Arctic Passive Cooling Laptop Modification

[Mussels]

i know it won't be ideal. but im not securing or mounting it, that would be impossible with a mod like this to my knowledge. something heavy on top of the wraith prism possible to help push it down some more. don't know yet.

that's why title thread was originally noctua nh-p1, cause that fanless cooler is heavy enough... to push down enough on direct laptop die. to negate need for mounting

that pressure wont be even at all, it's gunna tilt one direction or another, not giving equal pressure to the whole die. you'll end up bad cooling at best, and at worst with a smashed die, or the cooler outright falling off and taking out half a laptop

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes there is. Have you not heard of screw removal kit. You can even drill it out with reverse drill.

I recommend screw removal kit for you. ...Don't try to drill it out, "not recommended" for you..

You're missing a point. This is a last-hurrah for that laptop. He wants to beat down the temps to show the laptop who's boss after which he's moving on.

 

[Mussels]

Just find a flat, *wide* heatsink not a tall one - thermal adhesive it on there and blow a fan onto it.

Even a 60mm copper heatsink with a baby noctua (one for CPU one for GPU) has gotta be better than that stock trash.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Just find a flat, *wide* heatsink not a tall one - thermal adhesive it on there and blow a fan onto it.

Even a 60mm copper heatsink with a baby noctua (one for CPU one for GPU) has gotta be better than that stock trash.

That would work!

 

[Mussels]

Like uhhh, the stupid copper plates i stuck to the back of my 3090 before i put it on water

These are advertised as for cooling 2.5" hard drives for some reason, and are the wrong size for your task - but the thermal adhesive was strong AF, and could likely handle the output from mere laptop parts




Could we.... slap copper goodness onto the existing heatsinks? Replace the fans with big fucking desktop fans that cool the entire thing?

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Low profile enough?

 

[yotano211]

Ah, you did an edit. Didn't see that.

Ouch. Yup, you're in a bit of a pickle...

No, no. Don't say that! There are plenty of great gaming laptops out there that don't overheat and are a delight to use.

Lexluther is changing his mind about gaming laptops, did hell freeze over.

 

[AleXXX666]

I am just being budget minded at the moment. but I seriously want to do this project... seems like a lot of fun... lol

plus I want the satisfaction of seeing that 95 celsius hitting like 40...

for fun i did "gaming laptop chiller" once. i put like a plain ice (not a dry one) from freezer to zipping packet, then put this packet in a plastic cover from sweets box then put laptop on this "laptop stand". lappy has instantly got rid some 10-15 C off, but ice melted fast and gonna replace produced water in package with new ice from freezer... lol but still way more effective than your average aliexpress laptop stand with fans

 

[lexluthermiester]

Lexluther is changing his mind about gaming laptops, did hell freeze over.

What the blue blazes are you on about? I own two gaming laptops. I use to live life on the move all the time and during that time I owned a desktop replacement laptop(Alienware 18" model). Quit acting like you know me...

 

[Rithsom]

Low profile enough?

Good idea. A down-draft cooler like this one would also help cool nearby things, like VRAM chips. Much better solution than a huge tower cooler, IMO.

 

[delshay]

You're missing a point. This is a last-hurrah for that laptop. He wants to beat down the temps to show the laptop who's boss after which he's moving on.

Fair enough. But it's sad to see such a laptop that only has cooling issues go this way.

Thread can continue with all-sorts of ideas to aid cooling.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thread can continue with all-sorts of ideas to aid cooling.

Oh gee may we? Thank you sir....

 

[claes]

I dunno — the reason heatsinks work at all is due to mounting pressure. Maybe if you zip-tie the heatsinks, over the top and around the entire PCB, you might be able to get enough pressure, but you’ll probably want to cut a steel plate or similar in the shape of the motherboard to prevent the pcb from snapping in half. Relying on gravity will not produce strong enough contact.

You might be better off building a cheapo aluminum loop from aliexpress. Maybe the performance can make up for the lack of pressure.

Great idea theoretically, but without mounting points for the brackets to build pressure it’s hard to imagine a workaround (for me at least).

 

[yotano211]

What the blue blazes are you on about? I own two gaming laptops. I use to live life on the move all the time and during that time I owned a desktop replacement laptop(Alienware 18" model). Quit acting like you know me...

I was taking about the lexluther from the superman movies

 

[delshay]

Oh gee may we? Thank you sir....

Don't worry, no one get's away that easy. ..I may hand out a award to the user that suggests the best/worse mod that breaks it in under 5 minutes.

 

[Space Lynx]

Low profile enough?

this would require mounting otherwise it would be lopsided.

I think maybe a Wraith Prism would work or the Noctua slim tall ones. with a bit of adhesive glue on outside and reg paste in the middle.

I dunno — the reason heatsinks work at all is due to mounting pressure. Maybe if you zip-tie the heatsinks, over the top and around the entire PCB, you might be able to get enough pressure, but you’ll probably want to cut a steel plate or similar in the shape of the motherboard to prevent the pcb from snapping in half. Relying on gravity will not produce strong enough contact.

You might be better off building a cheapo aluminum loop from aliexpress. Maybe the performance can make up for the lack of pressure.

Great idea theoretically, but without mounting points for the brackets to build pressure it’s hard to imagine a workaround (for me at least).

it will work. I'm confident I will get temps down to 60-70 celsius at least from their current 95+

we will find out soon, placing the order in a day or two.

