AMD's next-gen RDNA 2 rumor: 40-50% faster than GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

kayjay010101 · Jul 16, 2020

BoboOOZ said:
Well, I agree that for 1080p/144FPS 150W is enough. But we don't need flagships for that.

But for high refresh ultra-wide or for 4k/120 FPS I am prepared to accept 350W or even more, as long as the card is reasonably silent and it doesn't cost an arm.
An arm is 700 euro for me, btw .

For me specifically, I don't care how much power draw there is. If it's the top end card, I'm watercooling it anyway, and in that case it doesn't matter since I have upwards of a thousands watts of cooling power with my rads.

Kanan · Jul 16, 2020

If you wanna be on the save side, simply await the reviews, but on top, look at the postings in AMD subreddit. If it has a lot of "I have a problem with the RX 6700 XT" posts, you know what to do.

cucker tarlson · Jul 16, 2020

5700xt was supposed to be $250 150W.they were just $200 and 100w off
nuff said.ppl never learn.

Kanan · Jul 16, 2020

cucker tarlson said:
5700xt was supposed to be $250 150W.they were just $200 and 100w off
nuff said.ppl never learn.

The 5700 XT was hiked up, according to performance and pricing vs Nvidia GPUs. Life is hard. 2020 will bring improvements to the GPU situation.

cucker tarlson · Jul 16, 2020

Kanan said:
Life is hard

no it isn't
unless you mean in Africa.
then yes,it's hard.

EarthDog · Jul 16, 2020

theoneandonlymrk said:
AMD are going to win this round I think , until next year when Nvidia port ampere to Tsmc and call them supers.

Yeah Nvidia might get near or pip the performance of big Navi at the high end but at 50-100 watts more and pushed to it's limit's, I think AMD might hold back a ltd edition counter punch.

Nvidia would just roll with Samsung if they were that good but they Did run back to Tsmc in the end, but that'll take time to fit in now.

Mad rumours of 350-450 watt amperes abound.

bookmarking this post....

Super XP · Jul 16, 2020

AMD has been really focused on RDNA2 just like they've been for all the ZEN releases.
I can see RDNA2 having the same effect as ZEN2 had in the CPU world. Or perhaps the upcoming ZEN3, which should be a much larger punch upside the head.

bug · Jul 16, 2020

Super XP said:
AMD has been really focused on RDNA2 just like they've been for all the ZEN releases.
I can see RDNA2 having the same effect as ZEN2 had in the CPU world. Or perhaps the upcoming ZEN3, which should be a much larger punch upside the head.

I've been hearing this story (in various forms) for literally every single launch since Polaris.
I've grown to hope for the best, but expect the worst.

EarthDog · Jul 16, 2020

bug said:
I've been hearing this story (in various forms) for literally every single launch since Polaris.
I've grown to hope for the best, but expect the worst.

Some people's cups runneth over, others take a more realistic approach.

oxrufiioxo · Jul 16, 2020

I feel like this happens towards the end of every GPU lifecycle. Tons of rumors about crazy performance at lower prices etc etc with the hype train getting put of control. I'm guessing ampere will be out first and regardless of how it performs it'll be expensive at a min cards will be priced tier for tier with Turing if we're lucky. Then a month or 2 later AMD will come out with something that is competitive with the second tier nvidia GPU assuming nvidia doesn't hold back big ampere and will price it $50-100 less....

Then fanboys will fight for another 2 years with AMD is a better value, nvidia is faster and more efficient, amd drivers suck, nvidia is mean, AMD is dumb till we get rumors about RDNA 3 and nvidia 4000 lol.

I still feel most people just want AMD competitive so that they can buy an nvidia GPU for cheaper defeating the whole point of AMD being competitive....

Me I don't really care who makes the fastest card but whoever does will get my $$$

EarthDog · Jul 16, 2020

oxrufiioxo said:
Then fanboys will fight for another 2 years with AMD is a better value, nvidia is faster and more efficient, amd drivers suck, nvidia is mean, AMD is dumb till we get rumors about RDNA 3 and nvidia 4000 lol.

