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I'm looking for some serious contributors if they want to cooperate on such a project, I believe Win10 in it's current state is a useless OS, I just don't like it at all, it doesn't even allow me to stop basic services because of some stupid "we assume that you are too stupid to know what you're doing" error message, or such kindergarden nonsense, should be removed, forcefully if necessary.

I will not go into detail because I can't waste time for people who just give it a little thought and move on, that is reserved only for serious people who will jump onboard and stick with the project for at least several months, their contributions will be credited, you don't have stick with it forever or too long.

General Overview:
  • - This version is not meant for personal and private life, it is meant for maximum productivity, better control, and gaming.
  • - This version will not focus on security, if you are hardcore you know you're not suppose to use it for financial dealings, you are doing so at your own risk, all complaints are invalid and will be ignored.
  • - This is not meant for the general public, this is strictly made for hardcore PC-oriented users who don't need any mobile features, know how to set up classic sharing via password/username, and know how to do a lot of things better than the built-in gimmicks.
  • - Striving for smooth flow of work that enables high levels of multitasking
  • - Great for offline or LAN workstations too
  • - Flexibility, the things that I want to change that are only a matter of taste shouldn't be forced but optional


Here are only the highlights of some of the main changes:
  • - All pop-culture & dumb consumer gimmicks removed or disabled
  • - Removing all childish warnings and opening up more advanced control of the PC, putting warnings where really comes handy.
  • - Removing all private data mining, sharing, logging, transmitting (cortana, hidden feedback transmit)
  • - Removing all automatic mobile connectivity, unauthorized background transfers of any kind.
  • - Applying a strong hosts file to prevent sneaky callhomes to various microsoft servers
  • - Changing the default theme to Windows 7 including replacing all Icons to those of Win7 except new ones.
  • - Increasing the size of the "show desktop" button as it is in Windows 7
  • - Changing various defaults how menus and common utilities look, so you don't have to spend hours ticking boxes and dots once you install it (hundreds of useful little tweaks applied to registry)
  • - Windows Backup (Volume Shadow Copy) disabled, filesystem mess, if you are hardcore you know how to use Clonezilla.
  • - Removing a lot of forced pre-installed clutter, OneDrive Integration etc (unauthorized
  • - Restoring old Windows 7 Explorer behavior, keeping new stuff that is better if it'll even work as hybrid.
  • - Disabling "Full Row Select" in Explorer (huge multitasking boost)
  • - Settings adjusted to be ready for manual creation of username/password shares, disabling the homegroup gimmick.
  • - The mod will include core windows modifications and hacks (DLL), updating will not be possible otherwise it'll break the whole thing.
  • - Revering default CMD font back to classic (Win7 Consolas I think)
  • - Disabling MS GameUX DLL Injection for games (if it still exists for Win10)


Frequent Updates won't be needed once Win10 stabilizes and reaches the feature level that will be future proof, an optimal ISO has to be picked as a source, key features yet to be clarified are HDR and Rec 2020, I read that these may be part, but it is still some months before Redstone 2 is final, and even then I would wait some time to see if a huge bug is discovered in the days or weeks after.

Forget about Game Mode, that is a gimmick, all they do is stop some services, put some processes to suspend, and raise the game exe process priority. At least that's the 1.0 behavior, if they manage to significantly improve performance then they would be purposelly hampering things on non-game mode to make the game-mode gimmick look better for marketing purposes.
Or they may do something wilder, but probably some way the OS manages old Win32 apps and maybe does some DLL injecting, then it would be another story.

This ISO will already be set for max performance as default. But obviously something like Game-Mode won't be removed, if it's not a privacy or productivity or any annoyance issue it won't get removed.

Updates aren't that important, most of them are security measures and other gimmicks that don't mean much, if you use this ISO for personal, private and financial dealings then you have no validity to complain, you're doing that at your own risk and peril, I will not personally spend much time on improving security, but I will not be purposelly hampering it nor denying any slight improvement or compromise.

Primary goal is productivity and getting gimmicks out of our way.

"No update" complaints will also be considered invalid, I updated my Win7 only twice in the last 3 years, I got more problems than benefits. I believe this is a security theater, if some serious hackers wants to come into your PC, they will one way or another.