 

[yotano211]

this would require mounting otherwise it would be lopsided.

I think maybe a Wraith Prism would work or the Noctua slim tall ones. with a bit of adhesive glue on outside and reg paste in the middle.



it will work. I'm confident I will get temps down to 60-70 celsius at least from their current 95+

we will find out soon, placing the order in a day or two.

I don't think it will go well for the laptop. How will you get the laptop stable so it won't lean over.
Even if you game with the keyboard and mouse set, are they both wireless.

 

[claes]

it will work. I'm confident I will get temps down to 60-70 celsius at least from their current 95+

we will find out soon, placing the order in a day or two.

With that attitude anything is possible lol

I’m not saying it won’t, but that mounting pressure will impact how effective the solution is overall. That’s all. I’ve mounted tower heatsinks and AIOs onto GPUs and seen a world of difference, but relying on zip-ties to do so I’ve also seen the difference between a little force and a lot (and a more significant improvement when an actual mount is used, like D-woods old GPU brackets). IIRC Intel spec is 14-54 lb, which is probably more than gravity will provide, but I don’t know anything about laptop specs for these things or if they even have an IHS etc

Best of luck!

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[Space Lynx]

With that attitude anything is possible lol

I’m not saying it won’t, but that mounting pressure will impact how effective the solution is overall. That’s all. I’ve mounted tower heatsinks and AIOs onto GPUs and seen a world of difference, but relying on zip-ties to do so I’ve also seen the difference between a little force and a lot (and a more significant improvement when an actual mount is used, like D-woods old GPU brackets). IIRC Intel spec is 14-54 lb, which is probably more than gravity will provide, but I don’t know anything about laptop specs for these things or if they even have an IHS etc

Best of luck!

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there is no IHS. it will be direct die. i'll be removing the laptop heatsink and laptop fans. direct die should mean much less pressure is needed. but again we will find out. i will conquer this laptop one way or the other!

I don't think it will go well for the laptop. How will you get the laptop stable so it won't lean over.
Even if you game with the keyboard and mouse set, are they both wireless.

it will be flat, it will be turned over on its back (so the display can never be opened)and on a flat desk. in theory it should be just fine and work just fine.

my mom has some Crystal shaped animals, (they are super small and super heavy) so I am considering taking the heaviest two that will fit, and sitting them directly above on the center of the Noctua's. probably won't need to do that, but every little bit will help.

i'll post results and pictures next week. let's see if this monstrosity works or not... LOL

if it does work... keep in mind we are going from tiny little laptop heatsink that is shared by the CPU and GPU to two giant Noctua's with dedicated fans for each... the temp differential should be substantial if this works... like overkill substantial... lol but we will see.

 

[Caring1]

Just find a flat, *wide* heatsink not a tall one - thermal adhesive it on there and blow a fan onto it.

Even a 60mm copper heatsink with a baby noctua (one for CPU one for GPU) has gotta be better than that stock trash.

Something like these would make it look a bit steampunk.

 

[Space Lynx]

Something like these would make it look a bit steampunk.
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I feel like that might be a little too small, whole point is to achieve a massive differential on air. So I can laugh manically at this inanimate object and let it know it has been conquered, after all these years, it has been conquered.

 

[claes]

there is no IHS. it will be direct die. i'll be removing the laptop heatsink and laptop fans. direct die should mean much less pressure is needed. but again we will find out. i will conquer this laptop one way or the other!

Oh, I thought you might be going heatsink to heat pipes. If you’re completely disassembling the laptop heatsinks then there’s no reason you can’t drill into the desktop heatsink or brackets/make a custom bracket to not only have better contact but also avoid any funny balancing acts. All you’ll need is a drill and some screws to match the mounting points on the motherboard.

One of my favorite youtuber’s:

 

[Space Lynx]

Oh, I thought you might be going heatsink to heat pipes. If you’re completely disassembling the laptop heatsinks then there’s no reason you can’t drill into the desktop heatsink or brackets/make a custom bracket to not only have better contact but also avoid any funny balancing acts. All you’ll need is a drill and some screws to match the mounting points on the motherboard.

One of my favorite youtuber’s:

I don't have the tools or skillset for any of that. lol I appreciate you trying though.

also, I sort of want to frankenstein it... will be fun... or so I keep telling myself LOL

balancing act shouldn't be an issue... the thermal adhesive glue should keep it upright just right... and paste in middle will take care of better heat transfer.

 

[claes]

I won’t try to convince you further, but I promise you’re more than capable Just grab a marker and the mounting brackets, put dots on the brackets where the pcb holes are for the laptop heatsinks, drill, bobs your uncle. Can’t take more than 10 minutes

Maybe you’ll need thinner screws than provided to fit through the PCB, but whatever works for you!

Looking forward to your results in any case!

 

[Space Lynx]

I won’t try to convince you further, but I promise you’re more than capable Just grab a marker and the mounting brackets, put dots on the brackets where the pcb holes are for the laptop heatsinks, drill, bobs your uncle. Can’t take more than 10 minutes

Maybe you’ll need thinner screws than provided to fit through the PCB, but whatever works for you!

Looking forward to your results in any case!

I can't stop watching this guy now... on my third video... why have you done this to me??? also he is a genius lol