This has the potential to be my first signature ever at TPU...

Forums, especially this one and several participants, are getting so tiring.....

BoboOOZ · Jul 16, 2020

EarthDog said:
Forums, especially this one and several participants, are getting so tiring.....

I used to spend time on Sherdog, a MMA forum a while ago. The insults and the flame wars were much, much worse than here. Don't hesitate to use the "ignore" function, it cleans up the threads quite nicely.

EarthDog · Jul 16, 2020

BoboOOZ said:
I used to spend time on Sherdog, a MMA forum a while ago. The insults and the flame wars were much, much worse than here. Don't hesitate to use the "ignore" function, it cleans up the threads quite nicely.

I do already.. trust me. :/

Super XP · Jul 16, 2020

bug said:
I've been hearing this story (in various forms) for literally every single launch since Polaris.
I've grown to hope for the best, but expect the worst.

RDNA 2 has nothing to do with previous launches. The main difference is that AMD separated the Gaming GPU and the Server GPU. Just like the ATI days.

That's the main difference, and that's why it should have an industry effect.

bug · Jul 16, 2020

Super XP said:
RDNA 2 has nothing to do with previous launches. The main difference is that AMD separated the Gaming GPU and the Server GPU. Just like the ATI days.

That's the main difference, and that's why it should have an industry effect.

Yes, I'm guessing that's why it's called RDNA2, because it has nothing to do with RDNA

Wait and see, I guess?

BoboOOZ said:
I used to spend time on Sherdog, a MMA forum a while ago. The insults and the flame wars were much, much worse than here. Don't hesitate to use the "ignore" function, it cleans up the threads quite nicely.

Ignoring leaves you with quotes seemingly out of nowhere. I honestly don't know which is worse.

BoboOOZ · Jul 16, 2020

bug said:
Ignoring leaves you with quotes seemingly out of nowhere. I honestly don't know which is worse.

I'll take quotes instead of biased, redundant, aggressive content any day. Keeps me in a better mood.

moproblems99 · Jul 16, 2020

kayjay010101 said:
For me specifically, I don't care how much power draw there is. If it's the top end card, I'm watercooling it anyway, and in that case it doesn't matter since I have upwards of a thousands watts of cooling power with my rads.

Yes, who loves dumping 1000 watts of heat into a room for hours on end. No one in a warm climate.

kayjay010101 · Jul 16, 2020

moproblems99 said:
Yes, who loves dumping 1000 watts of heat into a room for hours on end. No one in a warm climate.

I don't live in a warm climate

xkm1948 · Jul 16, 2020

This is just an attempt to hyper drive the RDNA2 hype train. There was one for Navi, one for Vega, one for Polaris. Oh wait, there was almost one for every gen of RTG cards!

Vega:

AMD Vega Discussion Thread

Friendly notice, this is not your daily hype train. VEGA WILL NOT run on rainbow power and output 16K@60fps. Source: https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1716524&page=1&authorid=42930 Using google translate, here is what I can get out of it. 1. Consumer version VEGA will...

www.techpowerup.com

Navi:

CHOO CHOOOOO!!!!1! Navi Hype Train be rollin'

Didn't see this pop up on the forums so thought it should be shared. https://wccftech.com/amd-navi-20-radeon-rx-graphics-card-ray-tracing-gcn-architecture-rumor/

www.techpowerup.com

And I will just leave the froggy overlord @R-T-B 's word here:

Editorial - Hype Trains and You: A PSA

Hype Trains are bad. They are not just bad because a random frog on the internet told you so either, they are bad because they build upon themselves to the point that you would believe a random frog on the internet if he said something beneficial about your chosen product. It's not just...

www.techpowerup.com

moproblems99 · Jul 16, 2020

xkm1948 said:
This is just an attempt to hyper drive the RDNA2 hype train. There was one for Navi, one for Vega, one for Polaris. Oh wait, there was almost one for every gen of RTG cards!

Hey, my choo choo hype train was a joke.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 16, 2020

EarthDog said:
bookmarking this post....

I'll accept I'm optimistic

.

