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AMD's turn for some side channel fun

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But some of us in the know watch this stuff with a career on the line.
Career on the line? Yes, but I don't think that you mean what someone else will read in that comment.
AMD is gaining in retail, but not so much in OEM and business markets. They move pretty slow there, which in my opinion means that, professionals who setup hundred or thousands of systems for employees, still bet their job on the big name, Intel, no matter how many vulnerabilities will go public. They prefer to install 20 patches and do 5 firmware upgrades and have the excuse "I choose Intel for the company, I choose systems with CPUs from the bigger brand in the world" than going with an AMD option. So, I don't think that we have reach the crossroad where professionals will really, I mean REALLY consider changing Intel because of all those security concerns. I think people who watch this staff are still choosing to ignore this stuff because the other option, going to AMD, still looks unknown and dangerous in other ways.
But that is just a personal opinion.
 
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For example, an Intel bug that was patched last year was revealed earlier this week to be much worse than previously thought. However, even if the bug impacts more products and can leak more data than previously thought, exploiting it requires jumping through a series of hoops that limit its applicability in the real world.
The Collide+Probe and Load+Reload are not that kind of attack, at least, according to researchers. These attacks can be exploited in real-world scenarios, and with rather ease, without needing physical access, special equipment, or to break apart computer cases to connect to hidden ports -- like many past CPU attacks have required.
The research team said it managed to exploit the two AMD vulnerabilities via JavaScript and in a cloud computing environment -- making the two attacks a palpable danger for real-world deployments of AMD processors.
AMD processors from 2011 to 2019 vulnerable to two new attacks | ZDNet

So is it worse than Intel flaws? I hear it leaks meta-data but not actually data, whatever that means.
 
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My point was more personal: If you were fired, it was probably dramatic and life altering and you probably sucked at your job by not keeping your ears to the ground.

People get fired all the time for a million reasons, this is nothing special.
 
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People get fired all the time for a million reasons, this is nothing special.

It's always special when it involves you. Don't know about you, but I like to avoid being "not special" and try to avoid being fired for doing a shitty job. *shrugs*

Career on the line? Yes, but I don't think that you mean what someone else will read in that comment.

I think I could've worded it better given the confusion, yes.
 
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So are you goin back to intel then?

All depends, if AMD is better, I'll go with whoever has my fancy at the time. As RTB pointed out, everyone is going to have their own problems. Until someone has a vuln that can leak actually worrisome data on a consistent basis, I am not worried by these class of flaws.

These classes of flaws concern me in the manner that my data sits in data centers that will be the targets.
 
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People get fired all the time for a million reasons, this is nothing special.
I've never been fired in my 50 plus years of working, but I did survive 4 rounds of lay-offs while I worked at a major software development company. And I can tell you it didn't matter how special or not special you were. It was all about the position you filled and the money saved if that position was eliminated. I saw some very good people "let go" and some mediocre people stay, just because of their current salaries.

And FTR, while there may be a million reasons to get "fired", in most jurisdictions these days, there has to be "just cause". I would rather be fired for "just cause" than having to wait around worried and wondering if I will next to get laid off. Just the thought that lay-offs might be coming creates an extremely stressful and even toxic environment. It will immediately turn a great, supportive and fun place to work into a back-stabbing, everyone out for themselves, hostile place to work. No fun at all.

In fact, after the forth round of lay-offs at my company, I gave my two-weeks notice and opened my own custom computers, IT consulting and computer repair shop. And even with all the stress factors involved in owning your own business, my blood pressure dropped, and receding hairline stopped receding.

I now return control of this way-off topic back to the OP.
 
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