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Apple Admits to Purposely Slowing Older iPhones

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Apple on Wednesday said a software feature released last year makes your phone operate more slowly to offset problems with its aging lithium ion battery.
Apple's iOS software, starting with last year's iOS 10.2.1, included better power management capabilities, the company says. The operating system slows down your device to prevent it from shutting down, Apple says, but only in cases of cold temperature, a low battery charge or very old batteries.

Last year's software applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S Plus and SE. This year's iOS 11.2 extended the feature to the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. It will be applied to other Apple devices in the future.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-slows-down-older-iphone-battery-issues/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b
 
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It's weird seeing this ,because my iPhone (which is admittedly older) used to really be good. it was fast and I never had a problem with it ,but over the last few months I've been noticing that it's slow as sh!t, for lack of a better term .it could be just paranoia but it has been slow and the batteries fine on mine takes a charge and it holds it like it should.
 

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Never touched them. I however noticed on Google that their Map tool has gotten sluggish. It's not the phone as everything else is smooth, it happens on S7s even
 
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Remember when they were spinning it as "It's a feature to make your battery last longer when it's old". Bullmanure! If it really was a feature, phone should display a message "Battery capacity has degraded and is operating in a low speed mode to extend autonomy". Or be a documented feature from day one. You don't accidentally find out about such "feature" which coveniently makes user think their phone is slow and needs replacing with a brand new $800 phone.

If my battery is old and degraded, I'd still want phone to operate at same speed, so I know battery degraded because it'll last less. But it'll at least still be usable and fast even if I have to charge it twice a day. This is one of things why I'm not touching Apple. They are rotten to the core and I don't care what anyone says.
 
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I've noticed this as well. It started few months ago.
Generally, this is all pretty sad, because Apple is once again messing their clients pretty badly. What a weird company.
And it's an issue for me, because I bought a 5s a year ago, so the battery is almost new - not 4 years old like Apple must have assumed.
 
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my phone downloaded ios 10 a few times to upgrade... seems a good call to not accept it...
 

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I'd have agreed with Apple's strategy if only they'd been open about what they're doing, had given the user an option to switch the feature off and optionally show how much the iPhone has been slowed down in percentage terms. I reckon iPads are likely to work the same way and maybe their laptops too.

Does the slowdown go away when the iPhone is plugged in, though? I haven't seen that explained anywhere.
 
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I'd have agreed with Apple's strategy if only they'd been open about what they're doing, had given the user an option to switch the feature off and optionally show how much the iPhone has been slowed down in percentage terms. I reckon iPads are likely to work the same way and maybe their laptops too.

Does the slowdown go away when the iPhone is plugged in, though? I haven't seen that explained anywhere.

If it doesn't go full speed when connected, then it's not a power (battery) saving feature, making their statement to be a feature one big fat lie.
 
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I dont have a iphone or would never use one. My last phone was a Samsung S5, I finally upgraded to a LG G5 2 months ago. The S5 was getting slugglish, I think at least 40% slower. Google maps would lag and some games would do the same. Maybe this issue is not only apple related but industry wide.
I'm not going to bother to find out, I already sold the phone to someone else with a new battery.
 

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If it doesn't go full speed when connected, then it's not a power (battery) saving feature, making their statement to be a feature one big fat lie.
They didn't say anything about that? Don't make assumptions. That's why I put it as a question.
 
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I've noticed this as well. It started few months ago.
Generally, this is all pretty sad, because Apple is once again messing their clients pretty badly. What a weird company.
And it's an issue for me, because I bought a 5s a year ago, so the battery is almost new - not 4 years old like Apple must have assumed.

Disclaimer: I am, admittedly an Apple hater, specifically a "new" Apple hater. The company hasn't been the same since Jobs passed away. That said...

I think the really sad thing here is, people continue to buy Apple's products despite the crap they pull, and continue to pull. Almost like Intel to a certain extent, but that's another topic entirely.
 
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Like all technology things will slow down with age. I love my iPad mini 2 and nothing is going to change that.
 
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I feel like while this is an acceptable explanation, from a hardware standpoint, it kinda kills two birds with one stone for Apple. One, it prevents the phones from doing weird stuff because of the drop in voltage; two, it forces people to buy a new phone. It's a win-win for them.
 

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I'd have agreed with Apple's strategy if only they'd been open about what they're doing, had given the user an option to switch the feature off and optionally show how much the iPhone has been slowed down in percentage terms. I reckon iPads are likely to work the same way and maybe their laptops too.

Does the slowdown go away when the iPhone is plugged in, though? I haven't seen that explained anywhere.

Or a better option would be to, you know, make the battery user replaceable...

Though I have to admit, I am a bit of a hypocrite there, as I just bought an LG G6, which doesn't have a replaceable battery. But the LG G6 is IP68 rated, and they had to seal the battery compartment to get that rating.

If it doesn't go full speed when connected, then it's not a power (battery) saving feature, making their statement to be a feature one big fat lie.

http://www.techradar.com/news/apple-might-be-slowing-down-your-old-iphone-on-purpose

According to the article at TechRadar, even just getting your battery replaced causing the phone to return to its normal speed. So it does seem to be battery related, but they shouldn't be covering their poor design by purposely reducing performance, making people consider buying new hardware they don't really need.

Like all technology things will slow down with age. I love my iPad mini 2 and nothing is going to change that.

