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AMD to Slash Radeon RX 5700 "Navi" Series Prices Ahead of Launch: $399 & $349

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Intel starts with lowering prizes, then Nvidia screws all RTX folks with Super, and now even before launch AMD is lowering prizes.
I feel the 570x mobo is a way overprized product now, i like it less and less.
2070 and 2080 were bad buy from the start so I guess Nvidia is screwing the tiniest amount of customers here lol. Anyways it's just the way of progress, GTX 1080 were selling for 650usd then reduced to 500usd in less than a year. Rarely you would get something like the 1080Ti where the price/perf is so good for a highest end product.
 
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This is actually important for me as I was looking at the 2070 super... now will probably lean towards the 5700 xt.
 
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This is great news if true.
Definitely wouldn't get a reference blower because of the noise but it would be really interesting to see where Sapphire's Nitro lands pricewise — though it really needs to comfortably beat 2060S in most games to be viable, especially considering Nvidia's bundle of Control and Youngblood is way more attractive than 3 months of game pass, and that's without that continuing conversation about whether a ticket for some basic DXR @1080p is worth it.

And, I hate to break it to some people, but that magic 260$ vega56 doesn't exist in many markets. Here in Russia even the Airboost is hovering around 310-320$ while 1660ti and 2060 are often available below their msrp at 265$ and 330$ respectively for Palit's single-cooler SKUs.
 

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and you would still pay 399 for something that costs 199. the only thing to lean for is the RTX die shrink and boycott everything until then. regardless of the price, even 999 is ok. for 500 sqmm chip., cmon you are wasting thousands of productive hours per year in front of the PC gaming and are somehow contemplating saving 99$ on a video card. the money is gone deal with it. the time is gone. but you saved measely 99$. great.
 
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Most sane people:

Yay better pricing! Win for us consumers!




Meanwhile here is what a tool says:

So, 5700 is faster than 2060 Super, consumes less power and costs 5% less, but still needs "price fixing" eh? Because of that DXR, that works in less than 1% of the titles and weven where it does, most users disable it on 2060?

Dear AMD, please DO NOT drop prices on already reasonably priced 5700 and 5700XT.
Instead, make attractive bundles for users going all AMD.
 
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I want to see some Triple Crossfire - - for old times sake :}
Question - I haven't ran AMD cards for probably 6-8 years, so I am curious - do all AMD cards support multi gpu these days? I haven't kept up on their architecture with regard to multi gpu support.

Thanks.
 
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I feel the 570x mobo is a way overprized product now, i like it less and less.
Lol what?!
No one's forcing you to buy them. X470 exists and works.
 
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That is a 30% perf/W difference.
Except voltage/frequency scaling is entirely non-linear, let alone comparable across different process nodes. And besides, even if we're talking about a 30% perf/W improvement from the node alone, the Vega 64 scored 56% perf/W compared to the RTX 2070FE, yet now AMD is supposedly slightly ahead? If that turns out to be true, they've made some major architectural efficiency strides since Vega. That would be a major feather in RDNA's cap.
 
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Yay better pricing! Win for us consumers!
There are consumers who want cheaper AMD cards, to buy cheaper AMD cards. For those AMD bundles would work.
Then there are consumers who want cheaper AMD cards, to buy cheaper nVidia cards. Those are welcome to vote with their wallet instead, or bend over again, whatever works best.
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I want to see some Triple Crossfire - - for old times sake :}
Question - I haven't ran AMD cards for probably 6-8 years, so I am curious - do all AMD cards support multi gpu these days? I haven't kept up on their architecture with regard to multi gpu support.

Thanks.
Triple CrossFireX is still supported, I think, as long as AMD keeps making the required profiles. But it's only for DX11 and older.

DX12 software requires mGPU support to be built into the code. If the developer won't support it, then there is little you can do.
 
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Triple CrossFireX is still supported, I think, as long as AMD keeps making the required profiles. But it's only for DX11 and older.

