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AMD Talks Improved Ryzen Memory Support, Ryzen 3, and Game Optimization

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  1. btarunr

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    AMD, in an interview with Forbes, confirmed that it is working to improve DDR4 memory support of its Ryzen series processors, to enable higher memory clocks. AMD Ryzen users find it difficult to get DDR4 memory clocks to run above 3000 MHz reliably. With memory clock being linked with the chip's Infinity Fabric clock (the interconnect between two CCX units on the "Summit Ridge" silicon), the performance incentives for higher memory clocks are just that much more.

    AMD confirmed that its AGESA update for May improves DDR4 memory compatibility, although it also stressed on the need for motherboard manufacturers to improve their board designs in the future, with more PCB layers and better copper traces between the DIMM slots and the SoC socket. The company assures that more updates to AGESA are in the pipeline, and would improve performance of Ryzen processors at various levels. The AGESA updates are dispensed through motherboard vendors as BIOS updates.

    The company also talked at length about game optimization, and how it has a dedicated team tasked to work with game studios on improving game performance on Ryzen processors, particularly at lower resolutions such as 1080p. At 1080p, today's games begin to get CPU-limited, and this is one area where Ryzen processors are losing ground to Intel Core processors. AMD has already worked with Oxide Games to improve Ryzen machines' performance with "Ashes of the Singularity," and is working to improve 1080p performance of other titles such as "Total War: Warhammer" and "DOTA 2." AMD also credits the recent Ryzen-balanced power plan, introduced through a chipset driver update, to improve performance in games by another 5-10 percent, which hands power-management from the OS over to CPU silicon-level Precision Boost features.

    AMD also dispelled some misconceptions about the 20°C temperature offset noticed with Ryzen "X" series processors (eg: 1800X, 1600X). The Ryzen Master software places a 20°C temperature offset, which had some enthusiasts thinking that the "X" series processors have a lower throttling temperature. AMD clarified that the temperature offset never affected thermal throttling on these processors, and that it has updated Ryzen Master software to show the correct temperature.

    AMD touched upon the lack of mini-ITX socket AM4 motherboards. While acknowledging the market successes of the recent mini-ITX motherboards by BIOSTAR, which are based on the X370 and B350 chipsets, AMD hinted that the broader availability of mini-ITX motherboards could be linked to its upcoming X300 chipset. Given that the mini-ITX form-factor mandates fewer expansion slots, onboard devices, and storage connectivity, the form-factor can make do with the SATA and USB ports put out directly by socket AM4 Ryzen processors, given that they are full-fledged SoCs. The X300 chipset lacks bandwidth-heavy downstream connectivity of its own, and only has the low-bandwidth machinery to keep the platform running. It also has extremely low thermal and power requirements that make it perfect for mini-ITX.

    Lastly, AMD talked about the roll-out of its cost-effective Ryzen 3-series processors. The company is looking to launch quad-core and perhaps even dual-core Ryzen 3-series processors based on the "Summit Ridge" silicon, by Q3-2017 (after June). Ryzen 3 quad-core chips differ from Ryzen 5 series quad-core chips such as the Ryzen 5 1400, in that they lack SMT. Find the full interview in the link below.

    Source: Forbes
     
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    What's AGESA?
     
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    Optimisations...

    Hmm. Prey crashes on me occasionally and it's hardly stressful.
     
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    AMD Generic Encapsulated Software Architecture, basically the code that responsible for initialization of the processor core complex, uncore, memory, etc.
     
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    ryzen 3 is priced higher than it should and will not be competitive vs g4560 and i3 7100.
    i don't no what amd's marketing staff are smoking putting that price tag on the ryzen 3 .
     
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    care to share how much the price tag is?
     
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    You mean a true quad core priced higher than a hyperthreaded dual core? Gee, I wonder why that might be...
     
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    Prey working on Ryzen with GTX970.
    Prey working on Ryzen with 290X.

    user error :)
     
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    Crosshair VI APEX / X370M OC Formula:)
     
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    if you are on a budget with light gaming or no gaming i3 7100 in the same price is much better bargain ,it has higher single core performance and has a gpu , office and other apps will run faster .
     
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    If you'll have to replace it sooner because it won't age well, that's not a bargain... But people are too short sighted by a fancy lower initial price...
     
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    i didn't get your point are you saying that intel's cpu age and amd don't?
     
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    Two more real cores. Same IPC. Basically the same clock. Do your math dude. HT gives you around 30% gain at best. 2 extra physical cores give you essentially 100% more performance. This aren't Bulldozer times anymore.
     
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    Where you getting the so-called higher prices from?
     
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    Do you know some insider information here? Since there has been no official announcement with regards to pricing, your statement is quite strange.
     
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    i3 7100 has higher clock and intel ipc is 10% better so you end up 20% + for intel single core,if you want to overclock the r3 you will have to pay more for b350 motherboard . only ryzen 1600 and 1700 are good option anything less like the r3 is not tempting .for office and home usage 4 core have no added value.
     
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    10% higher are you kidding me? no it's not in a lot of cases with Ryzen being 600-800mhz lower clocked it is within 10% of comparable intel processors so if anything Ryzen has better IPC than intels current and would probably wipe the floor with them if they could reach 4.5ghz+ and you saying about overclocking, you're not comparing like for like as you cant overclock i3's unless you buy the ridiculously priced K version which for the same price you could buy a Ryzen 1500x which would also wipe the floor with it.
     
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    here is a techpowerup table since you did see it from February 23rd
    ryzen.jpg
     
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    prices are already out of date so this from February is really irrelevant unless AMD are going to price the 1300 more than the current cost of a 1400 and nearly the same cost as a 1500X......
     
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    You can't OC the i3 7100 even if you want to...I think it's locked for OC, I don't think there will be a very visible difference in single core performance. I agree with the fact that the i3 comes with an igp and that matters at this price range
     
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    i never said the i3 can be overclocked ,you mixed r3 with an i3 read again.
     
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    You're the one who mentioned overclocking, if anything the fact the R3 can makes it better IF you want that option, it's not like you have to, you slated that as a bad thing as you would have to buy a b350 board.... Edit: obviously on ignore as not one reply to any of my comments :laugh:
     
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    you really twist things up , in order for an amd's r3 to reach the same clock as intel's i3 you will need to overclock it using a b350 motherboard and ending up paying more and ending up with 10% lower performance for single core. b350 motherboards cost more than an intel's h110 mobo
     
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    I really want to see how much of a critical difference that 10% makes :)
     
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    10% isn't much but you will have to pay more to reach it .using an a320m mobo without overclocking you will pay the same price as for intel+h110 mobo but end up 20% slower single core and no gpu that will cost you more.
     

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