Plus updating an existing install was always buggy and crappy on windows and continues to be so, it is a waste of time. It is simpler, cleaner, more reliable to reinstall the OS completely in order to move to a new version.

Unfortunately with this mod, simply moving to a new source version will not be easy, it is basically recreating the mod, hopefully moving as much as possible, infact it will be faster because a lot can be reapplied without modification, but it still has to be checked if it works or not, so frequent updates would practically not be possible, unless you have a team of 10-20 paid workers.

But if you are serious about wanting to use such a version of the OS, you can help as well even if you don't know specifically about Windows modding, I don't either, but I started preparing and reading up on the SDK tools, I can teach you and give you tasks if you don't know what to in the beginning, it's not that hard, you'll learn as the project evolves. But you need to have wide ranging windows PC utility experience with various common programs, troubleshooting experience, and ofcourse the windows registry, those are main requirements. Some programming skills are welcome too, we may require various setup utilities and automation scripts when needed.

If you share the same opinion, welcome aboard!

Serious people who don't have any doubts should contact via PM, if you want to know more or have questions and you just want to cheer from it from afar, then just discuss in the forum.


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How the mod would be released - legal stuff.

DRAFT:
The delivery process wouldn't contain any full ISOs, even tho ISO sharing is now okay, but only for Win10 previews and insider stuff I believe, it would contain Windows 7 data, therefore the safest way would be for the mod would only be released as a script patch, that's the hardest, a difference patch would eliminate the need for Win7 source. The hardest method would require the user to supply their legal copies of Win10 and Win7 ISOs or insert DVDs so the installer can use these sources to create a modified Win10 ISO, how they got their Source ISOs shouldn't be my business nor responsibility, they have to follow the instructions of the installer, if they don't, then it's their fault if they break laws.

The system would be meant for legal users and wouldn't support any ways to use it otherwise, a disclamer would be placed with warnings that that the authors do not allow the installer to be used for any other purpose, provided as is, at their own risk and responsibility.


A modified ISO would then be created at your own computer for your own private use, as if you made it, you just happened to use some automation to get there faster, all operations between the legal copies were technically done on your PC, on your land, in your wires, with your electrons, in your house, and you own legal licenses of the copies of products you used to do some mashed potatoes, if you must, and the created program isn't going to be used for any actions that could harm any public infrastructure, institutions or any other 3rd parties, shouldn't be an issue.
 
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Not trying to be a jerk here, but what's the situation with reference to legality in regards to manipulation of intellectual property? Is that a concern? Genuinely curious

Just to be clear I agree that windows 10 in its current state is like a racehorse with two broken legs
 

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Not trying to be a jerk here, but what's the situation with reference to legality in regards to manipulation of intellectual property?

considering system admins build WIMs like this to deploy to users (and I dont mean tax prep specialists) some of which to industries like the military. and those admins have yet to upload these wims to torrent freak or the pirate bay. Id say pretty illegal.

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Search Windows 10 tweaks. Should be able to do everything(or just about if not) you want to do already.

IOW, you're probably not even close to the first person to consider modding/tweaking W10 to suit your personal tastes. I've read so many posts/threads on it it'd make your head spin.
 
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make a tool/program that does it on clean installs, a lot easier. no updates kills this for me.
 
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Sorry guys, didn't mention delivery.

considering system admins build WIMs like this to deploy to users (and I dont mean tax prep specialists) some of which to industries like the military. and those admins have yet to upload these wims to torrent freak or the pirate bay. Id say pretty illegal.

Not trying to be a jerk here, but what's the situation with reference to legality in regards to manipulation of intellectual property? Is that a concern? Genuinely curious

Anyone can mod anything for non-profit private use, even if they say it's licensed, that's what enables legality of bypassing locks on DVDs for hidden DLC in video games. That's what enables HomewBrew and Emulators, if you own your own land, property, and the hardware, then you control what kind of signals go through your hardware in the wires.

For example, I don't allow that my ethernet cable contains this pattern of hex anywhere at any time: (just one out of a few thousand)

Code:
74 65 6C 65 6D 65 74 72 79 2E 6D 69 63 72 6F 73 6F 66 74 2E 63 6F 6D

It is my ethernet cable, my copper wire, in my wall, of my house, on my land, in my country.


