• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Anyone have experience with Noctua U12A cooler or Arctic Freezer e34 DUO?

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
15,929 (4.59/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
I am curious to see a comparison between these two coolers in a controlled environment. So far I have a found a youtube video on one or the other, but the variables are too many to compare.

Just wondering if the extra $60 is worth the Noctua one really.
 

Mordeafaca

New Member
Joined
Jun 2, 2020
Messages
7 (0.00/day)
Hi there,

From experience I have been using a Arctic Freezer e34 DUO for a year on a r5 3600 with a fractal design focus g and max temps registered in hwinfo after long gaming session go around 70~75 ºC.
I have two friends using the single fan e34 with r5 3600 and their max temps don't go further them 70s ºC also.
So I think it was a pretty good buy. Anyway hope this can be helpful in some way.

Later
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
15,929 (4.59/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
I appreciate your feedback Mord, but I am more interested in a complex comparison.
 
Joined
Jan 5, 2006
Messages
17,794 (2.66/day)
System Name AlderLake / Laptop
Processor Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U
Motherboard Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1)
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan
Memory 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MHz CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD
Display(s) 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy
Case Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion
Audio Device(s) Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick
Mouse Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless
Keyboard RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit
Software Windows 11 / Windows 10
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock

I have one and it does it's job well cooling my i7 6700K @ 4.5Ghz.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
15,929 (4.59/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Hmm didn't realize TPU had a review on it, now if they just had one on the e34 DUO so i could compare lol
 

tabascosauz

Moderator
Supporter
Staff member
Joined
Jun 24, 2015
Messages
7,526 (2.34/day)
Location
Western Canada
System Name ab┃ob
Processor 7800X3D┃5800X3D
Motherboard B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact
Cooling PA120+T30┃AXP120x67
Memory 64GB 6000CL30┃32GB 3600CL14
Video Card(s) RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000
Storage 8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550
Display(s) 43" QN90B / 32" M32Q / 27" S2721DGF
Case Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5
Power Supply Corsair HX1000┃HDPlex
The U12A and E34 are both too new and the U12A too expensive for that. That said, they're not even close to positioned in the same category. The former weighs 1.2kg, has 7 heatpipes, and takes the fight to the D15 while being much smaller. The latter weighs only as much as the former's heatsink, has 4 heatpipes, and is priced and positioned to beat the 212 EVO.

All the run-of-the-mill open testbench reviews conducted so far put the E34 Duo almost on par with the Dark Rock Pro 4 in performance but obviously far inferior in noise. That's still within striking distance of the D15's performance, which is roughly equivalent to the U12A outside of noise. IMO more mass and 6+ heatpipes generally makes for more consistent performance on Ryzen, in closed cases.

But the reviews are done on Intel so if you are using the cooler in question on Ryzen 3000, you probably do want as much heatsink mass and heatpipes as possible to soak up the heat from the rough idle, fan curve tricks notwithstanding. That, and the A12x25 on the U12A is generally known to be inaudible at lower speeds. But I mean, there's also something to be said about a cooler that's competitive with the DRP4 while only costing $50-60. The U12A is around or above $100.
 
Joined
Jan 5, 2006
Messages
17,794 (2.66/day)
System Name AlderLake / Laptop
Processor Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U
Motherboard Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1)
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan
Memory 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MHz CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD
Display(s) 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy
Case Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion
Audio Device(s) Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick
Mouse Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless
Keyboard RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit
Software Windows 11 / Windows 10
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock
Joined
Nov 3, 2013
Messages
2,141 (0.56/day)
Location
Serbia
Processor Ryzen 3600
Motherboard X570 I Aorus Pro
Cooling Deepcool AG400
Memory HyperX Fury 2 x 8GB 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) RX 470 Nitro+ 4GB
Storage SX8200 Pro 512 / NV2 512
Display(s) 24G2U
Case NR200P
Power Supply Ion SFX 650
Mouse G703
Keyboard Keychron V1 (Akko Matcha Green) / Apex m500 (gateron milky yellow)
Software W10
Just wondering if the extra $60 is worth the Noctua one really.
Depends on what you plan to cool. For a 6 core Ryzen (or similar), definitely not worth it.
 
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Messages
7,412 (3.03/day)
Location
Poland
System Name Purple rain
Processor 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v
Motherboard Zee 490 Aorus Elite
Cooling Noctua D15S
Memory 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB
Display(s) Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG
Case P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans
Audio Device(s) K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless
Power Supply Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores A LOT
Both very good,af34 duo is very good value.
 
