i saw newegg has the 4850's listed, but i want to get a 4870. maybe buy another in a few months for xfire when prices drop a bit. also maybe be able to sell my 8800gt while it still has a bit of value. altho with craigslist, you will be able to get good prices for a while. 2 days ago i sold a xfx 8800gs for $130, and a month ago sold a x1950pro agp for $150. lol i love nubs, they are my favorite people.