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ASUS Announces the ROG MARS 760 Dual-GPU Graphics Card

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ASUS Republic of Gamers (ROG) today announced Mars 760, a graphics card that features two GeForce GTX 760 graphics-processing units (GPUs) for the ultimate gaming performance. Mars 760 outpaces even GeForce GTX Titan - with game performance that's up to 39% faster overall. Compared with GeForce GTX Titan, Mars 760 runs Bioshock Infinite 6% faster, Crysis 3 an impressive 14% quicker and increases Tomb Raider's performance by a remarkable 39%.

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why the 760 gpus? and not higher?
Heat probably. I am interested in 270x MARS, it seems that AMD scales better than Nvidia this time round.
 
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Damn this 7xx gen!!!

4gb 670s would have been waaaaaaaaay better...Considering the ever lurking 4k
 
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I like the idea of dual 7** gpu's but feel like this could of been absolute flagship with an 'ARES' type cooler and dual 780s if heat allowed.

and not forgetting more vram

this seems too mediocre to me.
 
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I'm sorry but you DONT hook up this much graphics horse-power to 2GB of VRAM only. 1440P gaming will suffer insufficient memory sometimes.
 
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I'm sorry but you DONT hook up this much graphics horse-power to 2GB of VRAM only. 1440P gaming will suffer insufficient memory sometimes.
Good for Mini PC making ! and if it is chiper , cooler low energy drow ,fast inaf ..
 
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Yea, I always thought Nvidia would use the GTX 670 chip and build somthing on the cheap as a $500. The problem is if this isn't like $400 I can't see investing anymore for a middle-ground, one-off, already SLI card that might very well be surpassed by a 20Nm single chip in 6 months. IDK
 
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Good for Mini PC making ! and if it is chiper , cooler low energy drow ,fast inaf ..
That doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.

I'll use the GTX 780 Ti Winfroce as an example. Let's see.
Its faster, cost about the same, has 3GB of VRAM, shorter, takes less power, has no SLI issue potential.
Point dis-proven.

They compere it to the Titan like the Titan is relevant. It isn't, it died the day GTX 780 Ti came out. Hell, some say it died the day GTX 780 came out.
 
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why the 760 gpus? and not higher?
I was thinking why not make them with a more efficient GPU say Pitcairn/Curacao. The GK104 core in the 760 is within the power consumption of a 680 (Around 150-180watts) double that up, and you got a 300 watt card. I know that 2 GTX 680's are better then 2 GTX 760, and 2 GTX 680's is what you get with the GTX 690, and that card is a year old 300 watt card. So why did they go with some cut down GK 104 cores?

My suspicion is that a duel GPU card is a Premium Product, and justifying the cost mus-ta been the decision maker, and duel Pitcairn/Curacao card couldn't do better then $450 without some eyebrows being raised, and noses pointed away. Wanna make some money make a duel 760 VGA, and charge $600! Speculation, and poor insight :p.
 
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doesn't make sense to me at all tbh, but that's what they do...

and another thing is that for £$xxx (500quid) you get a card that beats a titan priced at 1k. (what about vs 780ti?)

if I were buying a card right now, id be a bit confused....

(or theyre testing the dual-gpu idea before going all out on 'zeus' (dual 780s) haha
 

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So I seen an SLI finger, can you SLI two of these, or is that just there for show?
 
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What a complete waste of time. I R confused.

Okay, it beats a Titan. Big Deal. So can all these cards (review dependent): 290x, 290, 780, 780Ti.

This would need to be really quite cheap to make it worthwhile. The memory is awful for the power. Good luck driving BF4 on a 1440p screen. Asus, wtf are you thinking?

Anybody would be far better served with any of 4 other single gpu cards all with 3-4Gb Vram.
 
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This is good for a mini itx build playing at 1080p.
 
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This is good for a mini itx build playing at 1080p.
See Dj electric's comment

Right now there are better options even for mini ITX - and probably cheaper too.

About a year ago they were going to come out with an HD 7870x2. Now that would of been killer as nothing except the GTX 690 would of been able to touch it. It's a shame they didn't release that card. This one is too little too late.
 
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why the 760 gpus? and not higher?
There's no reference model GTX 790 (dual 780 or 780 ti), but there is probably a proto-type being worked on as we speak. This is just a GTX 690 version 2.0 remake done by Asus's ROG. They've already got the Asus ROG ARES II which is equivalent to your reference 7990s or better. I think this is ASUS's attempts to make an additional profit without being in direct competition with everything else. The GTX 690 is still a really good graphic cards. Mars II is just in competition with the AMD 7990 series.

They compere it to the Titan like the Titan is relevant. It isn't, it died the day GTX 780 Ti came out. Hell, some say it died the day GTX 780 came out.
GTX Titan is the trend-setter of 2013 to 2014. A lot of benchmarks were made in comparison to it. AMD 7990 or Malta was AMD's way of being in competition with GTX Titan. R9-290x diminished the GTX Titan's popularity and trend-setting abilities. R9-290x performed better, it was cheaper, and CrossfireX was fixed. NVidia later released 780 Ti to be in competition with R9-290x. That's why, in a sense, your point is valid. The GTX Titan is becoming less valid as the standard-setter. At the moment, it's more or less a premium, once in a blue moon occurring graphic card with 64bit floating point precision...

So I seen an SLI finger, can you SLI two of these, or is that just there for show?
It's the typical, single SLI finger for a Dual GPU, Graphic Card. Basically, you can 2-way SLI the Mars II with a 2nd Mars II, and that's the only thing you can SLI it with.
 
