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Polaris... come on Asrock, still those R9 290/GTX 980 kind of cards in performance..

I still wonder what Gainward would say since they had that Phantom brand on their cards..

You mean Palit, since Gainward is wholly owned by Palit microsystems ltd. But in reality I don't really know, they seemed to discontinue Phantom after Nvidia 900 -series.

It's not even the first company to use Phantom name on video cards, Pine 3D used Phantom name on their cards(Current XfX).

this is Polaris 20 XTX, XTR is what W1zzard reviewed before and those are the binned ones.

Binned or not. Using higher binned chip with this design would be waste of silicon. But glad you say that, so in which bin is that "Reference" RX 580 scores done with?
 
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You mean Palit, since Gainward is wholly owned by Palit microsystems ltd. But in reality I don't really know, they seemed to discontinue Phantom after Nvidia 900 -series.

It's not even the first company to use Phantom name on video cards, Pine 3D used Phantom name on their cards(Current XfX).
I know that it's Palit's brand, I still say Gainward ;)

Ah, didn't know that XFX (Pine is legacy... I don't use that brand name on my messages) used that also!
 
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You mean Palit, since Gainward is wholly owned by Palit microsystems ltd. But in reality I don't really know, they seemed to discontinue Phantom after Nvidia 900 -series.

It's not even the first company to use Phantom name on video cards, Pine 3D used Phantom name on their cards(Current XfX).



Binned or not. Using higher binned chip with this design would be waste of silicon. But glad you say that, so in which bin is that "Reference" RX 580 scores done with?


Looks like Palit is out of business, I dont see their cards anywhere anymore. Not sure what they did with Gainward.
As far as Asrock, would be nice if they do a super OC model, like the oc-formulas on their motherboards..
 

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Looks like Palit is out of business, I dont see their cards anywhere anymore. Not sure what they did with Gainward.
As far as Asrock, would be nice if they do a super OC model, like the oc-formulas on their motherboards..
Palit pretty much anywhere else but the US market.
 

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Requires a rebate, they get 300 bux off you up front
Sure some play that game, some don't care too... Just by Asus offering it tells me they have volume in the channel (risk) and aren't looking to get stuck with them, for some reason.
 
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Yup, never saw a Palit branded card in the us as they were gainward
Without getting in a huge discussion about this again, Ill take your word for it. :kookoo:
 

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Without getting in a huge discussion about this again, Ill take your word for it. :kookoo:
Nope, Gainward is Europe only (mostly?) for years. If they've been in the US, they must have pulled out 15 years ago. While I'm not sure about Palit, I did buy one of their card in Canada at some point. It would be really strange for them to sell in Canada, but not US.

PS Not trying to be a smartass, just adding what I know.
 
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Nope, Gainward is Europe only (mostly?) for years. If they've been in the US, they must have pulled out 15 years ago. While I'm not sure about Palit, I did buy one of their card in Canada at some point. It would be really strange for them to sell in Canada, but not US.

PS Not trying to be a smartass, just adding what I know.

Well yeah Palit is a OEM too. I.E. some of the PNY geforce line cards are obviously made by Palit and some might have done by PC Partner. Other than that are there any Galax/kfa² cards on US? At one point they were acquired by Palit(2008 or so), current situation is a bit murky though. But yeah way off topic now. Slightly more on topic, was it hd4000 series the last Radeon which Palit made? And when club3d stopped making video cards. I remember them dropping nvidia at some point, but they seems halted making any at all!?
 

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Well yeah Palit is a OEM too. I.E. some of the PNY geforce line cards are obviously made by Palit and some might have done by PC Partner. Other than that are there any Galax/kfa² cards on US? At one point they were acquired by Palit(2008 or so), current situation is a bit murky though. But yeah way off topic now. Slightly more on topic, was it hd4000 series the last Radeon which Palit made? And when club3d stopped making video cards. I remember them dropping nvidia at some point, but they seems halted making any at all!?
Kfa2 is europe only i believe, kfa2 is galax but the europe version
 
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Kfa2 is europe only i believe, kfa2 is galax but the europe version

Correct, they tried to unify Galaxy and KFA2 branding changing name to Galax but it was already taken on Europe so back to kfa2 they went. Which is the reason that there ain't Galax cards on Europe(There were Galaxy cards in the past).
 
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I just thought I'd bring this up here, resurrect this thread as I have no better place to interject this. While I know Polaris is not a place AMD would think of spending cash, knowing that we see no replacement on the horizon, and that Nvidia is all but surely waiting in the wings till there's a sign of movement of competition there's no use in offering anything truly revolutionary from the green team at the mid-range.

All that said, I was thinking at COMPUTEX AMD might least "drop" we are doing a Ryzen+ to Polaris. Nothing more than a few tweaks to perhaps the memory controller or whatever cheap and quick "corrections" and just say it's going to the 12nm process. I'd consider their inventory GPU's is not in any much of back-log, indicating they could make the change on-the-fly without discounting existing inventories. Now sure I don't know how asking GloFo to move-off the 14nm process, and boost 12nm wafer production would affect output, that could have a lot to do with it. Although, the understanding is 12nm nothing more than iterative improvement (half-node) of 14nm, so most production machines and tools aren't necessarily effected. Given what I'd think it's now almost a year since GloFo started 12nm for Ryzen+ they'd consider ceasing 14nm a good consolidation move.

Now sure such a "re-spin" is not going to make any huge deal on performance or where it sit's in the stack of competition, but given the almost lack of any real news for "Gamer's" this would've been at least a small "nod" they could do and not set-off any real alarm to Nvidia - they can stay their course. A little bit more performance (at least in boost), hold the power envelope, perhaps a slight bump in memory utilization, and put a "bow" on top with a new Driver bump like Adrenalin and Crimson.

I know a "rebrand" and driver hype... but honestly what "Gamers" are hearing now is "crickets" and what seems like for another year, and with more than a year+ of crypto mining and GDDR shortages and the pricing we endured (and they all made decent bank) they need to say/do something however trifling.
 

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I expect them to get better with refreshes and newer cards.

Not bad for a first off but some questionable decisions...
 
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