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So.. I'm sure it's been mentioned, what is going on with AMD's sockets in the near future? I don't see a switch to FM2 as it is less pins than AM3+ and I assume some of those pins are limited to the on chip GPU.
In the past I believe it took INTEL approx: 2 years to addopt DDR. At that time they were using Rambus RAM. AMD started using DDR I think in the year 2000 with the Athlon CPU's. So my original point was perhaps AMD will wait for DDR4 prices to fall and continue to use DDR3 or they will develope a IMC that supports both DDR3/4 for Socket AM4?..

Now I really need to stay away from that Irish Whiskey :laugh: I'm sticking to Greek Ouzo next time. :D

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In the past I believe it took AMD 2 years before they went from DDR to DDR2. Probably overall price played a role in that, and I believe it took AMD 1 year from DDR2 to DDR3.

What I meant to say is Intel supported DDR2 2 years before AMD did and 1 year DDR3 before AMD did :D
I think you quoted the wrong person. :confused:
 

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which interestingly would be easily serviced just out of one binning of an APU, the (binned)ones where the GPU doesnt work and the cores clock well and even better minus the gpu heat, all would equal your enthusiast cpu of the future to me.
Isn't Intel already doing this? There are [either active or disabled] GPUs in every current Intel CPU, AFAIK.
(Of course, I might be mistaken.)
 
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Thats kind of my point Vinska, its allready being done and Amd will do it too, oh and though comercial intel cpu's are as you say, i doubt that xeons and the like have any gpu in them, what with the core count , use etc.
 
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Isn't Intel already doing this? There are [either active or disabled] GPUs in every current Intel CPU, AFAIK.
(Of course, I might be mistaken.)
Yes they are doing just that and still they overclock very well. I can see AMD doing the same thing along the whole line of CPUs.
 
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Good News, an internal source claims: (ATInsider) has posted on Fudzilla that the upcoming Piledriver is on average 15% to 20% faster than Bulldozer. He states it will be a combination of both minor tweaks/modifications and clock speeds. He states the clock rate is more effective than Bulldozer's such as if you OC it you will see a gain better performance gain, even with a mild 200MHz to 400MHz. Bulldozer.
I believe we did not see that much of a performance boost with OC'ing unless we aggressively OC'ed it. For me I took my Bulldozer with all 8-cores to 4.40 GHz with a mild bump in vCore. Now I am interested in Piledriver, who knows, if the price is right, I may bite into it.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2204765/amd-vishera-chip-running-at-5ghz-is-spotted
 
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Good News, an internal source claims: (ATInsider) has posted on Fudzilla that the upcoming Piledriver is on average 15% to 20% faster than Bulldozer. He states it will be a combination of both minor tweaks/modifications and clock speeds. He states the clock rate is more effective than Bulldozer's such as if you OC it you will see a gain better performance gain, even with a mild 200MHz to 400MHz. Bulldozer.
I believe we did not see that much of a performance boost with OC'ing unless we aggressively OC'ed it. For me I took my Bulldozer with all 8-cores to 4.40 GHz with a mild bump in vCore. Now I am interested in Piledriver, who knows, if the price is right, I may bite into it.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2204765/amd-vishera-chip-running-at-5ghz-is-spotted
internal source from who?
 
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I don't know his name is ATInsider, you know insider :confused:
But the article states the obvious anyway.
oh ok, well this to me is still speculation.

Grain of Salt for me till reviewers are given the Green to pull the NDA off.

CPUs have to be fast in todays apps as well as tomorrows.
 
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oh ok, well this to me is still speculation.

Grain of Salt for me till reviewers are given the Green to pull the NDA off.

CPUs have to be fast in todays apps as well as tomorrows.
Yes a big grain of salt. I can't wait for some reviews. :D

Wow, you are still on the AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ very nice, and I am sure it's been serving you very well. Ahh, the good old Athlon XP days.
 

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Yes a big grain of salt. I can't wait for some reviews. :D

Wow, you are still on the AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ very nice, and I am sure it's been serving you very well. Ahh, the good old Athlon XP days.
Ya true. When things are golden for me ill build something considerably faster. X1950 Pro is held back by the XP machine.
 
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Ya true. When things are golden for me ill build something considerably faster. X1950 Pro is held back by the XP machine.
WOW, :laugh: you still have an original ATI Radeon, very nice indead, what a classic :toast:

Who knows, perhaps Steamroller will be your next upgrade :D DDR3 Memory is dirt cheap, you can easily get 16GB to 32GB and even 64GB Dual-Channel, but DDR4 being more expensive when released I believe should offer much more benefits. It all depends on whether Excavator and/or Steamroller will be DDR4 with new socket or DDR3 with the same AM3+. You obviously don't mind waiting ;)
 

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WOW, :laugh: you still have an original ATI Radeon, very nice indead, what a classic :toast:

Who knows, perhaps Steamroller will be your next upgrade :D DDR3 Memory is dirt cheap, you can easily get 16GB to 32GB and even 64GB Dual-Channel, but DDR4 being more expensive when released I believe should offer much more benefits. It all depends on whether Excavator and/or Steamroller will be DDR4 with new socket or DDR3 with the same AM3+. You obviously don't mind waiting ;)
i honestly dont care because I built my Bros AM3+ machine with 970 Extreme 4 AsRock and a 6770 (Bulldozer-Which proved to be a sidegrade at best)- I put in a X2 555 BE for that machine and I unlocked it with stock cooling (Runs quiet actually less room temp reaches 80+), 8 GB Ram and its running as fast as it did a year ago but i finally drilled in his head to keep it updated and clean software and hardware wise
 
