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AMD's next-gen RDNA 2 rumor: 40-50% faster than GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

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A new rumor for Big Navi is teasing some truly huge performance, with YouTuber Moore's Law Is Dead saying that AMD's flagship RDNA 2-based graphics card will be 40-50% faster than NVIDIA's current flagship GeForce RTX 2080 Ti graphics card.

But it's also not the first time we've heard that Big Navi would be twice as fast as the Navi 10-powered Radeon RX 5700 XT. In those rumors, we heard about 80 compute units, 5120 stream processors, and 17.5 TFLOPs of compute performance.

The leak says that AMD will be using 72 SMs with "two clusters of 36 CUs in each", with an unknown amount of GDDR6 on a 384-bit memory bus. The GPU has a game clock of 2.05GHz and boost clock of 2.15GHz in its current form.

Big Navi being this fast means AMD has caught up to NVIDIA in a big, big freaking way. It also means that the previous leaks of NVIDIA's upcoming GeForce RTX 3060 being about as fast as the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti that much more true.

If Big Navi is indeed this fast, it'll be the biggest shake up in the GPU industry in almost forever.

Lisa Su and the re-focused team at AMD and Radeon are ready to take this battle right to NVIDIA's door it seems, but don't think NVIDIA is going to take this lying down.



 
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5ghz Zen 2 called back, it wants its bs rumors back.
 
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tweaktown = giant grain of salt, lulz. they hyped a bunch of stuff last couple years that turned out to be false, really they should not even be allowed to be considered news anymore imo
 
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Interesting and it indeed could be true but we have to wait and see when they are actually available. I do like the fact that AMD is keeping this close to the vest in terms of true specs though.
 
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Interesting and it indeed could be true but we have to wait and see when they are actually available. I do like the fact that AMD is keeping this close to the vest in terms of true specs though.

even if it is true it doesn't mean it will be worth a buy, AMD has a lot of trust to be gained on the driver side of things for GPU's... even going to amazon or newegg now and filtering reviews by "most recent" scary stuff. I play a lot of older games, so I need to know drivers are stable for even those games a long long time ago. not just what is in the spotlight.
 
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even if it is true it doesn't mean it will be worth a buy, AMD has a lot of trust to be gained on the driver side of things for GPU's... even going to amazon or newegg now and filtering reviews by "most recent" scary stuff. I play a lot of older games, so I need to know drivers are stable for even those games a long long time ago. not just what is in the spotlight.
Well I am on Vega and I am now addicted to AMD Radeon software. Even though there are negative reviews that data is at best reaching to say it is purely a driver issue. I have built systems with the 5600XT and 5700 and neither of those clients has had an issue.
 
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even if it is true it doesn't mean it will be worth a buy, AMD has a lot of trust to be gained on the driver side of things for GPU's... even going to amazon or newegg now and filtering reviews by "most recent" scary stuff. I play a lot of older games, so I need to know drivers are stable for even those games a long long time ago. not just what is in the spotlight.
Driver problems caused by new architecture, but they are mostly sorted out now. Question is, will the driver problems be a problem again with another new architecture (RDNA 2), or will it this time be a smooth start? If so, I would consider a Radeon for myself.
 
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even if it is true it doesn't mean it will be worth a buy, AMD has a lot of trust to be gained on the driver side of things for GPU's... even going to amazon or newegg now and filtering reviews by "most recent" scary stuff. I play a lot of older games, so I need to know drivers are stable for even those games a long long time ago. not just what is in the spotlight.
Still beating that same old drum, change the record and stop regurgitating crap you read on the Internet and spreading it as fact, it just makes you look foolish and ignorant
 
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Driver problems caused by new architecture, but they are mostly sorted out now. Question is, will the driver problems be a problem again with another new architecture (RDNA 2), or will it this time be a smooth start? If so, I would consider a Radeon for myself.

Well I think Lisa Su is well aware of the driver stuff and has taken big steps to fix it. If GamersNexus/other reviews gives Big Navi the A-OK on driver improvements, I might get one. He is really one of the last people I trust on youtube, and he loves ryzen but called out the rx 5700 drivers and really tried working with AMD behind the scenes to help them be more aware of the issues too. Which shows his objectivity in the matter.

Still beating that same old drum, change the record and stop regurgitating crap you read on the Internet and spreading it as fact, it just makes you look foolish and ignorant

or before I spend $800 I will read reviews.... but sure... keep attacking me fanboys... i own intel and AMD systems at the moment, sorry for being cautious... I guess?

damn tpu really has become toxic... im out, peace lol. one thread after another im just getting hammered. i can spend my time better than this. enjoy your day dude
 
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Well I think Lisa Su is well aware of the driver stuff and has taken big steps to fix it. If GamersNexus/other reviews gives Big Navi the A-OK on driver improvements, I might get one. He is really one of the last people I trust on youtube, and he loves ryzen but called out the rx 5700 drivers and really tried working with AMD behind the scenes to help them be more aware of the issues too. Which shows his objectivity in the matter.
True. HWUB is good as well.
 
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one thread after another im just getting hammered. i can spend my time better than this. enjoy your day dude
Maybe cause you're turning into "one of those guys" saying the same in anything related to amd threads? :rolleyes: we get it amd bad Nvidia awesome, you don't have to keep saying the same thing over and over again and yes I'm a fanboy cause I don't listen to people like you and choose to spend my money on what I want, not what you think I should buy, then again I'm not in every Intel Nvidia thread trashing them and calling people fanboys either :cool:
 
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Well I think Lisa Su is well aware of the driver stuff and has taken big steps to fix it. If GamersNexus/other reviews gives Big Navi the A-OK on driver improvements, I might get one. He is really one of the last people I trust on youtube, and he loves ryzen but called out the rx 5700 drivers and really tried working with AMD behind the scenes to help them be more aware of the issues too. Which shows his objectivity in the matter.



or before I spend $800 I will read reviews.... but sure... keep attacking me fanboys... i own intel and AMD systems at the moment, sorry for being cautious... I guess?

damn tpu really has become toxic... im out, peace lol. one thread after another im just getting hammered. i can spend my time better than this. enjoy your day dude


I am surprised they care attacking YOU, who have been saying all the nice thing about Radeon. Ouch.