DX12 software requires mGPU support to be built into the code. If the developer won't support it, then there is little you can do.
Gotcha, thanks much for the response.
 
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Finally the time has come when an upgrade will give me double the fps without stepping into crazy prices of high end cards, I'll be waiting for the reviews on July 7th.
 
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multi card is bad, you get 3x delay from input per frame for a 2x increase in number of frames and that only in the good case of 2 cards, I don't know how mutch worse it is on 3 cards
directx 12 and vulkan have several multi card modes, some games like ashes singularity use one of them but it's the wrong one they are using, so far I think no game uses the one mode that is important :x
 
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AMD can't catch a break, having to lower their prices before they even release their new products?

That's a vicious cycle they need to break, can't continue trying to simply catch up, who here remembers when they would be the ones pulling the rug from under Nvidia with cards that defied what people could expect for their price bracket?

Cards like the 9700 Pro, the X800XT, the 7970, and the 290X, those were all faster than the best Nvidia had at the time, and at reasonable prices.

I know it's not easy to come up with an architectural change that can be revolutionary, with graphic cards being such complex beasts, but settling for 2nd best will always hurt the bottom line.

They have to aim straight to the top, and sink Nvidia's flagship, remember when the R9 290X was released for almost half the price as a Titan? I sure as hell remember, that was a day one purchase for me, and actually the last AMD cards I ever bought.

They need to find that mojo again, or we'll be caught up in this never ending cycle of paying crazy high prices for top of the line Nvidia cards because there's nothing to compete with them.

And yes, I know I sunk over $1.3k for my Nvidia card, but I would've happily paid less than that if AMD had anything that offered the same or higher level of performance like they did in the past.

Make it happen again AMD, and you'll win me and a hell lot more costumers over again, bring back the glory days of great Ati and great AMD cards.
 
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AMD can't catch a break, having to lower their prices before they even release their new products?

That's a vicious cycle they need to break, can't continue trying to simply catch up, who here remembers when they would be the ones pulling the rug from under Nvidia with cards that defied what people could expect for their price bracket?

Cards like the 9700 Pro, the X800XT, the 7970, and the 290X, those were all faster than the best Nvidia had at the time, and at reasonable prices.

I know it's not easy to come up with an architectural change that can be revolutionary, with graphic cards being such complex beasts, but settling for 2nd best will always hurt the bottom line.

They have to aim straight to the top, and sink Nvidia's flagship, remember when the R9 290X was released for almost half the price as a Titan? I sure as hell remember, that was a day one purchase for me, and actually the last AMD cards I ever bought.

They need to find that mojo again, or we'll be caught up in this never ending cycle of paying crazy high prices for top of the line Nvidia cards because there's nothing to compete with them.

And yes, I know I sunk over $1.3k for my Nvidia card, but I would've happily paid less than that if AMD had anything that offered the same or higher level of performance like they did in the past.

Make it happen again AMD, and you'll win me and a hell lot more costumers over again, bring back the glory days of great Ati and great AMD cards.
9700Pro was good. X800 lost on the feature support side as well as performance.

Good GPU needs good GPU design talent as well as healthy R&D budget. It will happen in the future. RDNA is a good direction. You just need to wait.
 
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Just wait till and reviews pop up on the 7th...then we all have crystal picture where everyone is at. For now just enjoy price drops. Don't fear it embrace it:)
 
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There are consumers who want cheaper AMD cards, to buy cheaper AMD cards. For those AMD bundles would work.
Then there are consumers who want cheaper AMD cards, to buy cheaper nVidia cards. Those are welcome to vote with their wallet instead, or bend over again, whatever works best.
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You act like bundles are the same as saved money. They're not. Often, they're a waste. I don't think anything approaching 100% of people who buy an AMD card enjoy or use the bundle. And with AMD and nVidia both trying their damnedest to keep people from recouping the bundle's resale value by locking people into bundles they may not necessarily want...