Fluffmeister · Jul 16, 2020

Yeah maybe Nvidia don't want to disrupt 4K gaming, they want to blow it out of the frikin water.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 16, 2020

Fluffmeister said:
Yeah maybe Nvidia don't want to disrupt 4K gaming, they want to blow it out of the frikin water.

They're being forced to push the envelope, that's clear, like with Intel efficiency is out the window, perhaps competition Is turning up.

Fluffmeister · Jul 16, 2020

theoneandonlymrk said:
They're being forced to push the envelope, that's clear, like with Intel efficiency is out the window, perhaps competition Is turning up.

Yeah that 12pin lark in the other thread is odd to say the least, interesting how it will play out.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 16, 2020

Fluffmeister said:
Yeah that 12pin lark in the other thread is odd to say the least, interesting how it will play out.

Hopefully, I can't wait for review's, probably not on my buy list though.
The Rona f'd my savings right the f up, man's skint , just started a new contract though so you never know.

System Name	Main PC
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard	ASUS X570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi)
Cooling	EKWB X570 VIII Hero Monoblock, 2x XD5, Heatkiller IV SB block for chipset,Alphacool 3090 Strix block
Memory	4x16GB 3200-14-14-14-34 G.Skill Trident RGB (OC: 3600-14-14-14-28)
Video Card(s)	ASUS RTX 3090 Strix OC
Storage	500GB+500GB SSD RAID0, Fusion IoDrive2 1.2TB, Huawei HSSD 2TB, 11TB on server used for steam
Display(s)	Dell LG CX48 (custom res: 3840x1620@120Hz) + Acer XB271HU 2560x1440@144Hz
Case	Corsair 1000D
Audio Device(s)	Sennheiser HD599, Blue Yeti
Power Supply	Corsair RM1000i
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard	Corsair Strafe RGB MK2
Software	Windows 10 Pro 20H2

System Name	eazen corp \| Xentronon 7.2
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max.
Motherboard	Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus
Cooling	Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out)
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V
Video Card(s)	Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6
Storage	Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM
Display(s)	Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV
Case	Corsair Carbide 600C
Audio Device(s)	HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80
Power Supply	EVGA 650 GQ
Mouse	Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
Keyboard	Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches
VR HMD	Still nope
Software	Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	15 095 Time Spy \| P29 079 Firestrike \| P35 628 3DM11 \| X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme

System Name	Purple rain
Processor	10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v
Motherboard	Zee 490 Aorus Elite
Cooling	Noctua D15S
Memory	16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel
Video Card(s)	RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage	SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB
Display(s)	Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG
Case	P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans
Audio Device(s)	K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless
Power Supply	Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse	G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard	HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker
Software	Windows 10
Benchmark Scores	A LOT

System Name	eazen corp \| Xentronon 7.2
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max.
Motherboard	Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus
Cooling	Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out)
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V
Video Card(s)	Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6
Storage	Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM
Display(s)	Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV
Case	Corsair Carbide 600C
Audio Device(s)	HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80
Power Supply	EVGA 650 GQ
Mouse	Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
Keyboard	Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches
VR HMD	Still nope
Software	Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	15 095 Time Spy \| P29 079 Firestrike \| P35 628 3DM11 \| X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme

System Name	Purple rain
Processor	10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v
Motherboard	Zee 490 Aorus Elite
Cooling	Noctua D15S
Memory	16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel
Video Card(s)	RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage	SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB
Display(s)	Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG
Case	P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans
Audio Device(s)	K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless
Power Supply	Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse	G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard	HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker
Software	Windows 10
Benchmark Scores	A LOT

AMD's next-gen RDNA 2 rumor: 40-50% faster than GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

kayjay010101

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer

cucker tarlson

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer

cucker tarlson

EarthDog

Super XP

bug

EarthDog

oxrufiioxo

EarthDog

BoboOOZ

EarthDog

Super XP

bug

BoboOOZ

moproblems99

kayjay010101

xkm1948

AMD Vega Discussion Thread

CHOO CHOOOOO!!!!1! Navi Hype Train be rollin'

