Aorus X570 Master

[jesdals]

Joined the F11 and had some stability issues - found that I had to disable the Dram Power down setting

 

[Zach_01]

Yes, high speed memory or tight timings often (if not every time) requires to do so... suggested by RyzenDRAMcalc also...

 

[Calmmo]

Always had to have it off in order to get stability at 3733.
Also in my case overvolt oc'd ram to 1.39 (from 1.37 which is otherwise 100% stable) to solve cold boot issues.

 

[jesdals]

New chipset drivers from AMD

Currently testing my self

 

[Chomiq]

New chipset drivers from AMD

Currently testing my self

I believe this was pushed internally by windows a week or so ago.

 

[jesdals]

I believe this was pushed internally by windows a week or so ago.

Oh I see, well everything seems stable at my current settings - havent seen any improvements though

 

[Chomiq]

Oh I see, well everything seems stable at my current settings - havent seen any improvements though

That's because it is all in one driver. They might have fixed something on trx40.

 

[Chomiq]

F12f BIOS is now listed on support page for my Elite, I'll wait few days to see if any issues pop up before updating from F10.

 

[MonsterMod]

I hope this isn't off topic for this thread.

I finally pulled the trigger and built my new system. It posted on the first try but I did have to RMA the motherboard without even taking it out of the box because Newegg sent me one with cosmetic damage and no protective plastic film on the rear IO armor. I got the new board in one day and it's perfect, it's even the revision 1.1 with the thunderbolt header and it came with BIOS F11 so I don't even need to flash the BIOS, here it is on my work bench...

I haven't set up my RAM yet and I need some advice, is everything stable enough now to just set an XMP profile or should I use the RAM calculator? I'm not really into tweaking things or squeezing every drop of performance out of it, I just want it to run at the speed I paid for (3600mhz CL16) and to be stable. I've been following this thread for a while so I know about disabling the DRAM power down option. My ram kit is a F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC

F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC - Overview - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Engineered and optimized for full compatibility on the latest AMD Ryzen platforms, Trident Z Neo brings unparalleled DRAM memory performance and vibrant RGB lighting to any gaming PC or workstation with latest AMD Ryzen CPUs and AMD DDR4 motherboards.

www.gskill.com

The last time I checked I didn't see it on the QVL for the motherboard.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[Zach_01]

I hope this isn't off topic for this thread.

I finally pulled the trigger and built my new system. It posted on the first try but I did have to RMA the motherboard without even taking it out of the box because Newegg sent me one with cosmetic damage and no protective plastic film on the rear IO armor. I got the new board in one day and it's perfect, it's even the revision 1.1 with the thunderbolt header and it came with BIOS F11 so I don't even need to flash the BIOS, here it is on my work bench...

View attachment 148476

I haven't set up my RAM yet and I need some advice, is everything stable enough now to just set an XMP profile or should I use the RAM calculator? I'm not really into tweaking things or squeezing every drop of performance out of it, I just want it to run at the speed I paid for (3600mhz CL16) and to be stable. I've been following this thread for a while so I know about disabling the DRAM power down option. My ram kit is a F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC

F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC - Overview - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Engineered and optimized for full compatibility on the latest AMD Ryzen platforms, Trident Z Neo brings unparalleled DRAM memory performance and vibrant RGB lighting to any gaming PC or workstation with latest AMD Ryzen CPUs and AMD DDR4 motherboards.

www.gskill.com

The last time I checked I didn't see it on the QVL for the motherboard.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Even if its not on the board QVL, its on the G.Skill QVL for the entire Aorus X570 line so it must work without issues for rated speed and timings.

F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC - QVL - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

QVL (Qualified Vendor List) for F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC. Find compatible motherboard or hardware for this product.

www.gskill.com

First run it with XMP, do your things, your benchmarks and/or your gaming, and see if everything is ok. This way you will have a starting point if you want further tuning of the ram sub-system. Just make sure along with 3600 XMP to run FCLK=1800MHz and UCLK==MEMCLK.

AIDA64 will give you a memory subsystem performance


Have RyzenMaster as occasional report/monitoring tool for timings and some ram/ram_controller/Infinity_fabric related voltages (DRAM, SOC, UMC, CLDO VDDP, CLDO VDDG)

MEM VDDIO = DRAM voltage
VDDCR SOC = CPU SOC voltage
CLDO VDDP = UMC (Unified Memory Controller / UCLK) voltage
CLDO VDDG = IF (Infinity Fabric / FCLK) voltage

I strongly suggest to use HWiNFO64 also to monitor the entire system as the info that provides is unparellel with anything else.





And you should fill your system specs with detail as possible in your profile. That whould help others help you, without asking questions about your system all the time.

 

[MonsterMod]

Thanks. It's late and I just spent a couple hours installing drivers, Firefox, Kaspersky, and activating/updating Windows. I'll look at your post more closely tomorrow and I'll update my profile with my system specs.

Thanks again for all the info and the fast reply!