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i honestly dont care because I built my Bros AM3+ machine with 970 Extreme 4 AsRock and a 6770 (Bulldozer-Which proved to be a sidegrade at best)- I put in a X2 555 BE for that machine and I unlocked it with stock cooling (Runs quiet actually less room temp reaches 80+), 8 GB Ram and its running as fast as it did a year ago but i finally drilled in his head to keep it updated and clean software and hardware wise
Ah, good stuff and yes you have to keep the PC nice and clean. Dust kills PC components. Anyhow, I am curious as to how Piledriver is going to stack up to it's big brother Bulldozer. The Piledriver cores within Trinity are tuned down versions, so I would expect the Desktop to perform better at 125w. :D
 
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Ah, good stuff and yes you have to keep the PC nice and clean. Dust kills PC components. Anyhow, I am curious as to how Piledriver is going to stack up to it's big brother Bulldozer. The Piledriver cores within Trinity are tuned down versions, so I would expect the Desktop to perform better at 125w. :D
Turned down versions? This isn't a car.

It may seem like they can get more, but they are bound by the limitations of the die size, and the existing traces in the die.
 
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Turned down versions? This isn't a car.

It may seem like they can get more, but they are bound by the limitations of the die size, and the existing traces in the die.
Yes, that is what I meant. I believe AvonX said you can't really push an APU's CPU too much due to those limitations.
Good Night Guys, it's close to midnight here,

Oh and here is that quote from that so called Insider.

Piledriver 15% to 20% Boost in IPC

This boost is based a combination of higher clock speed and internal core modifications.
The major different between Piledriver cores over Bulldozer is every single hike in clock rate will gain you more effective performance versus the Bulldozer. For instance, 200MHz Piledriver would approximately the same speed effect to an 800MHz hike via Bulldozer. This has to do with tweaking the dispatch, tightening the L2 timings, FPU modifications along with be slightly better branch prediction in terms of faster recovery of missed predictions.

posted by : ATInsider, 14 September 2012

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I don't know his name is ATInsider, you know insider :confused:
But the article states the obvious anyway.
Don't understand why you place high hopes on vishera.
There is nothing really to see from vishera, generally it will be the same as bulldozer.
You already have an fx-8120 and its not worth getting a vishera cpu.
You should wait for steamroller and hope things will be better.
I personally believe that the real improvement will be "excavator" and that is the one that they are really focusing on and there will be major changes.
As i told you before, it needs a complete redesign in order for this architecture to get fixed.
 

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The bad news is that the fx-8350 is more power hungry than the fx-8150.
If this is true, i think they will be officially out of the dedicated desktop CPU's market.
Unless they have cancelled it and they are waiting to release steamroller.
 
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Cooling Corsair H55 ][ Stock
Memory 2x4GB Kingston HyperX Genesis @ 1866MHz ][ 4x4 GiB Hynix @ 1333 MHz; ECC on
Video Card(s) 2x MSI GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II OC ][ None
Storage 1TB WD Black + 1.5TB WD Green + 750GB Samsung + 64GB OCZ Agility 4 ][ 3x 1 TB Hitachi
Display(s) Asus VG278H + Asus VH226H ][ None
Case Antec Nine Hundred ][ it's a server blade, lol
Audio Device(s) Supreme FX II (Integrated); Using optical S/PDIF output ][ none
Power Supply Corsair AX1200i ][ [stock]
Software Gentoo Linux ][ Linux Mint 16
Benchmark Scores 65970 BogoMIPS. Ha. Ha. Ha. >=|
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Location
Canada/Québec/Montreal
System Name Main PC
Processor PII 925 @3.724GHz (266x14) 1.525v NB 2660 1.425v
Motherboard Gigabyte AM3 GA-890XA-UD3 (790x+SB850)
Cooling Scythe Mugen 2 rev.B
Memory Hyperx 8GB (2x4) 1600@1418 8-7-7-20-27-1t
Video Card(s) Sapphire 6850 Stock (Max Overclock 1030/1200)
Storage 1x1TB WD Green / 1x1TB Seagate
Display(s) LCD Samsung 24" 16:9
Case Cooler Master HAF 912
Audio Device(s) On-Board HD
Power Supply CM 750w GX |3.3v@25a|5v@25a|12v@60a
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Benchmark Scores later...
They are now oc higher then 9Ghz...:eek:

Anyhow real or not (all we see about it on the internet) i have to agree with AvonX Piledriver/Vishera won't be much improvement over Bulldozer I'll say about 10-15% max & probably not even 5% in some area's & all that because of higher clock speed so in another word probably slower then current Bulldozer at same clock speed...

I don't rally care about it much anymore , anyways as i hardly play games since the past 5 years or so & even less since i got back into slot cars racing , now all i need is a cheap PC to surf the net & watch Movies/TV-Series
 
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System Name Eternal WIP ][ HP ProLiant server blade
Processor AMD FX-8320 @ 4.4/4.1 GHz ][ 2x Intel Xeon L5520 @ 2.27GHz
Motherboard Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ][ -
Cooling Corsair H55 ][ Stock
Memory 2x4GB Kingston HyperX Genesis @ 1866MHz ][ 4x4 GiB Hynix @ 1333 MHz; ECC on
Video Card(s) 2x MSI GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II OC ][ None
Storage 1TB WD Black + 1.5TB WD Green + 750GB Samsung + 64GB OCZ Agility 4 ][ 3x 1 TB Hitachi
Display(s) Asus VG278H + Asus VH226H ][ None
Case Antec Nine Hundred ][ it's a server blade, lol
Audio Device(s) Supreme FX II (Integrated); Using optical S/PDIF output ][ none
Power Supply Corsair AX1200i ][ [stock]
Software Gentoo Linux ][ Linux Mint 16
Benchmark Scores 65970 BogoMIPS. Ha. Ha. Ha. >=|