Antifreezer + Destilliert Water

[EarthDog]

Lol, i assume you are sarcastic there...

Anyway, I honestly cant believe we are 25 posts in with every dick, tom, and jane saying something different... distilled and a biocide is all you need man. Dont turn something so elementary into rocket science.

Also, how in the good world are you using 6L of fluid in a loop???!!!!!

 

[FireFox]

Lol, i assume you are sarcastic there...

You shouldn't be surprised

Dont turn something so elementary into rocket science

It's not me, you said it all: I honestly cant believe we are 25 posts in with every dick, tom, and jane saying something different.

Btw, i am looking for a solution where i can run the same coolant/Water for more than 2 Years.

 

[Johan45]

I'm in the same boat as Mr.Scott. I did run Antifreeze mix in my loop for 2 years but my pump eventually gave out(750 GPH that sits in a -25°C freezer, 24/7). I have since switched to Windsheild washer fluid as it's easier on the pump, it's mostly water and methanol mixed won't go green that's for sure and no issues with the blocks either.

 

[jaggerwild]

I used to hang my rads out the window during snow/cold days, I used windsheild wiper spray as its made to not freeze up in cold conditions. It is all condition specific, I stay away from relabeled bottle's the suppliers sell as it is all just off the shelf items Walmart sells. Plus ive seen stories of bad reactions from mixing metals.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct...aw2Q3oC1z1C6IzyJR815QHa7&ust=1513692466312976

 

[Vellinious]

Conventionally water cooled PC's (pump,tubing,rad,block) don't need any kind of antifreeze/coolant as they aren't anywhere near any kind of condition to need it. Straight distilled is fine in a closed loop. I've gone as long as 3 years with the same distilled water in my loop. No issues. Also, running alcohol based liquids through plastic is great for ruining the plastic.

And especially bad for a loop with acrylic. Alcohol doesn't play nice with acrylic blocks...it will cause stress fractures with prolonged exposure.

 

[Outback Bronze]

And especially bad for a loop with acrylic. Alcohol doesn't play nice with acrylic blocks...it will cause stress fractures with prolonged exposure.

I've been using antifreeze/coolant for close to 2+ years on an acrylic block, res and all hardline tubing with no fractures.

I've even been mining with my system specs for the last 6 months 24/7 with the coolant/antifreeze.

I see stress fractures on my acrylic block only and they are very slight. But they are where the tubes go in and out and it's probably/could be just a case of overtightening. There are no other stress fractures on the block anywhere else visible.

But in saying that, lets see how it goes for the next 2 years or so.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

For as much as I love the idea of watercooling, I dont like the expense or the work involved with maintaining it. AIO's ftw!

 

[Vellinious]

I've been using antifreeze/coolant for close to 2+ years on an acrylic block, res and all hardline tubing with no fractures.

I've even been mining with my system specs for the last 6 months 24/7 with the coolant/antifreeze.

I see stress fractures on my acrylic block only and they are very slight. But they are where the tubes go in and out and it's probably/could be just a case of overtightening. There are no other stress fractures on the block anywhere else visible.

But in saying that, lets see how it goes for the next 2 years or so.

Anecdotal evidence is....anecdotal. Good luck. Alcohol weakens acrylic. That's just a simple fact.

 

[bogmali]

PT Nuke and Distilled H2O just like what a few have said......nuff said

 

[Solaris17]

Straight water with no form of biocide?, for 3 years?
You are an anomaly.



There is alcohol resistant tubing readily available almost everywhere, and most decent pumps don't seem to mind.

It’s the acrylic if you pour alcohol on acrylic is cracks almost immediately so resivours and blocks are at risk.

Source: completely fucked my 775 block and res back in the day.

 

[EarthDog]

So........... can someone please school this American... is "Distilliert" a typo or what others call Distilled?

 

[bogmali]

So........... can someone please school this American... is "Distilliert" a typo or what others call Distilled?

Distilliert in Deutsch but yes translates to distilled

 

[jboydgolfer]

Algae it's the main reason.

iirc, the interior of my Rad/Res was lined with a metal that inhibited it, but adding some biotene works fine if your concerned.

 

[Sasqui]

I've been using antifreeze/coolant

What brand / type?

The Swiftech 140x I have claims it's prefilled with water and propylene glycol if I recall correctly.

 

[Regeneration]

What the hell are you talking about?

In water cooling, you put 50% distilled water + 50% antifreeze. That's how it works.

Same thing goes for a car I think.

Just make sure to get quality antifreeze and avoid cheap knock offs.

Antifreeze increases boiling temperature, prevents freezing (if you live in a cold country) and helps with heat transfer.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I am with erocker, I have done straight distilled water every since I did my first loop about 4 years ago. My current loop is running straight distilled, and its been 5 months since initial fill. I use solid colored tubing, but a clear reservoir. I have been considering the new primochill coolant, since it does have a pretty bad ass effect as it goes through the system.