DRAFT:
The delivery process wouldn't contain any full ISOs, even tho ISO sharing is now okay, but only for Win10 previews and insider stuff I believe, it would contain Windows 7 data, therefore the safest way would be for the mod would only be released as a script patch, that's the hardest, a difference patch would eliminate the need for Win7 source. The hardest method would require the user to supply their legal copies of Win10 and Win7 ISOs or insert DVDs so the installer can use these sources to create a modified Win10 ISO, how they got their Source ISOs shouldn't be my business nor responsibility, they have to follow the instructions of the installer, if they don't, then it's their fault if they break laws.

The system would be meant for legal users and wouldn't support any ways to use it otherwise, a disclamer would be placed with warnings that that the authors do not allow the installer to be used for any other purpose, provided as is, at their own risk and responsibility.


A modified ISO would then be created at your own computer for your own private use, as if you made it, you just happened to use some automation to get there faster, all operations between the legal copies were technically done on your PC, on your land, in your wires, with your electrons, in your house, and you own legal licenses of the copies of products you used to do some bologneze spagetti, and the created program isn't going to be used for any actions against any servers or any 3rd parties, contained in your own house, shouldn't be an issue.


Search Windows 10 tweaks. Should be able to do everything(or just about if not) you want to do already.

The point is, everyone has to do this manually every time they want to reinstall Win10, or Win7 , most don't bother to take the time and do it really good.


Still not good enough. One of these would be used for Source. Looking at EDU since it doesn't have Cortana, with that thing missing by default it would save a ton of time.
 
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Anyone can mod anything for non-profit private use, even if they say it's licensed, that's what enables legality of bypassing locks on DVDs for hidden DLC in video games. That's what enables HomewBrew and Emulators, if you own your own land, property, and the hardware, then you control what kind of signals go through your hardware in the wires.

Yeah, that isn't even close to true with software. And considering Microsoft keeps pretty type tabs on just putting out the standard ISOs to Windows, there is no way this will fly.

Plus, most of what you are complaining about are completely non-issues. After a re-install it takes about 10 minutes to get everything done. I don't see any point in spending hours and hours of work to figure out how to get it all working during the initial installation.
 
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Well, this whole Copyright thing is getting way out of hand anyway, I'll stop here to not derail. But US laws don't apply here so anyway I can do whatever I want and I will to get this thing working as I want, I'm not going to sit here and stagnate, I'm going to do it for myself either way, I just wanted to get there faster if someone would help, but also to put it out for others who would benefit and enjoy this and I believe that if this thing happens it would be in thousands, unfortunately the no-update thing would scare off quite a lot of people, sorry I can't help there. Well you could try to update and hope that it doesn't run SFC SCANNOW and starts recovering mismatched components, then hope the update doesn't replace some of those modified components, or worse that all updates scan for changes and force the update to also fix all the mismatches on system.

They wanted to Copyright news article titles so Drudge wouldn't be able put them on his site. It's getting ridicolous.

considering system admins build WIMs like this to deploy to users (and I dont mean tax prep specialists) some of which to industries like the military. and those admins have yet to upload these wims

Oh ofcourse, only they are the privileged ones to have these advanced WIMs, but we consumer pesants aren't left with any options.

See, there is no Ultimate equivalent, which was an Enterprise-type Retail version. They are moving more and more to limit the advancement that "ordinary" people can get to, dumbing things down, more into the kindergarden. They decide what settings I will use, they decide that I need to connect my phone, all about them, nothing about us.

So this is also not only about my needs, this is about making a philosophical point, proving it it's possible to do things differently without their help, proving it it not them that control what happens and what can happen in the PC space. So this gives me even more reason to push even harder. To break that idea that "oh now it's a Win10 era now you can't do this anymore".

People need to learn how to be themselfs, to not adapt to all these things these companies put out, which is clearly biased into their ways and beliefs, their position is not neutral.


MS:
LTSB is not intended for deployment on most or all the PCs in an organization;
Because then we can't mine your data, uncover trade secrets and maybe sell it for profit.


They offer these versions for the enterprise so they don't whine, and consumers are going to whine less by default. So that's why I'm here to whine because we should!

