Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by dom99, Feb 12, 2014.
I have one in my Silverstone SG10B case for my Intel Build
Ah I have an SG08 But I put the fan in my Aerocool main rig.
my SG09B has a AP181 as main intake fan i second that also have 2 AP121 but only 1 in intake for gpu the 2nd one is for exhaust, and i know a AP in exhaust is pointless but i dislike unmatched pair
i just wish they did 80/90mm version (afaik they didn't or none that i know of) so i could get rid of the 2 80mm 2k rpm Be Quiet Shadow wings i have, not that they are bad or whatever but i like "all of the same brand" ofc i could find some SST 80/90mm but i had those BQ under the hand at the moment i did my build.
now you make me want to get 2 of those ...
I'm the same, can't stand having a case filled with unmatched fans!
derp... the FM83 is available nowhere in switzerland
Max operating temp for the A10-7850k is 73c. I forgot to mention it earlier, sorry.
My AsRock mini-itx + 5500 + stock hsf would idle at something insane in the BIOS (65C?). It seems to be a common complaint about AsRock and apu boards. Also the WattMeter showed like 100W at the wall. When in Windows it actually idles down to 25W or so. When I pried the stock hsf off, the grey goo pad had half dried. Installed a better hsf and paste, which knocked down the temp while burning in the BIOS. I think you are alright at 49-50C in the bios.
Just an update, after installng all windows updates and latest version of Asrock A-tuning it now shows my 7850k idles at 23 degrees and the same for my motherboard. Those numbers sound much more agreeable.
I think I'm happy with the build now, no BSODs and good temps, amazing what up to date drivers/OS/MB Bios will do
EDIT: Max temp seen in gaming so far is 37 degrees, but that's on hitman absolution, I will test it with BF4 tomorrow
well my 1st thing when i got the board and the cpu was to pass the bios on Rev.2.0 since out of the box the FM2A88M Ex4+ doesn't handle the 7850K (even if i will use it with the X4 760K for a while) idling i am also around 23-26°
The bios version I am using is Rev 2.1 now.
I read somewhere that the original bios shouldnt have an issue using the 7850k up untill the point where it is possible to install the new bios put I had such hassle with it.
Have you solved the problem yet?
I got mine on 25 *C idle with the 212 Hyper evo (4.3ghz).
The stockcooler is trash... =p
Figured I should add some information that not everyone is aware of in regards to thermals for these systems. Sometimes temps can be higher than normal because plastic film applied to heatsink when the heatsink was produce was not removed when the APU ITX PC was built.
This has been seen in some Zotac APU ITX PCs where after removing the film temperatures were significantly lower afterwards and this is likely to be seen in similar machines from other manufacturers.
Altering a part of the machine which involves the heatsink can void the warranty and if a plastic film can be seen on the CPU cooler it would be advised to have an approved service provider for the appropriate manufacturer of the product to sort this out so warranty isn't voided. Having the product checked for thermal issues can also resolve this issue if the film on the heatsink isn't seen.
Of course if the system isn't pre-built, is custom built (by owner through purchase of individual parts) or is a pre-built system which is going to be modified this wouldn't really matter.
As is already know many third-party options with alternative heatsinks and thermal paste is often better than the standard thermal setup in standard pre-built APU ITX PCs.
Hi yeh got it sorted, reapplied thermal paste a few times and found it was due to using too much, which is odd as I usually get the quantity correct. I think with the particular cooler I am using it just performs better with the tiniest amount of paste, people say a grain of rice or a pea sized blob, I think you need more like a quarter of a pea if that for optimum temps.
Now idling at 28 degrees and 52 max when gaming.
Only thing I wish it did better was overclock the igp, can't even go one step up in the bios to 757mhz or something it just crashes during gaming.
Overal very impressed with this setup though and looking forward to Carizzo which should have new high speed memory to make gaming on it even better
I was having similar heat issues just like you.
A few thing that helped:
1. Called guy who sold me mobo and found out many overclock settings were turned on. When back and made sure all these were turned off (settings in bios and switched on mobo)
2. I agree with other people on here who mentioned it being diff to find a good temp program for theses APUs, the stock temp gadget that came with the mobo install cd seems to be the best bet. After I got it installed, temps were reading 32C from a previous 45C in the bios menu. So be sure to use temp monitoring sw that offered in mobo disc or on manf website.
3. Make sure that thermal paste has been applied correctly.
You mentioned multiple errors because of the way you installed windows or something???? Maybe a complete fresh Windows install, not to mention of the multiple updates, maybe chipset driver updates, and you should be completely smooth sailing. Hope something here helps.
FWIW, I have an A8-3850 on a Gigabyte board inside a Prodigy case with stock cooler & Artic 5S + 1 additional fan, a R9-270x, and 8GB of Gskill running W8.1Pro. It idles at ~36c and occasionally jumps to ~50-60c under multi-app/full load situations....... but of course YMMV
A few notes since I have had a few similar problems:
1: The bios makes temps shoot up on APUs especially on Asrock and Gigabyte from my experience. Sounds stupid but I can even give an example on the fly with a 6800K and gigabyte FM2+ board that my friend uses. If I go to the bios it starts going up and shows 40-50's as idle stock settings. Though it seems there was another issue and you have resolved it already.
2: 7850K is decent and can run on a low profile cooler as the cooler you mentioned is still better than the junky stock cooler. I actually ran one with the FX high end stock cooler for a friend since I had a few spare so I could get a slight overclock on the GPU for him. Just be sure to have some airflow to remove the air from the system.
3: The max operating temp of the chip from what I have understood is as stated above 72.4C.
4: You can overclock the GPU quite nicely but you need to increase the GPU voltage a little bit to achieve it. I have hit 1gz+ on all 3 machines I have built for friends using the 7850K one even on the Cooler Master Seidon 240mm cooler achieved ~1100mhz stable without much effort (Felt I could do more).
Remember it's an APU both the CPU and iGPU part heat it up.
Yes, use HWInfo as it's the most accurate and it monitor iGPU temp as well also remember to monitor the motherboard sensor instead of the cpu onboard one, max reported temp for 6800k at least is 74*C and i get around 37*C to 40*C idle with overclock and ambient temp at 30*C to 34*C.
Yes and no, as they may install a lot of bloatware or task the computer too much, i uninstalled AI Tuner for the same reasons.
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