...your argument doesn't really hold up. If you get a turd in a box with compliments from AMD, that doesn't mean you got a deal on your GPU at MSRP. It means you got a turd in a box that isn't worth...

No, bundles do not make up for higher MSRP's. If you want AMD to go out of business in GPU's, keep arguing for them not to beat the price of the competition that's ahead in the gimmicks and close enough to the same in performance to make the gimmicks matter again. AMD's the guy coming late to the party. Of course, he's got to lose some money to get back in the groove...
 
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Lol the Pre-emptive Strike Back. @Vya Domus what was that again about changing the game and not playing the value game?

What's next, Nvidia? Some sanity perhaps? Now thát would be SUPER.

There are consumers who want cheaper AMD cards, to buy cheaper AMD cards. For those AMD bundles would work.
Then there are consumers who want cheaper AMD cards, to buy cheaper nVidia cards. Those are welcome to vote with their wallet instead, or bend over again, whatever works best.
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I don't know about those bundles man, I never managed to buy dinner with them or pay rent. And mommy taught me not to take candy from strangers, especially if its free :laugh:

That said, you're not wrong about this! This is actually how it works in most people's minds. People do buy the cheapest product that gives the highest performance/does the job best. That explains the current market share very well, and its good to recognize that.

AMD can't catch a break, having to lower their prices before they even release their new products?

That's a vicious cycle they need to break, can't continue trying to simply catch up, who here remembers when they would be the ones pulling the rug from under Nvidia with cards that defied what people could expect for their price bracket?

Cards like the 9700 Pro, the X800XT, the 7970, and the 290X, those were all faster than the best Nvidia had at the time, and at reasonable prices.

I know it's not easy to come up with an architectural change that can be revolutionary, with graphic cards being such complex beasts, but settling for 2nd best will always hurt the bottom line.

They have to aim straight to the top, and sink Nvidia's flagship, remember when the R9 290X was released for almost half the price as a Titan? I sure as hell remember, that was a day one purchase for me, and actually the last AMD cards I ever bought.

They need to find that mojo again, or we'll be caught up in this never ending cycle of paying crazy high prices for top of the line Nvidia cards because there's nothing to compete with them.

And yes, I know I sunk over $1.3k for my Nvidia card, but I would've happily paid less than that if AMD had anything that offered the same or higher level of performance like they did in the past.

Make it happen again AMD, and you'll win me and a hell lot more costumers over again, bring back the glory days of great Ati and great AMD cards.
Its unfortunately a vicious cycle half the internet warned them for when they told us they were going to 'dominate the midrange' with Polaris... and I think they really knew this was going to happen, GPU division had to keep running and it had to cost as little as possible. This is the result.
 
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AMD can't catch a break, having to lower their prices before they even release their new products?

That's a vicious cycle they need to break, can't continue trying to simply catch up, who here remembers when they would be the ones pulling the rug from under Nvidia with cards that defied what people could expect for their price bracket?

Cards like the 9700 Pro, the X800XT, the 7970, and the 290X, those were all faster than the best Nvidia had at the time, and at reasonable prices.
Only the 9700 Pro was faster for a noteworthy amount of time, not even being beaten by the 5800 ultra 6 months later, all others were equal (X800Xt + lacking Shader model 3.0) or just released slightly ahead; 7970 was beaten bloody just 2 months later by the 680 and 290x wasn't even faster than the then almost year old 780 when both were OCed, not to even mention the Titan and the 780TI just 2 weeks later. AMD has been nothing but a follower for more than a decade now (a very poor one in the last 5 years)
 
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9700Pro was good. X800 lost on the feature support side as well as performance.

Good GPU needs good GPU design talent as well as healthy R&D budget. It will happen in the future. RDNA is a good direction. You just need to wait.
Inclined to agree. Too bad its yet another waiting game.
 
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