Editorial - Hype Trains and You: A PSA

moproblems99

TheoneandonlyMrK

Fluffmeister

TheoneandonlyMrK

Fluffmeister

TheoneandonlyMrK

System Name	RiseZEN Gaming PC
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ Auto
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard
Cooling	Corsair H115i Elite Capellix AIO, 280mm Radiator, Dual RGB 140mm ML Series PWM Fans
Memory	G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200
Video Card(s)	ASUS DUAL RX 6700 XT DUAL-RX6700XT-12G
Storage	Corsair Force MP500 480GB M.2 & MP510 480GB M.2 - 2 x WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe 1TB
Display(s)	ASUS ROG Strix 34” XG349C 180Hz 1440p + Asus ROG 27" MG278Q 144Hz WQHD 1440p
Case	Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Gaming Case
Audio Device(s)	SteelSeries 5Hv2 w/ Sound Blaster Z SE
Power Supply	Corsair RM750x Power Supply
Mouse	Razer Death-Adder + Viper 8K HZ Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse - Ergonomic Left Hand Edition
Keyboard	Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Gaming Keyboard
Software	Windows 11 Pro - 64-Bit Edition
Benchmark Scores	I'm the Doctor, Doctor Who. The Definition of Gaming is PC Gaming...

Processor	Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard	Asus H670 TUF
Cooling	Arctic Freezer 34
Memory	2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V
Video Card(s)	EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage	500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s)	Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w
Case	Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s)	Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply	Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse	Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard	G.Skill KM780R
Software	Arch Linux + Win10

System Name	His & Hers
Processor	R7 5800X/ R9 5950X Stock
Motherboard	X570 Aorus Master/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero
Cooling	Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum
Memory	32 GB 4x8GB 4000CL15 Trident Z Royal/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk
Video Card(s)	Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090
Storage	lots of SSD.
Display(s)	LG G2 65/LG C1 48/ LG 27GP850/ MSI 27 inch VA panel 1440p165hz
Case	011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X
Audio Device(s)	Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B
Power Supply	Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero.
Keyboard	Corsair K95 RGB Platinum/ Logitech G Pro

System Name	Home
Processor	Ryzen 3600X
Motherboard	MSI Tomahawk 450 MAX
Cooling	Noctua NH-U14S
Memory	16GB Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 CAS 16
Video Card(s)	MSI RX 5700XT EVOKE OC
Storage	Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB
Display(s)	ASUS VA326HR + MSI Optix G24C4
Case	MSI - MAG Forge 100M
Power Supply	Aerocool Lux RGB M 650W

System Name	Wut?
Processor	3900X
Motherboard	ASRock Taichi X570
Cooling	Water
Memory	32GB GSkill CL16 3600mhz
Video Card(s)	Vega 56
Storage	2 x AData XPG 8200 Pro 1TB
Display(s)	3440 x 1440
Case	Thermaltake Tower 900
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum

System Name	Virtual Reality / Bioinformatics
Processor	Undead CPU
Motherboard	Undead TUF X99
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15
Memory	GSkill 128GB DDR4-3000
Video Card(s)	EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra
Storage	Samsung 960 Pro 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + WD Black 5TB
Display(s)	32'' 4K Dell
Case	Fractal Design R5
Audio Device(s)	BOSE 2.0
Power Supply	Seasonic 850watt
Mouse	Logitech Master MX
Keyboard	Corsair K70 Cherry MX Blue
VR HMD	HTC Vive + Oculus Quest 2
Software	Windows 10 P

System Name	RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II
Processor	Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H
Motherboard	Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus
Cooling	360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK
Memory	Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB
Video Card(s)	Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060
Storage	Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme
Display(s)	Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter
Case	Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2
Audio Device(s)	Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset
Power Supply	corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock
Mouse	Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard	Roccat Aimo 120
VR HMD	Oculus rift
Software	Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
Cooling	AMD Wraith Prism
Memory	Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE
Storage	Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse
Display(s)	Samsung 50" QN94A Neo QLED
Case	Antec 1200
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus GX-850
Mouse	Razer Deathadder Chroma
Keyboard	Logitech UltraX
Software	Windows 11