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ASRock X670E Taichi Carrara

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Only other option is ditching the GPU and buying an x16 mini SAS HD HBA card
I have seen those with up to 16 ports and with 16000 MB/s you dont have a bottleneck even with all 16 ports in use
With Highend boards than can split into Gen5 x8/x8 xou wouldn't even have to ditch the GPU. But it would be better to use an Gen3x8 SATA/SAS-Controller in a physical x16-Slot that is atleast x4 electrical so you have ~3.5GB/s of bandwith, which is theoretically enough for 6xSATA-SSD and will be plenty for double that number in HDD. There even are Gen4x8-Controller but they cost a lot of money.

There doesn't seem to be any demand for high-bandwith SATA-Controller outside of very potent SAS-Controller. Marvell stopped developing their SATA-Controller around 2013, so they are still stuck on Gen2, while Gen3x2 is enough for 3 SATA-SSD or 6 HDD (even the most advanced HDD don't reach 300MB/s sustained).
 
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With Highend boards than can split into Gen5 x8/x8 xou wouldn't even have to ditch the GPU. But it would be better to use an Gen3x8 SATA/SAS-Controller in a physical x16-Slot that is atleast x4 electrical so you have ~3.5GB/s of bandwith, which is theoretically enough for 6xSATA-SSD and will be plenty for double that number in HDD. There even are Gen4x8-Controller but they cost a lot of money.

There doesn't seem to be any demand for high-bandwith SATA-Controller outside of very potent SAS-Controller. Marvell stopped developing their SATA-Controller around 2013, so they are still stuck on Gen2, while Gen3x2 is enough for 3 SATA-SSD or 6 HDD (even the most advanced HDD don't reach 300MB/s sustained).
I have 6 HDD´s right now and giving the way SATA is going and that i am somewhat limited by my PSU and its 5v rail i dont think i am going to add more
As long as there is motherboard out there with 6 SATA ports and a free slot away from the GPU to add my x1 card when i need to replace a drive its good enough

When they remove SATA altogether i am going to have a massive problem but i dont think they are going to kill off SATA for good soon
Even if boards only have 4 SATA ports if i can add two x1 cards or that x4 card that is only x2 its good enough

Those Nimbus Exadrive 50 and 100 TB SSD´s would be awesome to have 2-4 of those would be enough but they cost $10.000 for the 50 and $40.000 for the 100 TB and thats way out of my price range
Anyway enough of that

Edit: i will be dammed turns out there do exist PCI-E gen 4 HBA cards it just cost and arm and a leg
No idea how those work
 
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VRM Temperatures & Power Consumption.
There is no power consumption data there?
One review listed idle system power use almost double 5950 & X570 from the wall so it would be good to have more info on this.

Under fan control you show being able to chose a temperature source other than CPU, what are the options? and is there something that could stop fans running loud every time the CPU core spikes to 95c like the option for a external sensor to control fan speeds or is there a temperature sensor for the IHS with these CPU?
 
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I find fake marble design tacky AF in interior design, let alone in a motherboard. What's next? tiger skin?

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Review updated again: MDDIO_MEM_S3 and VDD_MISC power stages were mixed up. Text is now fixed. Image added for VDD_MIC as well in the VRM breakdown section.

VRM Temperatures & Power Consumption.
There is no power consumption data there?
One review listed idle system power use almost double 5950 & X570 from the wall so it would be good to have more info on this.

Under fan control you show being able to chose a temperature source other than CPU, what are the options? and is there something that could stop fans running loud every time the CPU core spikes to 95c like the option for a external sensor to control fan speeds or is there a temperature sensor for the IHS with these CPU?
Good questions. By default CPU_Fan is set to Silent mode. CPU_Fan2 is set to standard and monitors the CPU temps. Looking at the Fan Tuning in the BIOS, this is set to ramp up to 70% at 80c. So if you have quick burst of 95c, I don't think it will jump to 100% and back down to say 50% every few seconds. Since I am using a Custom Loop for my test setup, I do not know the fan ramp-up / ramp-down cycle well. I will look into this more and see what I find.

As for why is there no power consumption data, that is because AMD Ryzen 7000 series is still new. I don't know what's normal yet. You can check out TPU CPU reviews for more information on power draw and amperage. This CPU data will be added at a later date. Maybe in a week or so.
 
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All I want is a new AMD or Intel motherboard that will do PCIe 5.0 for vid card at x16 and also for NVMe M.2 drive without having to use half the graphics slot . And it must NOT cost me a kidney to do it,! Seriously insane prices for all and unfortunately RPL is looking even worse!
 
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All I want is a new AMD or Intel motherboard that will do PCIe 5.0 for vid card at x16 and also for NVMe M.2 drive without having to use half the graphics slot . And it must NOT cost me a kidney to do it,! Seriously insane prices for all and unfortunately RPL is looking even worse!
Let's wait for B650E boards, they should be presented on 4-th Oct.
 
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Review has been updated to reflect some clarification.