Joined
Oct 21, 2005
Messages
6,879 (1.02/day)
Location
USA
System Name Computer of Theseus
Processor Intel i9-12900KS: 50x Pcore multi @ 1.18Vcore (target 1.275V -100mv offset)
Motherboard EVGA Z690 Classified
Cooling Noctua NH-D15S, 2xThermalRight TY-143, 4xNoctua NF-A12x25,3xNF-A12x15, 2xAquacomputer Splitty9Active
Memory G-Skill Trident Z5 (32GB) DDR5-6000 C36 F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5RK
Video Card(s) EVGA Geforce 3060 XC Black Gaming 12GB
Storage 1x Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVMe (OS), 2x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB (data 1 and 2), ASUS BW-16D1HT
Display(s) Dell S3220DGF 32" 2560x1440 165Hz Primary, Dell P2017H 19.5" 1600x900 Secondary, Ergotron LX arms.
Case Lian Li O11 Air Mini
Audio Device(s) Audiotechnica ATR2100X-USB, El Gato Wave XLR Mic Preamp, ATH M50X Headphones, Behringer 302USB Mixer
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000W 80+ Platinum White
Mouse Zowie EC3-C
Keyboard Vortex Multix 87 Winter TKL (Gateron G Pro Yellow)
Software Win 10 LTSC 21H2
One thing to consider is a heatsink lasts a really long time. If the company that makes it continues to support the mounting system, you can use it on many new builds and sockets to come.
 
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
13,210 (3.81/day)
Location
Sunshine Coast
System Name Black Box
Processor Intel Xeon E3-1260L v5
Motherboard MSI E3 KRAIT Gaming v5
Cooling Tt tower + 120mm Tt fan
Memory G.Skill 16GB 3600 C18
Video Card(s) Asus GTX 970 Mini
Storage Kingston A2000 512Gb NVME
Display(s) AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Case Corsair 450D High Air Flow.
Audio Device(s) No need.
Power Supply FSP Aurum 650W
Mouse Yes
Keyboard Of course
Software W10 Pro 64 bit
I'd go the cheaper option and put decent fans on it.
 
Joined
Jan 5, 2006
Messages
17,794 (2.66/day)
System Name AlderLake / Laptop
Processor Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U
Motherboard Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1)
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan
Memory 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MHz CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD
Display(s) 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy
Case Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion
Audio Device(s) Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick
Mouse Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless
Keyboard RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit
Software Windows 11 / Windows 10
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock
I'd go the cheaper option and put decent fans on it.

These?
Capture.PNG


:D:D:D:D
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
15,929 (4.59/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
The U12A and E34 are both too new and the U12A too expensive for that. That said, they're not even close to positioned in the same category. The former weighs 1.2kg, has 7 heatpipes, and takes the fight to the D15 while being much smaller. The latter weighs only as much as the former's heatsink, has 4 heatpipes, and is priced and positioned to beat the 212 EVO.

All the run-of-the-mill open testbench reviews conducted so far put the E34 Duo almost on par with the Dark Rock Pro 4 in performance but obviously far inferior in noise. That's still within striking distance of the D15's performance, which is roughly equivalent to the U12A outside of noise. IMO more mass and 6+ heatpipes generally makes for more consistent performance on Ryzen, in closed cases.

But the reviews are done on Intel so if you are using the cooler in question on Ryzen 3000, you probably do want as much heatsink mass and heatpipes as possible to soak up the heat from the rough idle, fan curve tricks notwithstanding. That, and the A12x25 on the U12A is generally known to be inaudible at lower speeds. But I mean, there's also something to be said about a cooler that's competitive with the DRP4 while only costing $50-60. The U12A is around or above $100.