 

[Zach_01]

Thanks. It's late and I just spent a couple hours installing drivers, Firefox, Kaspersky, and activating/updating Windows. I'll look at your post more closely tomorrow and I'll update my profile with my system specs.

Thanks again for all the info and the fast reply!

Take your time! there is no need or point for rush...

 

[Chomiq]

F12f BIOS is now listed on support page for my Elite, I'll wait few days to see if any issues pop up before updating from F10.

Updated today, so far so good.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I hope this isn't off topic for this thread.

I finally pulled the trigger and built my new system. It posted on the first try but I did have to RMA the motherboard without even taking it out of the box because Newegg sent me one with cosmetic damage and no protective plastic film on the rear IO armor. I got the new board in one day and it's perfect, it's even the revision 1.1 with the thunderbolt header and it came with BIOS F11 so I don't even need to flash the BIOS, here it is on my work bench...

View attachment 148476

I haven't set up my RAM yet and I need some advice, is everything stable enough now to just set an XMP profile or should I use the RAM calculator? I'm not really into tweaking things or squeezing every drop of performance out of it, I just want it to run at the speed I paid for (3600mhz CL16) and to be stable. I've been following this thread for a while so I know about disabling the DRAM power down option. My ram kit is a F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC

F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC - Overview - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Engineered and optimized for full compatibility on the latest AMD Ryzen platforms, Trident Z Neo brings unparalleled DRAM memory performance and vibrant RGB lighting to any gaming PC or workstation with latest AMD Ryzen CPUs and AMD DDR4 motherboards.

www.gskill.com

The last time I checked I didn't see it on the QVL for the motherboard.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Personally I wouldn't bother with XMP, I never got it working, but then again, I don't have QVL RAM.
However, there was no problem once I used the calculator and I have in fact tweaked my memory to perform much better than it's rated at.

Beyond that, from the past couple of UEFI updates, it's been a rock solid board, not had a single BSOD or similar weird stuff since AMD sorted out their things in the AGESA and Gigabyte worked out their parts in the UEFI.

 

[neko77025]

I just got had to RMA my Master ... It died on me feb 18 , Shipped it for RMA Feb 20. Just got back the replacement (they could not fix it ) yesterday. Took A month. they told me about A week .. however I know how RMA go most of the time. I could not be without A computer for more then A few days (disabled / my computer is my life). So I order I cheap MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus.

What I have learned. The master is overpriced , the MSI runs just as good. However the master looks way better. The only issue I had with with MPG vs Master.. was the realtek nic ... did not like working with unifi and it taking A month + having to call and ask about it.

The other issue I have is with the replacement board .. it has A scratch on it .. no1 will see it .. but I can feel it !!!!!

Truth be told , I am thinking about selling the Master and just keeping the MPG

BTW, G.Skill Trident Z Neo seem to work very well with ryzen 3XXX / X570 as far as XMP. I have owned 2 of Neo . A 2x8gb 3600/c16 and A kit of 2x16gb 3600/c16 ... XMP has worked on all 3x Masters I have owned and the MPG X570. and I have found no difference in XMP vs calculator with them. (I have the F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC right now) Love them

 

[TheLostSwede]

I just got had to RMA my Master ... It died on me feb 18 , Shipped it for RMA Feb 20. Just got back the replacement (they could not fix it ) yesterday. Took A month. they told me about A week .. however I know how RMA go most of the time. I could not be without A computer for more then A few days (disabled / my computer is my life). So I order I cheap MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus.

What I have learned. The master is overpriced , the MSI runs just as good. However the master looks way better. The only issue I had with with MPG vs Master.. was the realtek nic ... did not like working with unifi and it taking A month + having to call and ask about it.

The other issue I have is with the replacement board .. it has A scratch on it .. no1 will see it .. but I can feel it !!!!!

Truth be told , I am thinking about selling the Master and just keeping the MPG

BTW, G.Skill Trident Z Neo seem to work very well with ryzen 3XXX / X570 as far as XMP. I have owned 2 of Neo . A 2x8gb 3600/c16 and A kit of 2x16gb 3600/c16 ... XMP has worked on all 3x Masters I have owned and the MPG X570. and I have found no difference in XMP vs calculator with them. (I have the F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC right now) Love them

I agree that it's a pricey board and other boards would most likely work nearly as well, but it does come with a fair few extras that your MSI board doesn't have.
MSI also seems to be a lot slower in getting out new UEFI updates these days, whereas Gigabyte has upped their game.
Personally I need the x4 PCIe slot, as I have a 10Gbps NIC that goes in there. I also find the audio is a lot better than on any other motherboard I've ever had.
However, it is a premium product and not everyone needs the features on offer and this is why there's a range of boards out there.

 

[MonsterMod]

Take your time! there is no need or point for rush...

Thanks again I just copied all the text in your post and the screen shots into a folder in my build folder so I'll try to set up the RAM soon. I also filled in my specs, I just copied and pasted a lot of it out of my PCPartPicker list so I hope the format of everything is ok since it seems to be a little different than some I've looked at.