1: Weak memory support is likely to be a AMD AGEAS issue. (no surprise here)
2: USB4 is using a TB4 controller. This is linked through Gen3 x4 (1 GB/s)
3: Blazing OC Tuner software tested
4: Blazing M.2 heatsink thermals tested with Gen4 x4 NVMe drive
5: Realtek ALC4080 Codec /ESS SANRE0219 DAC is wrong. Updated to ALC4082+ESS9218
6: BIOS is now 256MB as listed on the website specification page.
7: Clarify that the Kingston DDR5-6000 FURY RGB was used for this review and with EXPO enabled.
8: Price updated to $529 US
9: Charts and text updated to say Taichi Carrara (ASRock really wanted this even though its the same MB)

256Mbit, not 256MB. ;)

Also, I seriously do not understand the audio situation on this otherwise fairly high end motherboard. Stereo output only, and no line in? No 7.1, no 5.1. Am I missing something?
 
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Also, I seriously do not understand the audio situation on this otherwise fairly high end motherboard. Stereo output only, and no line in? No 7.1, no 5.1. Am I missing something?

That's indeed weird but I feel like the 5.1 ports boards use to come with are kind of a meme anyway, more interesting to know if the dac they use is any good.

The board still has spdif and hdmi so anyone looking for surround options could use those
 
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For sure it seems only Asrock and Gigabyte boards are ok ish price wise. MSI and Asus boards are pretty ridiculous.

Never thought I'd see the day where a Taichi board was more appealing to me than an Ace or Hero one.
I've always found the Taichi to be one of the best premium priced models in the market.
They are also one of the best, can't really go wrong with them.
 

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256Mbit, not 256MB. ;)
Copied and pasted from ASRock website. Take it up with them if 256Mb is wrong :)

I've always found the Taichi to be one of the best premium priced models in the market.
They are also one of the best, can't really go wrong with them.
Looking at the $500 price range for X670E, this one is a pretty good choice. They all have strengths and weaknesses. So it comes down to personal preferences.
 
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the board looks more like a part of a marble wall/ceiling than an actual board IMO. XD
 
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Copied and pasted from ASRock website. Take it up with them if 256Mb is wrong :)

I checked before I replied. :D

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Review update:
  1. VRM test section now lists stock Current and Power draw.
  2. Clarification text for reddit complaintive about the VRM test. A fan is placed on the VRM heatsink(s) for 5-8 minutes to simulate case airflow. If a VRM heatstink has a internal fan, it is not disabled for these tests.
  3. Beta BIOS 1.08A does not change the scores, temperatures or memory support.
 
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For people worried about bottlenecks on chipset buses, it might be useful if the "Storage Interfaces" table on page 9 was extended to show which ports are connected to which PROM21.
 
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All I want is a new AMD or Intel motherboard that will do PCIe 5.0 for vid card at x16 and also for NVMe M.2 drive without having to use half the graphics slot . And it must NOT cost me a kidney to do it,! Seriously insane prices for all and unfortunately RPL is looking even worse!
I have a 6800XT and I have all of my expansion slots used up. There is literally a 2% difference in speed vs running at x16. PCie 4.0 x8 is fine for current GPUs. I expect that to hold even more true for AM5 as 5.0x8 is the same bandwidth as 4.0 x 16. They really need to give us a decent HEDT chip as some of us have been taking advantage of PCie storage since the OCZ Revodrive. I just hope that RDNA3 cards are not super large either.
 
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All I want is a new AMD or Intel motherboard that will do PCIe 5.0 for vid card at x16 and also for NVMe M.2 drive without having to use half the graphics slot . And it must NOT cost me a kidney to do it,! Seriously insane prices for all and unfortunately RPL is looking even worse!
Well you won't get that on 1700 since there are only 16 Lanes Gen5 in Alder Lake and Raptor Lake.
 
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All I want is a new AMD or Intel motherboard that will do PCIe 5.0 for vid card at x16 and also for NVMe M.2 drive without having to use half the graphics slot . And it must NOT cost me a kidney to do it,! Seriously insane prices for all and unfortunately RPL is looking even worse!
The board I have found that could satisfy your requirement could be the Asus X670E Pro Art. There is no post code though and that is a risk with a brand new platform
 

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How is it possible to use the EKWB Quantum Velocity Water Block on the Taichi Carrara without changing the backplate ? Is there an upgrade Kit or is it compatible with the original backplate ?.
 

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How is it possible to use the EKWB Quantum Velocity Water Block on the Taichi Carrara without changing the backplate ? Is there an upgrade Kit or is it compatible with the original backplate ?.
EKWB did announce that they would have some compatibility kits coming. I couldn't wait so I devised my own adapter :). I used the mounting posts from a Bitspower CPU Block Summit MS (AMD/AM4) waterblock. Works well in a pinch, but not recommended because you have to even the block out while your mounting, otherwise one side will not make contact.
 

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EKWB did announce that they would have some compatibility kits coming. I couldn't wait so I devised my own adapter :). I used the mounting posts from a Bitspower CPU Block Summit MS (AMD/AM4) waterblock. Works well in a pinch, but not recommended because you have to even the block out while your mounting, otherwise one side will not make contact.
A nice workaround ;) , thanks for responding, but i think i will wait until the upgrade kits are available. :)
 
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@AKBrian I blame the proofreader for not catching the 10GB lol. Thanks for the catch. Will fix now.
 
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