Back to the topic. I wouldn't trust these ones too much. Most of the reliable rumors come from Taiwanese/Chinese hardware forums as there are folks who actually work in the production pipeline. The rest of the tech sites are either regurgitating, or just outright making shit up to get the clicks/views/traffic.

Anyway, let's give it another "Poor Ampere" shall well? And see if RTG actually delivers this round.
 
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even if it is true it doesn't mean it will be worth a buy, AMD has a lot of trust to be gained on the driver side of things for GPU's

And here people, is why you are paying 500$ for 106 chips from Nvidia. :roll:

God bless.
 
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Oh good, it's time to spin up the "2x faster than NVIDIA" rumour again. This one seems to come up every year and it never turns out to be true, yet people are happy to parrot it relentlessly regardless. Even better when it comes from an arbitrary YouTube personality with zero credibility!

2x perf over Ampere is not going to happen, especially considering this will be AMD's first try at hardware RT. It's always possible they've f**ked up RT so much they've just decided to cram more raster hardware on to compensate, but that seems unlikely considering the whole RT thing is still being sold as a feature of the next-gen consoles.

Yet sheeple will continue to believe these random YouTubers over facts and history, even when said YouTubers are proven wrong time and time again.
 
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Everyone would like to see nvidia's highend reign to end given how they've 2-3fold increased the pricing of enthusiast products in recent years,
but this is just more fake news wishful thinking to pander to fans. I guess it works since it keeps happening :)
 
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the way i see it, i want this to be true.

1. big increase in perf is always a welcome for us consumer
2. it will force nvidia to lower price if big navi is priced cheaper
3. we can choose nvidia/amd in the high end segment :)
 
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new rumor for Big Navi is teasing some truly huge performance, with YouTuber Moore's Law Is Dead
lol
Mlid
Same one who made up ampere charts in ms paint.

This would mean that big rdna 2 has the performance of two 5700xt's and a quarter.thats 1.5x of 1.5x
On same 7nm node,with 50% perf/wat increase.
Good luck.
 
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Have said months ago that if Navi21 has 80CUs it will end up being 30-40% faster than stock 2080Ti while consuming ~250W. If clocks are pushed higher it will get ~10% more performance and will consume 300W. Maybe a limited WC and more expensive model will be made to reach max clockspeeds.
 
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if all the rumors were true in reality till now.... :roll:
 
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Would be interesting if this were true, that means Nvidia can't charge 1500usd for their RTX 3090 anymore :D
 
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Aside from trying a handful of drivers to get one that didn't cause my brother issues, the 5700XT works wonders for him. Now, before anyone says "drivers sux for AMD!" - remember that not all drivers will work with all hardware configurations. You'll always have someone that has some issue with drivers, be it from AMD or Nvidia; I've had issues with nvidia drivers on my cards where others with similar systems didn't, so it happens.

Hopefully AMD can come back and throw it in Nvidia's face that they're still relevant in the high end gaming market.

I'm just patiently waiting for pricing to balance out to warrant the purchase of a new GPU. Right now $400 range gets me a card that maybe a 25-30% improvement over my 980Ti. Then in the $600 range around 40%, then the $700-750 gets me about a 50% improvement.....eh. Just not worth it in my opinion. Hopefully AMD can deliver and pricing won't be off the chart for both companies.

If a new line of cards can bring 2080Ti performance to $400 price range, that would be an upgrade I can live with. If not, then I keep using what I have, I'm in no hurry to dump a lot of cash for what I'd consider a bad investment.
 
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Even though I will still buy nvidia because I like what they have to offer better (im constantly using Shadowplay and have been since it's introduction), we really need AMD to be competitive with nvidia again so they can drop their prices back down. I dont want to pay $1500 for a new GPU in a few months. I want the Ti to come back down around the $700-800 price range and be more affordable.
 
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Oh good, it's time to spin up the "2x faster than NVIDIA" rumour again. This one seems to come up every year and it never turns out to be true, yet people are happy to parrot it relentlessly regardless. Even better when it comes from an arbitrary YouTube personality with zero credibility!

2x perf over Ampere is not going to happen, especially considering this will be AMD's first try at hardware RT. It's always possible they've f**ked up RT so much they've just decided to cram more raster hardware on to compensate, but that seems unlikely considering the whole RT thing is still being sold as a feature of the next-gen consoles.

Yet sheeple will continue to believe these random YouTubers over facts and history, even when said YouTubers are proven wrong time and time again.

+50% is not 2x. That would be +100%.

There are promising things being circulated about RDNA2 and patent filings show AMD hasn't been sleeping. Their new BVH traversal logic block is a pretty unique and seemingly efficient design. Will it be a 1.5x uplift over TU102 though? That seems like a long shot but I don't doubt they have the ability to do it. The real question is what has nVidia targeted as their performance uplift over TU102? 1.6x? Maybe as high as 1.8x?
 
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While it would be awesome to see AMD pull a card 40-50% faster than a 2080Ti out of it's hat, the grain of salt I'm taking with this rumor is bigger than my car.
 
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