ARCH Linux Experience

[Ja.KooLit]

Hey Guys,

I made a video last month for installing arch the "easy way" which originally I made it for my friends to install and have experience with Arch Linux and thought I am gonna share with you.

for connecting to wireless network if you dont have LAN

About the video, once you booted in Arch via USB, you just need to type archinstall and then answer the questions. Now just a little bit of warning, its better if you install this in a separate hard drive or USB or VM. because then if you dont want, your main OS wont be affected.

Main difference between a normal arch install and the guided installer: Not so much difference. Perhaps main difference is hard drive or partitioning, mounting options, minimum packages.

I believe not so many TPU have arch or any arch-based experience.

Now, about Arch Linux. Perhaps many of you have heard that its not stable, nor easy to break nor and so on and so forth. With my nearly 5 months of using arch or any arch-based distro, I have not experience any major breakdown. Of course I had some difficulties because I was forced to search and read alot and that is because I have never tried any Arch and I have been using ubuntu-based distro for the past years.

Anyway, I will just answer questions if you have.

 

[bug]

Ha, archinstall. I installed Arch before that was available

But thanks for sharing, Arch is a great Linux experience (the best, imho, ymmv), if you manage to get it installed.

And about Arch breaking, the only real danger is using a new kernel that bugs out on your particular hardware config. Installing an LTS kernel alongside mitigates that problem.
And the upside: you really only get what you actually install, so it's very light on resources. The packages are also cutting edge, a new kernel release will be packages for Arch in under a week.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

Ha, archinstall. I installed Arch before that was available

But thanks for sharing, Arch is a great Linux experience (the best, imho, ymmv), if you manage to get it installed.

And about Arch breaking, the only real danger is using a new kernel that bugs out on your particular hardware config. Installing an LTS kernel alongside mitigates that problem.
And the upside: you really only get what you actually install, so it's very light on resources. The packages are also cutting edge, a new kernel release will be packages for Arch in under a week.

I have been using new kernel all the time and didnt experienced any breakdowns.

unfortunately, I cant use LTS because my computers desktop and laptop are new and most of the amd patches are in newer kernel. My laptop in particular needs a kernel 5.11 or newer since there is a patch which benefit it. I am now waiting on 5.13 as there is a big update for cpu and gpu as per linus. So kinda "excited" Tried compiling of course but I run into issues like my qemu/kvm not launching for example.

Yeah archinstall was only released april 1 this year. And thats also before I installed on my computers. I have created my own script so pretty much can reinstall or install arch easily. Although that archinstall is a nice thing so alot can try without going through arch way of installing

 

[bug]

I have been using new kernel all the time and didnt experienced any breakdowns.

Been using it for some years now with no issues either. But each time a new kernel is released you read these stories... I'm sure they affect only a handful of people, but I'm glad I'm not part of that handful.

unfortunately, I cant use LTS because my computers desktop and laptop are new and most of the amd patches are in newer kernel. My laptop in particular needs a kernel 5.11 or newer since there is a patch which benefit it. I am now waiting on 5.13 as there is a big update for cpu and gpu as per linus. So kinda "excited" Tried compiling of course but I run into issues like my qemu/kvm not launching for example.

Well, you know the saying: if it works, don't fix it

Yeah archinstall was only released april 1 this year. And thats also before I installed on my computers. I have created my own script so pretty much can reinstall or install arch easily. Although that archinstall is a nice thing so alot can try without going through arch way of installing

I'll have to give it a try sometime. Having installed Arch from scratch once, I'm not keen on doing it again. I was considering Manjaro instead, but now that we have archinstall, it may be the better option.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

I am so amazed how Gaming in Linux has really improved alot.

Did some benchmark on Shadow of Tomb Raider, tried to played both on my Arch and Windows 11 and I noticed that it is more smooth in Linux than in Windows. I ended up doing a benchmark, on both windows 11 and Linux

 

[Easy Rhino]

I am so amazed how Gaming in Linux has really improved alot.

Did some benchmark on Shadow of Tomb Raider, tried to played both on my Arch and Windows 11 and I noticed that it is more smooth in Linux than in Windows. I ended up doing a benchmark, on both windows 11 and Linux

Could it have performed better on Linux because Windows 11 is still not finished?

 

[Ja.KooLit]

Could it have performed better on Linux because Windows 11 is still not finished?

a possibility but then if it performs well in windows 10 that means it should perform worst in any games in windows 10 vs windows 11 early benchmarks? Most of the time, windows 11 have gaming performance uplifts by small percentage.

Hardware unboxed have made a video about it few weeks or days ago

 

[Deleted member 212040]

I still think EndeavourOS is the best way to start with Arch. It offers a great customizable installation process and a friendly community. As someone who's never interacted with Arch before and only Ubuntu/Debian based distros, they sure were a lot of help.

 

[bug]

I still think EndeavourOS is the best way to start with Arch. It offers a great customizable installation process and a friendly community. As someone who's never interacted with Arch before and only Ubuntu/Debian based distros, they sure were a lot of help.

