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AMD Slips Out Trinity ULV 3DMark Performance

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In a footnote of a slide detailing AMD's Trinity A6 APU for Ultrathin notebooks at the company's Financial Analyst Day event, the new chip's 3DMark performance was revealed. The company was talking about the 17W ULV (ultra-low voltage) variant of the "Trinity" APU in the slide, that's designed for compact notebooks. The 3DMark Vantage performance of the APU was measured to be 2,355 points, in the same test, an Intel Core i5-2537M ULV 17W "Sandy Bridge" processor scored 1,158 points. The AMD chip, hence, emerged with a 103% graphics performance lead.

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I don't ever plan to game on an ultra portable, so as long as the integrate graphics can handle outputting to 1920x1200 to my monitor, I don't care. CPU power and battery life is what matters to me in this segment.
 
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In a footnote of a slide detailing AMD's Trinity A6 APU for Ultrathin notebooks at the company's Financial Analyst Day event, the new chip's 3DMark performance was revealed. The company was talking about the 17W ULV (ultra-low voltage) variant of the "Trinity" APU in the slide, that's designed for compact notebooks. The 3DMark performance of the APU was measured to be 2,355 points, in the same test, an Intel Core i5-2537M ULV 17W "Sandy Bridge" processor scored 1,158 points. The AMD chip, hence, emerged with a 103% graphics performance lead.

The slide notes that with an assumed performance increase of 30% by the upcoming "Ivy Bridge" architecture, its 3DMark performance is projected to be 1,505 points. The 17W Trinity chip would still end up with a 56% performance lead. Moving on, AMD even revealed the performance of the high-performance A10 "Trinity" APU with 25W TDP, designed for slightly thicker notebooks. This chip scored 3,600 points in 3DMark, which would effectively make it 136% faster than Ivy Bridge at graphics.

As for CPU performance, it's noted that Intel will clearly have an edge with performance per core, and the upper hand and single-threaded applications, while Trinity could be competitive with multi-threaded applications, as its two-module/four-core APUs will be competitively priced to Intel's two-core/four-thread(HTT) ones. AMD has pulled the presentation off from the public page of AMD-FAD.

Source: VR-Zone

You might want to mention that it's 3d Mark Vantage
 
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You don't have to strictly game on it to utilize GPU. You'd be surprised how many things use GPU these days. Browser, Adobe Flash player, video players (for HD decoding), video and image transcoders, image editors etc etc.
All this utilize GPU power as a general mean of computation.
 

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I don't use GPU acceleration for any of that. CPU encoding and decoding have better quality, and there is no gpu acceleration for 10bit encodes. The only thing that matters to me is cpu power.
 
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I don't use GPU acceleration for any of that. CPU encoding and decoding have better quality, and there is no gpu acceleration for 10bit encodes. The only thing that matters to me is cpu power.
I agree with you, but you are also on the extreme side of the spectrum. You're encoding HD movies to watch on your portable device and you are able to tell quality apart vs GPU encodes. Most people cannot.

Also to credit the post above, more and more software functionality will begin to be taken on by the GPGPU as it is inherently more efficient (read: not necessarily 'better') than CPU at performing certain crunching tasks - so 'general computing' will become more GPU dependent as software evolves.
 
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I don't ever plan to game on an ultra portable, so as long as the integrate graphics can handle outputting to 1920x1200 to my monitor, I don't care. CPU power and battery life is what matters to me in this segment.
More applications and media are being GPU accelerated though, and it can be more efficient. AMD's UVD works really well, Chrome supports GPU acceleration, flash content can be accelerated, and there's going to be more support down the road.

If AMD can get the manufacturing kinks hammered out and improve power efficiency over Llano there's no doubt in my mind that Trinity will be a home run.
 

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More applications and media are being GPU accelerated though, and it can be more efficient. AMD's UVD works really well, Chrome supports GPU acceleration, flash content can be accelerated, and there's going to be more support down the road.

If AMD can get the manufacturing kinks hammered out and improve power efficiency over Llano there's no doubt in my mind that Trinity will be a home run.
I know most dont care about IE but its fact that the latest utilizes the GPUs today
 
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Hardware accelerated text rendering, last I checked it was still the 90's when that was an issue?

Otherwise, flash, silverlight, and HTML5 is supported almost regardless of browser.

Is a game playable on it, a game that is worth playing? If not, doesn't matter, and then the only things that matter are price.
 
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I don't know about you guys, but I really hope Razer offers the option of going with a Trinity core instead of Ivy Bridge for its Fiona gaming tablet, that would make it much more desirable IMO, and give it an edge in graphics rendering.
 
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I don't know about you guys, but I really hope Razer offers the option of going with a Trinity core instead of Ivy Bridge for its Fiona gaming tablet, that would make it much more desirable IMO, and give it an edge in graphics rendering.
Most likely they will. It has been clear since LLano that AMD has a distinct advantage in GPU power over Intel. The only hope Intel has for getting that contract over AMD is to get Nvidia to co-sign with them and that is not likely to happen.