There is a big difference between hardware just not being able to keep up with the software and hence the software seeming slugging and purposely limiting performance when the hardware is really perfectly capable.
 
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It doesn't matter what apple does to its system's, people are going to keep buying the (in my opinion) complete crap they sell for top dollar prices. Last good product they created in my opinion is the 80 gig Ipod Classic that did nothing but play music. Since then i cant stand using their products.
 
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If Apple, and other makers, made the phone so USERS/OWNERS could replace the batteries this problem wouldn't exist or even need to. Planned obsolescence, in my eyes, is little more than delayed theft. I haven't touched an iPhone since the battery problems of the 3GS. Apple's moronic business model should be illegal as it victimizes the buying public.
 

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If Apple, and other makers, made the phone so USERS/OWNERS could replace the batteries this problem wouldn't exist or even need to. Planned obsolescence, in my eyes, is little more than delayed theft. I haven't touched an iPhone since the battery problems of the 3GS. Apple's moronic business model should be illegal as it victimizes the buying public.

I do agree, but then again I bought an LG G6 which doesn't have a replaceable battery either(my first ever phone that doesn't have a replaceable battery). But at least the LG G6 has a good reason for it, it is IP68 rated, and it couldn't get that rating without a sealed battery compartment.

The iPhones don't have any legit reason to seal the battery other than planned obsolescence.
 
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I do agree, but then again I bought an LG G6 which doesn't have a replaceable battery either(my first ever phone that doesn't have a replaceable battery). But at least the LG G6 has a good reason for it, it is IP68 rated, and it couldn't get that rating without a sealed battery compartment. The iPhones don't have any legit reason to seal the battery other than planned obsolescence.
That's a fair point. Still, the business model of forcing the public to buy a whole new phone just to solve a battery problem is reprehensible, economically flawed and environmentally irresponsible. Even though Apple does offer a battery replacement service at their stores, it costs between $80 & $120 and is only available to iPhone 6 and newer models. Samsung has no replacement program at all.
Razor's newest offering is very, very tempting. But again, no user replaceable battery. The two phones I currently use, both have newer batteries as the original's went bad. Both are less than two years old. Batteries wear out no matter how well they're made, laws of physics. It is entirely more logical and responsible to make phones with user replaceable power cells. I'll get off my soap box now..
 

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Or a better option would be to, you know, make the battery user replaceable...

Though I have to admit, I am a bit of a hypocrite there, as I just bought an LG G6, which doesn't have a replaceable battery. But the LG G6 is IP68 rated, and they had to seal the battery compartment to get that rating.
Well yeah, exactly. Trouble is all* the decent phones nowadays have sealed batteries, so you basically can't avoid it. :ohwell: I'm in this situation myself with the Moto X Style.

*I'm sure some smartypants is gonna point out the one high end phone with a removable battery, lol.
 
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Although I hate Apple and their anti competitor marketing strategies we all need to look the problem and take some responsibility. I can't blame them for wanting to be rich. Why do you need a $600 phone and replace it every two years? It's a phone. I don't really need to split an atom or play the latest game while I wait for the light to change. I have a friend that uses a $23 Nokia and pays $12 a month with no contract. I'm not saying we should all do that but really what do you need? Google maps is nice, the internet is handy when you want to prove you friend wrong. Really! I see people with a brand new I phone and drive a SUV and then think there do so much for the environment because they recycle and are vegan. And BTW even a sealed battery can be replaced.
 
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we all need to look the problem and take some responsibility.
Perhaps for those of us who are part of the problem maybe. But we, the public, can not hold ourselves accountable for the actions of business entities.
I can't blame them for wanting to be rich.
No, but we can blame them for being irresponsible, and greedy beyond the scope of appropriate and ethical boundaries. Apple is not the only guilty party in such a description, but they are the ones in the context of this article.
And BTW even a sealed battery can be replaced.
But at what cost? You'd have to find someone to do it for you. Unless you're willing and have the skills, knowledge and tools, good luck with that on sealed phones. And that goes right back to planned obsolescence. Phone makers count on that dynamic to drive future sales. As I said before, it is little more than delayed, manufactured theft.
 
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Perhaps for those of us who are part of the problem maybe. But we, the public, can not hold ourselves accountable for the actions of business entities.

No, but we can blame them for being irresponsible, and greedy beyond the scope of appropriate and ethical boundaries. Apple is not the only guilty party in such a description, but they are the ones in the context of this article.

But at what cost? You'd have to find someone to do it for you. Unless you're willing and have the skills, knowledge and tools, good luck with that on sealed phones. And that goes right back to planned obsolescence. Maker are counts on that dynamic to drive future sales. As I said before, it is little more than delayed, manufactured theft.


All I can say is I have not given Apple a single dime. I shop locally, I stay out of Wally world and any major chain if I can help it. But I do spend a load on electronics.
 

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I do agree, but then again I bought an LG G6 which doesn't have a replaceable battery either(my first ever phone that doesn't have a replaceable battery). But at least the LG G6 has a good reason for it, it is IP68 rated, and it couldn't get that rating without a sealed battery compartment.

The iPhones don't have any legit reason to seal the battery other than planned obsolescence.

the iphone 7 and up are IP67 rated. IP68 just means 1.5m at 30min IP67 is 1m at 30min. They have just as much reason to seal the battery as your phone. Probably not so much for the previous ones. I only looked at the specs for the 7 and up though.
 
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