Edit: I forgot to mention in my original post that I knew that my RAM kit was on G.Skills QVL and since they say it's made for Ryzen 3000 I thought it was probably pretty safe.

Personally I wouldn't bother with XMP, I never got it working, but then again, I don't have QVL RAM.
However, there was no problem once I used the calculator and I have in fact tweaked my memory to perform much better than it's rated at.

Beyond that, from the past couple of UEFI updates, it's been a rock solid board, not had a single BSOD or similar weird stuff since AMD sorted out their things in the AGESA and Gigabyte worked out their parts in the UEFI.

Thanks. I'm glad the early growing pains have been fixed. I have to say I was a little nervous about that in the beginning and that's probably why I waited so long to build my new system.

If I decide to use the calculator do you have any quick instructions. I could look it up but I remember reading a while back that you need to use a program (I forget the name but I think it's the one people use to see what die they have) and export a file then import that file into the calculator.

I just got had to RMA my Master ... It died on me feb 18 , Shipped it for RMA Feb 20. Just got back the replacement (they could not fix it ) yesterday. Took A month. they told me about A week .. however I know how RMA go most of the time. I could not be without A computer for more then A few days (disabled / my computer is my life). So I order I cheap MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus.

What I have learned. The master is overpriced , the MSI runs just as good. However the master looks way better. The only issue I had with with MPG vs Master.. was the realtek nic ... did not like working with unifi and it taking A month + having to call and ask about it.

The other issue I have is with the replacement board .. it has A scratch on it .. no1 will see it .. but I can feel it !!!!!

Truth be told , I am thinking about selling the Master and just keeping the MPG

BTW, G.Skill Trident Z Neo seem to work very well with ryzen 3XXX / X570 as far as XMP. I have owned 2 of Neo . A 2x8gb 3600/c16 and A kit of 2x16gb 3600/c16 ... XMP has worked on all 3x Masters I have owned and the MPG X570. and I have found no difference in XMP vs calculator with them. (I have the F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC right now) Love them

I'm glad you finally got your board and I hope if you decide to keep it you don't have any problems with it.



It makes me a little nervious to think my board could just die for no reason. Until this build, my first complete build, I've always just bought HP Pavilions and put them in my own case and they usually last 8-10 years.

Thanks for the info on the Neo RAM kits, I'll probably finish setting things up and beating Windows into submission in the next couple days then I'll decide what I want to do with my RAM.

 

[jesdals]

RIP Master

My board died today, no post code or any thing. Testet with two different set of memory and two psu´s - not a happy guy rigt now. Looking forward to several weeks of delay due to rma and lack of replacement part.

Well that was not a impressive run for a almost 500 euro part

 

[oxrufiioxo]

That sucks man I just picked up a second one due to liking the first one so much....

 

[Calmmo]

Yeah my first master was DoA, too small a sample i know, but the failure rate here seems to be rather high
I had to wait 1.5month my self back then to get a replacement.

 

[learners permit]

https://hardforum.com/threads/gigab...nt-power-on-solution.1993194/#post-1044546163
This might help.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

*gulp* I have this board and have been dealing with a multitude of problems trying to get my 5700 XT to work on it. I've RMA'd my card, the Sapphire Nitro+ 5700 XT, THREE times now, got a new card back each time (including today) and the card STILL doesn't work with my board, yet my RX 580 and GTX 1660 Ti both work without a problem. At some point, it becomes more than just "bad luck" and I think I've honestly reached the point where I think it might actually be my X570 Aorus Master that's misbehaving, NOT my 5700 XT as I've thought.

 

[jesdals]

Got a replacement board

Temps are still high on chipset - so are going to do some casemodding next week

Notice max temps after one hour of gaming

Radeon 7 is a hot item to handle

 

[jesdals]

Rebuilding my new setup - made me make a change of case for the build

Unfortunately my new Fractal design Meshify C did not arrive in perfect condition

After the above testing i took a closer look at the board

I realised that using the top PCIe slot would block most of the air intake to the chipset cooler, so I tried to use the lower slot. Not having any noticeable loss of performance - i did still not se a large drop in my temps, so it was time for some more air input.

Using a jigsaw and a drill i decided to cut a hole in front of the cpu to get a better flow and add two 80mm blowers directed at the gpu

Now haveing 3x 120mm intake in front, one 140mm in the bottom, two 140mm outtake in top and one 120mmnd two 80mm in the rear.

In my old build I had a blower behind the cpu and haveing fun with the jigsaw made me copy that again

Using a slim 120mm Noctua cooler with 15mm hight made it possible to fit a cooler behind the motherboard tray

The new coolers are control by a seperate device leaving only the the two cpu coolers controled by the motherboard

Even with these measures it still sits around 60c in windows and will go to around 73 during hard testing with furmark for about two ours, but that still better than the starting point. Will do some more testing with the placement of gpu and see if theres is any gain in using the second slot.

 

[Chomiq]

What the hell happened to that case?