Glad to see AMD learns from its mistakes here. Marketing the performance as 2 module/4 core with a comparison to the 2 core/ 4 thread design of Intel. They need to work out GF issues as stated and working on getting performance for Bulldozer Architecture to be consistent which I have said time and time again. Consistence AMD. Being just as good 70% of the time, better 10% of the time, and absolutely destroyed 20% of the time is bad because reviewers and fanboys will focus on one set of those results. Can you guess which one?
 

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Not ever since Intel shut out Nvidia from making a Glue Logic for their Motherboards...

Most likely they will. It has been clear since LLano that AMD has a distinct advantage in GPU power over Intel. The only hope Intel has for getting that contract over AMD is to get Nvidia to co-sign with them and that is not likely to happen.

Glad to see AMD learns from its mistakes here. Marketing the performance as 2 module/4 core with a comparison to the 2 core/ 4 thread design of Intel. They need to work out GF issues as stated and working on getting performance for Bulldozer Architecture to be consistent which I have said time and time again. Consistence AMD. Being just as good 70% of the time, better 10% of the time, and absolutely destroyed 20% of the time is bad because reviewers and fanboys will focus on one set of those results. Can you guess which one?
 
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Now this is interesting. Will they be releasing Trinity for the desktop too?
Good to see AMD focusing on strategy. This should enable them to sort out its issues without slowing down production.
 
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Finally. People will soon have a choice and don't have to rely on VLC player for gaming.
 
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I don't ever plan to game on an ultra portable, so as long as the integrate graphics can handle outputting to 1920x1200 to my monitor, I don't care. CPU power and battery life is what matters to me in this segment.
you mean you will stick to intel no matter what crap they trow at you :p
 
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Now this is interesting. Will they be releasing Trinity for the desktop too?
Good to see AMD focusing on strategy. This should enable them to sort out its issues without slowing down production.
Yes. Desktop part should be quite exciting.
 

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Well, imo, this is really cool.
 
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my 9600m gt have 2200 points in 3dmark vantage :)
Now image a tablet like the Transformer or Motorola Atrix with enough power to actually play a game or two at say 1366 x 768. Now impressive for us, but to run that resolution for Bad Company 2 on medium/High at solid FPS under 25W is kinda ridiculous.

Now this is interesting. Will they be releasing Trinity for the desktop too?
Oh they most definitely will. This was actually one of th reasons a lot of people were pissed because AMD will have a distinct line drawn between consumer desktops/portable products and their high end stuff. Before you could get all the high end parts with an entry level CPU and then update just the CPU later. Now you have to make a distinct choice up front.

I hope the A8 Trinity APUs have enough muscle to run up to two mid-ranged cards in CrossfireX so those who chose that path don't have to start from scratch if they want a gaming setup.
 
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The other day I was playing around with a core i5 laptop and it wasn't 100% smooth when playing certain youtube videos. I could notice it instantly. A variant of the same model sporting a discrete card solved the problem. No matter how small the discrete card is, its often a good choice to have it (at least if you are not satisfied with intel gfx)
 
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Honestly AMD should go back to the Athlon XP Modeling setup. You had Duron/Sempron, Athlon XP/XP-M and the Athlon MP, All Socket A/462. It would reduce overall costs but also Allow Improvements in the APU designs while reducing Package Complexities. Also the current A75Chipset supports 8x8 Crossfire or 16x4.

Now image a tablet like the Transformer or Motorola Atrix with enough power to actually play a game or two at say 1366 x 768. Now impressive for us, but to run that resolution for Bad Company 2 on medium/High at solid FPS under 25W is kinda ridiculous.



Oh they most definitely will. This was actually one of th reasons a lot of people were pissed because AMD will have a distinct line drawn between consumer desktops/portable products and their high end stuff. Before you could get all the high end parts with an entry level CPU and then update just the CPU later. Now you have to make a distinct choice up front.

I hope the A8 Trinity APUs have enough muscle to run up to two mid-ranged cards in CrossfireX so those who chose that path don't have to start from scratch if they want a gaming setup.
 

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More applications and media are being GPU accelerated though, and it can be more efficient. AMD's UVD works really well, Chrome supports GPU acceleration, flash content can be accelerated, and there's going to be more support down the road.

If AMD can get the manufacturing kinks hammered out and improve power efficiency over Llano there's no doubt in my mind that Trinity will be a home run.
Don't care. If the CPU can do it smoothly, the GPU does not concern me in the slightest, so long as it's capable of outputting to the resolutions I want.
you mean you will stick to intel no matter what crap they trow at you :p
No, I mean that in an ultraportable, I will always take more CPU power over more GPU power. I don't want to game on a laptop of this size, so GPU power is completely irrelevant when the CPU is already enough to do what is needed for me.

If I were to buy in this segment, I would take the one that gives me the best cpu power/battery life/cost ratio. Don't know who that is, and don't care, so long as it does what I want.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy lesser performing products for the sake of a brand name. I buy the best performance for my money, period. I am 100% unconcerned with the corporate angle of any of these competitors. I only care about the product and what it does for me.
 
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#25
And that's why humans are in a continual downward spiral.

Who cares about the moral, legal or ethical implications of XYZ. IT'S ALL ABOUT ME GD IT!