I already have an E34 DUO, got it on sale for $37. So technically I saved around $65 once tax is added in and such. Also, I don't mind a slightly higher fan curve... I suppose worst case scenario is it doesn't meet my needs when zen 3 launches and I simply sell it on here for $25ish and grab something beefier. Might finally just go balls to the wall with a arctic freeze II 360 AIO. or well, I will just see what happens, e34 duo might impress me. we will see
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
7,295 (3.87/day)
System Name Bragging Rights
Processor Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz
Motherboard It has no markings but it's green
Cooling No, it's a 2.2W processor
Memory 2GB DDR3L-1333
Video Card(s) Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz)
Storage 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3
Display(s) 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz
Case Veddha T2
Audio Device(s) Apparently, yes
Power Supply Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger
Mouse MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though....
Software W10 21H1, barely
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
You won't find a comparison that easily, for reasons already mentioned - but unless you're buying something HOT (so a 10-series Intel or 3900X) I'd just stick with the Arctic

I have a Noctua leftover from back when I actually needed it in 2008 but it's overkill now for my Ryzen 5. Noctua give me free adapter kits and I'm on my third free socket upgrade S775 > S2011 > 115X > AM4.

So yeah, it was expensive, but not as expensive as four seperate coolers would have been.
 

Regeneration

NGOHQ.COM
Joined
Oct 26, 2005
Messages
3,077 (0.46/day)

Noctua U12A is 5c cooler than Arctic Freezer 34.

Noctua also gives away mounting kits for future sockets.
 

sneekypeet

Retired Super Moderator
Joined
Apr 12, 2006
Messages
29,409 (4.47/day)
System Name EVA-01
Processor Intel i7 13700K
Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus Z690 HERO EVA Edition
Cooling ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 with Noctua Industrial Fans
Memory PAtriot Viper Elite RGB 96GB @ 6000MHz.
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090 24GB OC EVA Edition
Storage Addlink S95 M.2 PCIe GEN 4x4 2TB
Display(s) Asus ROG SWIFT OLED PG42UQ
Case Thermaltake Core P3 TG
Audio Device(s) Realtek on board > Sony Receiver > Cerwin Vegas
Power Supply be quiet DARK POWER PRO 12 1500W
Mouse ROG STRIX Impact Electro Punk
Keyboard ROG STRIX Scope TKL Electro Punk
Software Windows 11

Noctua U12A is 5c cooler than Arctic Freezer 34.

Noctua also gives away mounting kits for future sockets.

As the guy who wrote that article, that 5C gap only applies to the Intel CPU I tested with, on the 3600X the gap is much closer.
I cannot argue the support part of that comment though, but you are paying a premium for it.

This is more relevant to his situation.....
1591113534157.png

1591113548023.png


Keep in mind though, this is with presets of 3800MHz as the "stock" run on all cores, and 4200MHz on all cores for "OC". The voltages are in this article so you can see what I was doing. Too many variables in testing coolers with the chips designed to float around at multiple speeds. https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/...cpu-cooler-testing-and-methodology/index.html
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
15,929 (4.59/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Well as I said before I already own the e34 DUO, its still in box sealed. Seems like I made a hell of a deal for the price. Especially since I don't mind a more aggressive PWM fan curve. Now I just wait for new Ryzen :D
 

Regeneration

NGOHQ.COM
Joined
Oct 26, 2005
Messages
3,077 (0.46/day)
Well as I said before I already own the e34 DUO, its still in box sealed. Seems like I made a hell of a deal for the price. Especially since I don't mind a more aggressive PWM fan curve. Now I just wait for new Ryzen :D

If you want to my honest advice, return it and go for the high-end tier of CPU coolers.

Noctua NH-D15 is a bit expensive but worth every penny when you hit 4.5-5 GHz.
 

sneekypeet

Retired Super Moderator
Joined
Apr 12, 2006
Messages
29,409 (4.47/day)
System Name EVA-01
Processor Intel i7 13700K
Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus Z690 HERO EVA Edition
Cooling ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 with Noctua Industrial Fans
Memory PAtriot Viper Elite RGB 96GB @ 6000MHz.
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090 24GB OC EVA Edition
Storage Addlink S95 M.2 PCIe GEN 4x4 2TB
Display(s) Asus ROG SWIFT OLED PG42UQ
Case Thermaltake Core P3 TG
Audio Device(s) Realtek on board > Sony Receiver > Cerwin Vegas
Power Supply be quiet DARK POWER PRO 12 1500W
Mouse ROG STRIX Impact Electro Punk
Keyboard ROG STRIX Scope TKL Electro Punk
Software Windows 11
If you want to my honest advice, return it and go for the high-end tier of CPU coolers.

Noctua NH-D15 is a bit expensive but worth every penny when you hit 4.5-5 GHz.

Not even a possibility on ryzen on any air cooler.

@lynx29 if you own it use it. That one degree us not enough to shell out $100 for. Also if noise is of no concern, mount it up.
 
Top