The best is relative in this context, it depends on how strong your Linux-fu is.
Personally, I think having an option that will meet your needs regardless of what these are (ease-of-use, stability, cutting-edge, light on resources, headless server, etc.) is what makes Linux great and rather unique. At the same time, there are those that look at the same arguments and consider them a weakness because they lead to fragmentation. And they're not wrong, either.

TL;DR In the Linux world, there's something for everyone.

 

[Liquid Cool]

TL;DR In the Linux world, there's something for everyone.

Agreed.

This is from July, but I actually only just saw this video from night.fox for the first time this evening. I don't know how I missed this before.

Truly enjoyed every minute of it and frankly speaking...I'd like to see more. .

After having been with Debian based distros since the beginning(ubuntu 12.04) of my own personal journey into linux...now that I'm in the world of all things Arch. I'm seeing a lot of the same commands, just different verbiage.... Arch is different, but in a way...familiar to some degree.

As I mentioned in the screenshot thread. I'm parking myself in Manjaro for the time being. It feels like home to me, but I'll be working my way to Arch just as I did with debian...from ubuntu.

Regards,

Liquid Cool

 

[xrobwx71]

Could it have performed better on Linux because Windows 11 is still not finished?

What are we seeing on the Windows side that looks sharper and has more color saturation?

 

[PaulieG]

Other than trying Ubuntu for like 5 minutes several years ago, I've never used Linux. I just wiped a drive and installed Manjaro not knowing a damn thing. I have no idea what I'm doing.

 

[ThrashZone]

Other than trying Ubuntu for like 5 minutes several years ago, I've never used Linux. I just wiped a drive and installed Manjaro not knowing a damn thing. I have no idea what I'm doing.

Hi,
Op was recommending manjaro a couple months ago on the linux thread now arch lol
This is one of the main problems with linux all the distro spawns and people bouncing back and forth on recommends of which one is said to be best

All look like nothing but desktop themes but no is another linux spawn instead lol

I looked for a linux distro usage statics chart and what I found was pretty funny anyone have a reliable distro usage chart ?

 

[Ja.KooLit]

Hi,
Op was recommending manjaro a couple months ago on the linux thread now arch lol
This is one of the main problems with linux all the distro spawns and people bouncing back and forth on recommends of which one is said to be best

All look like nothing but desktop themes but no is another linux spawn instead lol

I looked for a linux distro usage statics chart and what I found was pretty funny anyone have a reliable distro usage chart ?

my first Arch based was Manjaro. And I was drawn to Arch since I was intrigued by lots of people saying how difficult arch is, being a bleeding edge distro, unstable etc etc. But having experienced it, it was actually easiest to maintain, granted I spent time playing around with it, so I have learned alot.

"Best" distro is subjective. Unless you get out of your comfort zone, defining best is what people actually knows about such distro.

Perhaps one reason why Arch is so much in talk now is because of steam deck OS

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Ran into distro watch
It was really funny and sad at the same time that the top distro only showed 3500 users lol

 

[Deleted member 202104]

Hi,
Ran into distro watch
It was really funny and sad at the same time that the top distro only showed 3500 users lol

The numbers at distrowatch are nothing more than hits per day to that distros page at the site. It has nothing to do with user base. It's kind of pointless.

 

[kruk]

The problem with DistroWatch is that it counts only users that visit that site. It's not really relevant to the market share and/or the number of distro users:

The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring the popularity of Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch.com was accessed each day, nothing more.

Sadly, at the moment there seems to be no reliable method of counting Linux users.

/edit: heh, ninjaed by weekendgeek

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Knew it couldn't be right that was the funny part

 

[Ja.KooLit]

I still think EndeavourOS is the best way to start with Arch. It offers a great customizable installation process and a friendly community. As someone who's never interacted with Arch before and only Ubuntu/Debian based distros, they sure were a lot of help.

Endeavour is also great and so as Arco. Arco developer is doing alots of videos and he spent so much time tinkering Arco. So I believe, for new to Arch, arco is better since developer is very active.

 

[R-T-B]

What are we seeing on the Windows side that looks sharper and has more color saturation?

Well, there is HDR, which linux still completely lacks.

It's the only thing keeping me at present.

 

[Deleted member 202104]

Well, there is HDR, which linux still completely lacks.

It's the only thing keeping me at present.

There is hope:

Red Hat Is Hiring So Linux Can Finally Have Good HDR Display Support - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

 

[R-T-B]

There is hope:

Red Hat Is Hiring So Linux Can Finally Have Good HDR Display Support - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

Godspeed.

 

[Deleted member 202104]

Godspeed.

Agreed. For me, HDR is more important and has a greater visual impact than RT and high refresh rate (>120Hz) combined.

 

[xrobwx71]

Well, there is HDR, which linux still completely lacks.

It's the only thing keeping me at present.

I wonder what would happen to the numbers if that was turned off? I suspect Windows's numbers and mentioned "smoothness" would look better.

 

[R-T-B]

I wonder what would happen to the numbers if that was turned off? I suspect Windows's numbers and mentioned "smoothness" would look better.

HDR? It doesn't have a performance penalty unless the game implents it, and even then it is minor.