD doing 4.1 is not worth the extra 1/3 power consumption. I'm still tempted to replace my now retired i7-920 with a 1700(x)/B350.
     
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