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I'm sorry but at the time the Cube debuted it was cutting edge. This is just an updated Cube man.
I have to agree, also I think easy rhino likes anything with an Apple logo on it.
 

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#78
Nice!

I'm about as anti-Apple as people get, but I have to hand it to them: this is some beautiful engineering. Unfortunately, I'm not optimistic about seeing one in real life due to the price I'm assuming these will go for.

Still, nice setup!
 

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...and if Apple put a HEPA filter in it, it could be an air purifier too. :p
It looks nifty but I'll reserve judgment to see how it actually fairs as far as performance and temperatures are concerned.
 

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Reminds me of the "Steam cube" that was being shown a couple months back.
 

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#83
I can't wait for this thing to go under iFixit's knife.
Exactly its black magic there.
Lets say i had loads of money, i would buy this just to appreciate the technical complexity and how they crammed so many things there.
But this wont change my mind on regular desktops (but we are the 1%), still while not rich i prefer regular resktop.
 
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I'm sorry but at the time the Cube debuted it was cutting edge. This is just an updated Cube man.
I just had a blast reading this whole thread... priceless.

Is the iPhone 6 going to look like this? :laugh:


 

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"Can't innovate my ass..."

I have to agree with Phill's statement. This is (sort of) the direction the pc form factor should have moved towards 5 years ago! It's not just better in terms of looks, thermal dissipation, energy efficiency, noise levels and physical volume but it also provides a solution to overall component costs. Wouldn't it be great if we didn't have to pay for new CPU/GPU coolers EVERY TIME we purchased a new component???

IMHO the ATX form factor is just hopelessly outdated and inefficient, and I'm sure I'm not the only one here who thinks that...
 

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I'm wondering how fast that fan is going to have to spin to dissipate the heat of 12 cores and 2 gpu's considering there is only about 12 fins on that heat sink.
 
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this is an excellent product!!
Yeah, well, I have to support Macs in a professional high-end production environment (and have for a long time) and, as it stands today, I do not agree nor do any of my coworkers.
 
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I expect one of two things on this one:

1. It will be slow compared to a proper configured Xeon workstation with a roomy case. I'm talking of 2.5ghz-ish ULV or something and I'm not sure if 12 cores will help with that on single threaded performance?! Its supposed to be workstation and not a number cruncher. A number cruncher will probably be equipped with at least 2 xeons, but thats obviously not the case here... (but who knows, maybe Apple sorted it all out and optimized OS-X to a point where each and every workload is fully optimized for parallel execution... :cool:)

2. They have a really powerful turbine in there with an equally powerful woofer for active noise-cancelling (more likely).
 
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I bet it will cost around $6 grand?
 

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So they took the one product line they had left that at least partially appealed to enthusiasts because it allowed easy upgrades to CPUs and Video Cards, and turned it into a popcorn maker looking POS that is impossible to upgrade. Genius.
 
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This thing is going to be released when they have their new version of Final Cut Pro ready...
So, it's safe to assume that Final Cut will have some heavy duty OpenCL integration, so that the dual GPUs are utilized for processing.
For the people who will use Final Cut Pro, with this new Mac Pro (and I think that there are quite a few companies and independents out there that will), that is a huge selling point, even if it is not upgradable.

The people that frequent this site are not the people to whom this will be marketed. Apples and Oranges.
 

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So they took the one product line they had left that at least partially appealed to enthusiasts because it allowed easy upgrades to CPUs and Video Cards, and turned it into a popcorn maker looking POS that is impossible to upgrade. Genius.
Their "market research" probably indicated that 99% of the people will not upgrade their Mac Pro over its lifetime or something like that.
 

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So they took the one product line they had left that at least partially appealed to enthusiasts because it allowed easy upgrades to CPUs and Video Cards, and turned it into a popcorn maker looking POS that is impossible to upgrade. Genius.
You must be a PC enthusiast. IE, a member of a group that Apple is not trying to attract...
 
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So they took the one product line they had left that at least partially appealed to enthusiasts because it allowed easy upgrades to CPUs and Video Cards, and turned it into a popcorn maker looking POS that is impossible to upgrade. Genius.
Yeah I got another group--enterprise. Apple could not make it any more clear that they only care about consumer electronics now, desktops included. OS X "Server" is now procured at the App Store. Granted it was never that relatively robust, but still...