I don't want to be mean here, not at anyone in this thread, just saying, time to stand up sooner or later, what about those clauses that prevent from filing class action, how the hell is that allowed at all. If people don't whine when there's a good reason what will they start copyrighting furtniture as well ? So I would have to wait for 10 seconds before this automatic door on this closet opens because it's the default option of what they decide would be the only one available for the dirty retail pesants. The enterprise master race could configure it to 3 seconds.
 
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This is basically what he wants, and it already exists.

It doesn't feature Cortana, either, or any of the things you seem upset with.

Shame it's hard to get in consumer hands.
 

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Oh ofcourse, only they are the privileged ones to have these advanced WIMs, but we consumer pesants aren't left with any options.

I make this WIMs. Let me help you out.

At the time zone selection screen press CTRL-SHIFT-F3 during install.

Do whatever you want. I suggest using power shell to remove metro app installation and deregistering new user accounts from having my them installed.

Run sysprep after your done tinkering. I suggest using the shutdown switch I always miss those pesky reboots.

Then capture your WIM. Of course I do it via WDS but DISM can capture one. If you would like to create a capture image for WDS I suggest the server 180 trial. Wouldn't want silly consumer peasants too have access too free tools.

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Yeah, I started reading up on those terms and tools, I just didn't start anything since I kept postponing, I need a win10 install for Win10ADK since it won't install on Win7 and I believe 8.1 won't work for 10, but I didn't know about that CTRL-SHIFT-F3 thingy, thanks,

If you're one of those that has a ton of experience in this... if you disagree with my legal stuff draft, but what is then your idea, if you're even interested in this enough, what's your idea of how it could be legally released?

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Yeah, I started reading up on those terms and tools, I just didn't start anything since I need a win10 install for Win10ADK, but I didn't know about that CTRL-SHIFT-F3 thingy, thanks, hardcore.

No need ctrl shift f3 install ADK manipulate OS uninstall ADK sysprep
 
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No need ctrl shift f3 install ADK manipulate OS uninstall ADK sysprep

That's a bit confusing don't you think, It's quite late here, usually not up that long.

I believe there's 2 ways right ? And you're saying which way should I choose?

(anyway it's late, later)
 

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Let's leave politics out of this pls;)
 
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IOW, you're probably not even close to the first person to consider modding/tweaking W10 to suit your personal tastes. I've read so many posts/threads on it it'd make your head spin.

I know it's not easy, that's why I'm not eager to throw all my time into it for what would be a free-of-charge thing ofcourse. If the work spreads out to a number of people it's a lot easier for everyone. But the wish is quite big, I'm thinking a lot early, I don't plan on a new PC at all, it's not like I must move away from Win7.

An alternative idea could be to split all these bullet points into their own projects, and then people pick which ones to apply to their legal copy of the installation. With a good guide and master

This is already out there, but it's not packaged that you just download and apply, it's just an instruction how to do it manually, that's what it always was and it won't save time at all or make any difference, there's a lot more of these fiddly diddly things to do now that the OS is anti-advanced-user and pro-popculture,

I think it's a reasonable compromise.
 
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Just join and visit a Windows 10 forum, OP your not the first to think of this. and a lot of time can besaved this way.
 
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Just join and visit a Windows 10 forum, OP your not the first to think of this. and a lot of time can besaved this way.

But see maybe I wasn't clear enough, I know how to mod it the old fashion way, to apply registry tweaks and everything ontop of a fresh default install, that's the problem, it's too time consuming, and I have to do it all over again when I would get a new PC for example.

The default install is always designed for the mass consumer.

I just have a different opinion that maybe would it be better to do it really good once, and never fiddle with it again, or only, update small parts that would be just a minor effort later.

It is, extremely tedious process that I'm just getting sick of, the namings, the whole terminology in the regsitry just stupid to me, things are so disorganized, things are kinda thrown all over the place, the OS has functions that are hidden completely because the registry keys for them don't even exist by default, one of the most stupid things I have ever seen, I would want to think that you have to be someone who's purposelly trying to screw with people to do this, but I can't make that accusation a 100%.

I am watching these Win10 forums out ther, however there's a lot of these non-advanced people who are there only because they're gadget freaks who jump on the latest trends, they people aren't interested making it behave and look like Win7, most of them are interested about cuddly puddly updates about Media Player and fiddly diddly cortanas and search functions and other on-surface and connectivity gimmicks.
 
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