AMD "Vega" Demoed in Sonoma, California

[HD64G]

Something that could help us position this chip IF it gets +10% faster than 1080 in Doom Vulcan 4K in ultra settings is that RX480 is 10% faster than 1060 6GB in Doom Vulcan 4K in @W1zzard reviews and loses by it by 3-4% in total average of all games in 4K. So, Vega 10 could easily be on par or just below with 1080 in FPS on average even without many arch changes. Or, AMD decided to lower the clocks in this demo to not fully uncover its potential as we have at least a few weeks until they send it to reviewers.

 

[cdawall]

Vega 11 is supposed to be in the same space as Polaris 10, so I'm starting to expect a number jump from 4xx to 5xx (or something else new.

I thoughy Vega 11 road maps to the 490 spot and 10 the fury?

 

[the54thvoid]

I thoughy Vega 11 road maps to the 490 spot and 10 the fury?

Hell man, did you miss future tech 101? Graphics roadmaps are like reading tea leaves - a wee bit messy. They make them us as they go along to suit investors. Nvidia are awesome at it... Pascal - what Pascal?

 

[LightningJR]

How is this possible, even GTX 1080 makes max 52FPS @ 4K resolution -

The trick is the usual AMD hype machine: Either leave out significant, pertinent information or leave out significant pertinent information.

For anyone that actually has doom, it doesn't have a benchmark tool.

This means review site numbers are not comparable directly, and AMD can cater this 'sample' to whatever they want.

Because here's my 980Ti @ 4k ultra:

http://i.imgur.com/diFvE7i.jpg

I don't believe any 'astonishing' numbers until it's in at least w1zz's hands.

Bonus Vulkan screenie:

http://i.imgur.com/xMEkWxe.jpg

^this. There's no benchmark so it'll be up to reviewers to give us proper comparable results with timed runs in the same areas and situations.

Plus my 1070 is overclocked pretty good, nearly 2ghz on the core and +500 on th memory. (with the core barely budging from that clock)

 

[Nergal]

Whatever it´s speed may be, it´s clear it will most likely beat the 1070. Forcing a drop in pricing for that card, and logically, also for the 1080, the 1060 and the 480. Bringing excellent cards for 1080P below the 200$ price ranges.

Hype train or not. They can´t release statements and be off by 50%.
So if they try to compare it with the 1080; you can be sure it will be better than the 1070.
They also are not going to release something that competes with their own Fury. Else they couldv´e just re-released the Fury with the new Ramtype???

=> What´s real important here is that is becoming very clear that AMD is back on par with it´s competitors. This means pricedrops for everyone and some healthy challenges to intel/NVidia. Something we should all agree on is a good thing.

 

[NDown]

This performance is very close to what I get on my overclocked 1070. Was just playing with the Doom demo today too bad Vulcan lowers FPS at 4k for me

How is this possible, even GTX 1080 makes max 52FPS @ 4K resolution -

The mystery continues

 

[TheDeeGee]

But what about 99.99% of the other games that use DX9 and DX11?

 

[cdawall]

But what about 99.99% of the other games that use DX9 and DX11?

Consoles use AMD GCN products, I would bet the future holds more DX12 and Vulkan applications since it can squeeze more performance out of the consoles.

 

[Nergal]

But what about 99.99% of the other games that use DX9 and DX11?

Also, those games require less juice to play on high settings.

New decent games will have DX12.

 

[EarthDog]

Vulkan enabled titles.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_Vulkan_support

Not sure what else is on the way...

Also, those games require less juice to play on high settings.

It... it really doesn't work that way.

 

[ADHDGAMING]

I replied to this notion of yours before - Vega 11 is (according to most sites and leaks) the smaller chip. Just like Polaris 10 (RX 480) and 11 (RX470 and 460). Other sites also suggested the price will be similar to the GTX 1080. Look at AMD's past releases now.

7970 matched 680
Fury X matched 980ti

There is a precedent now for AMD to match the pricing structure of Nvidia.

Don't get me wrong, I want Vega to come in at DX11 equal to a 1080, but far superior at DX12 and Vulkan and be £100 cheaper.

EDIT: if Vega matches 1080 and AMD price it the same, AMD become absolutely complicit in the ridiculous pricing of gfx cards. But if Vega beats the 1080 - they can sell it for MORE..... not good.

correct AMD names their chips by which was in dev 1st .. they build the big ones 1st and then cut them down .. so 10 is always the big one

 

[TheDeeGee]

Vulkan enabled titles.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_Vulkan_support

Not sure what else is on the way...

It... it really doesn't work that way.

And only 4 of them on PC.

 

[renz496]

Whatever it´s speed may be, it´s clear it will most likely beat the 1070. Forcing a drop in pricing for that card, and logically, also for the 1080, the 1060 and the 480. Bringing excellent cards for 1080P below the 200$ price ranges.

Hype train or not. They can´t release statements and be off by 50%.
So if they try to compare it with the 1080; you can be sure it will be better than the 1070.
They also are not going to release something that competes with their own Fury. Else they couldv´e just re-released the Fury with the new Ramtype???

=> What´s real important here is that is becoming very clear that AMD is back on par with it´s competitors. This means pricedrops for everyone and some healthy challenges to intel/NVidia. Something we should all agree on is a good thing.

back in january AMD also give us the impression that polaris 11 will going to be faster than GTX950. while they capped the performance to the same level of 950 to show polaris 11 is more power efficient than 950 at the same performance they also hint the final product going to be better than what they show us.

 

[Camm]

Vulkan enabled titles.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_Vulkan_support

Not sure what else is on the way...

It... it really doesn't work that way.

Everyone went DX12 for some reason - that has 36 titles in the pipeline for next year. Its odd.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Everyone went DX12 for some reason - that has 36 titles in the pipeline for next year. Its odd.

Wait till M$ starts pumping money in DX12, so they can further suppress PC gaming with that garbage. They want to piss you off, so you buy an xbox.

Their actions more than support my claim.

 

[EarthDog]

Everyone went DX12 for some reason - that has 36 titles in the pipeline for next year. Its odd.

Yet everyone is holding out hope for Polaris/Vega that Vulkan will save it...to me, they are lucky they have tweaked several percent improvement out of the drivers...well done! blBut Vulcan isn't going to save it unless some dogs like up support for some major titles.

 

[Camm]

Yet everyone is holding out hope for Polaris/Vega that Vulkan will save it...to me, they are lucky they have tweaked several percent improvement out of the drivers...well done! blBut Vulcan isn't going to save it unless some dogs like up support for some major titles.

Being fair, AMD's gains in non gameworks DX12 titles spanks Nvidia as % performance increase atm anyway, so its not a huge deal. But you would think that being able to more easily target PS4, OSX, Linux, etc on top of Windows+XB1 would have driven higher Vulkan adoption.

 

[ValenOne]

back in january AMD also give us the impression that polaris 11 will going to be faster than GTX950. while they capped the performance to the same level of 950 to show polaris 11 is more power efficient than 950 at the same performance they also hint the final product going to be better than what they show us.

RX-460 is not the full Polaris 11.

 

[Assimilator]

Everyone's getting hyped over Vega allegedly beating GTX 1080... I'm just sitting here waiting for Pascal 2.0 to arrive.

 

[Camm]

RX-460 is not the full Polaris 11.

People have been unlocking them to full P11's though. Which is strange.

 

[iTile]

While everyone is talking speeds, even Fury X does 60+ fps.. We wont know shit until this thing is released. Until then even the genuine leak benchmarks are unusable.

Hexus do use Vulkan API for their testing.

Same site different scores