I guy on youtube reviewed it, and sound that instead of getting the blocks and tubing all dirty and what not, it actually was cleaning the loop instead. He put the fluid in a loop that previously had a lot of build up in the blocks, and it was all gone after a couple month of running the loop.

https://www.primochill.com/collections/vue-unique-visual

 

[jboydgolfer]

What the hell are you talking about?

In water cooling, you put 50% distilled water + 50% antifreeze.

Same thing goes for a car I think.

for a car you generally use a 50-50 mix. The anti-freeze comes in two ways, predominately either 100 percent anti-freeze, or 50 percent anti-freeze- 50 percent water. Either are more viscous than just distilled water on its own. I've never put antifreeze in one of my water cooling systems ,and I've never had a problem with corrosion algae etc. Also anti-freeze is used in vehicles because water freezes, and many vehicles are driven where temperatures go below freezing and because of the high temperatures that a cars engine undergoes since AF has a higher boiling point. Using anti-freeze is common for a vehicle because of it's ability to handle extremely high temps and it's extremely low temps, it also helps to prevent corrosion. The two major factors that determine anti-freeze as the best choice for cars are not a factor for computers (unless your PC is in the arctic or in the sun) AVG h2o temp in a PC is what, 40c ,50c?? less than or half of boiling, and NOWEHERE near freezing, so basically, 99.9% of users are using antifreeze SOLELY as an antibacterial/biocide weather they know it or not- ( and to be honest if I needed an antibacterial or Biocide I certainly wouldn't use antifreeze). At the end of the day using antifreeze in your computer is kind of like using a sledgehammer to kill a fly,its WAY overkill in most situations, as well as the wrong tool for the job, and honestly, if corrosion, boiling & freezing werent concerns, H2O would be used in cars 100% of the time . I think all that matters is that you use what works for you and live and let live

 

[Outback Bronze]

What brand / type?

The Swiftech 140x I have claims it's prefilled with water and propylene glycol if I recall correctly.

Anecdotal evidence is....anecdotal. Good luck. Alcohol weakens acrylic. That's just a simple fact.

Ive taken some pictures for you.

The Res has had antifreeze in it for close to 3 years. Since x99 was introduced.

The block with the stress fractures is the one I'm currently using. Roughly 2 years + 6 months mining 24/7

The other block has had coolant in it for the good part of 3 years also. Seems pretty good so far.

The coolant I use is also very effective under UV light.

I will still monitor it.

Over the good part of 13 years mate, I've really had no major issues.

 

[Vellinious]

Looks like ya got some stress fractures in the CPU block, there.

 

[Outback Bronze]

Looks like ya got some stress fractures in the CPU block, there.

Is it from just over tightening though?

Edit: ....

https://www.ekwb.com/blog/antimicrobial-algae-protection/​

 

[Vellinious]

Listen. Alcohol negatively impacts acrylic. It's not a something that can be debated. It's simply a fact. The fact that you run an alcohol based coolant in your rig, and the fact that your block has stress fractures, it's not a wild reach to add 2 and 2 together. Could it be from over tightening? Sure....question is, are you really that careless? Or is it the alcohol in your system, that's KNOWN to weaken acrylic and CAUSE stress fractures, that caused it. The answer? I leave that to you.

 

[micropage7]

Alcohol negatively impacts acrylic

yeah
thats why i avoid alcohol when i walk home
water or distilled water or anti freeze or dye has impact to your system or your money

 

[Outback Bronze]

http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic/plastics_library/Chemical-Resistance-of-Plexiglass-Acrylic

It depends what type of Acrylic your using and also its thickness and temperature.

The block with stress fractures could merely be a bad design.

I have no other signs of stress fractures of anywhere in the loop. Its been running for 2 years.

It could be a very fine line to say that these stress fractures are caused purely by ethylene glycol.

TBH the only reason i use acrylic blocks is because i want to see if any air bubbles.

This block that im picturing here is for the P4C 478. I also modified this block to fit my 775 boards. It had been getting using with my ethylene glycol for approx 6 years. No stress fractures.

Good design, thick acrylic.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Listen. Alcohol negatively impacts acrylic. It's not a something that can be debated. It's simply a fact. The fact that you run an alcohol based coolant in your rig, and the fact that your block has stress fractures, it's not a wild reach to add 2 and 2 together. Could it be from over tightening? Sure....question is, are you really that careless? Or is it the alcohol in your system, that's KNOWN to weaken acrylic and CAUSE stress fractures, that caused it. The answer? I leave that to you.

Stress cracks are a mechanical defect. Alcohol did not cause them. Over tightening on shitty materials/design did.
I have Acrylic blocks that have run alcohol based coolant in them for a decade and they're still perfect.

 

[Vellinious]

And again....it is a fact, that even small amounts of alcohol negatively impacts acrylic. Alcohol is a solvent. It weakens it, and causes stress fractures. There it is.