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It's the typical, single SLI finger for a Dual GPU, Graphic Card. Basically, you can 2-way SLI the Mars II with a 2nd Mars II, and that's the only thing you can SLI it with.
So 4 760s in two slots then? I would like to see some benchmarks on that however I'm sure it's going to offer some diminishing returns as it usually does, but I wonder if only two slots with 4 GPUs would help with that?

They compere it to the Titan like the Titan is relevant. It isn't, it died the day GTX 780 Ti came out. Hell, some say it died the day GTX 780 came out.
The Titan was never really meant to be a gaming GPU so really no sense comparing it to begin with haha
 
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Well, at least they made the most useless graphics card for this year.
 
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On their website they say "100% Custom Designed PCB" but it's more like GTX 690 board to me
 
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They always do this stuff wrong. People will be leery of spending big bucks on a card with the middle of the road VRAM size. People will be hesitant to buy it. Overall though I wish this was a more common thing; custom dual gpu cards using mid range chips. Brings big performance numbers for less money.
 
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On their website they say "100% Custom Designed PCB" but it's more like GTX 690 board to me
The GTX 690 uses flat (surface mount) capacitors from memory- and fewer in number than the tall caps used on this card. Asus may well have used the GTX 690 PCB as a base to work from, but it isn't identical.
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Asustek launches another overpriced proprietary board of dubious merit. The only thing less shocking is the predictable deluge of forum responses.
"Premium Product" that's also very (would be) limited. It's just a product for a collection, and in that collection it's a oddball.

So I seen an SLI finger, can you SLI two of these, or is that just there for show?
Yes.....
Well my suspicion is that the drivers for the 760 will not allow it. If they do great, otherwise the answer is no, or maybe. The maybe being Asus finding a clever way around it. Which they might have done since they included the SLI finger. Good question, no clear answer :p
 
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So 4 760s in two slots then? I would like to see some benchmarks on that however I'm sure it's going to offer some diminishing returns as it usually does, but I wonder if only two slots with 4 GPUs would help with that?
Looking at GTX 780 Ti in SLI, most likely, it wouldn't be worth 2 MARS II in SLI. 1, SLI has a tendency to Drop Frames in certain games in exchange for higher FPS. Frame Time Latency graphs will prove this in most benchmarks. Looking at GTX 780 Ti SLI benchmarks will support this--looks like it's NVidia's turn to have SLI issues. 2nd thing is diminishing returns. Ideally, if 1 GPU does 60 FPS, 4 would give you 240 FPS. Since this isn't a perfect-world situation, the average scaling for SLI is somewhere between 1.1 and 1.5 at 2 NVidia Cards, assuming they are both the same, 3 cards would push that scaling even further down. The 4th GPU would probably be a waste, and this is why it's recommended having 4-Way SLI more for benching than actual game-play. Folding with 4-way would be ideal also.

Lets say in theory, MARS II does push 39% more performance than GTX Titan. You're looking at 1344 CC x2 for a total of 2688 Cuda Cores, per 1 MARS II. Since this is ASUS ROG Premium, Boost Frequency will probably be anywhere from 1079Mhz to 1200 Mhz. ARES II, Stock Boost Frequency was at 1100Mhz. A majority of 7970s were under that, GHZ Edition was at 1100Mhz, and 7990s were under that Stock Core Frequency.

If GTX Titan Reference is 2688 CC x 928 Mhz = 2,494,464.0
2,494,464.0 x 1.39 = 3,467,304.96; MARSII is up to 39% faster, overall, to GTX Titan.
3,467,304.96 (2688 cc)^-1 = 1289.92 Mhz at most.

Plausible? Who knows. Two things can be learned from this. An ASUS ROG MARS II could be looked at as a dual-GPU, GTX Titan-equivalent with better cooling, better binned GPUs, and higher Clock Frequencies. DirectCU II or Direct Cooling Unit v2.0 + 12 Power Phases would equate to better cooling even at OC Frequencies.

If GTX 780 Ti is 13.5% more performance, in theory, to GTX Titan, this would also mean that MARSII will be roughly 20 to 25% more than GTX 780 Ti. Looking at a possible performance gain of 8% more, realistically speaking, GTX 780 Ti versus MARS II.

(2688 cc)(1079 Mhz) / ((2880 cc)(928 Mhz)) = 1.0852, or 8.52%... Hard to tell without actual 3rd Party Benches...

The Titan was never really meant to be a gaming GPU so really no sense comparing it to begin with haha
GTX Titans are basically the leftovers for K20 Tesla and K6000. They were apart of the yield that failed during production. Yes, you're right in a sense that they weren't made for Gaming in mind. They had 64bit double floating precision. More ideal for Workstation Graphic Cards, and that offered no performance gains towards PC Gaming. I believe NVidia's train of thought was to liquidate or make a profit off the left overs. Maximize revenue returns. The same thing is being done for G-Sync with the leftover inventory of Tegra4 Chips. Put them on PCBs, call it G-Sync, sell it to the NVidia consumers, bank more revenue returns, secretly push GTX 790 and Maxwell in between Q4 2013 to Q3 2014.

The main motivation-driver of the GTX Titan, by consumers, was the fact that it had 1.8 times the Cuda Cores of a GTX 680. GTX 690 would have 2.0 times the Cuda Cores of GTX 680, but the GTX Titan's main appeal was the amount of Cudas it has on a single 28nm die. That equates to less latency between GPU 1 and 2 on the GTX 690, and higher OC room. Again, those samples that failed short of the 2880 Cuda Core mark. More Cuda Cores equates to less time spent doing the same loads in Parallel Processing. Less time spent doing loads equates to higher FPS performance at some core frequency above 800 Mhz. Higher FPS equated to bragging rights, higher performance, Single-GPU domination, better game-play...

Maxwell is suppose to have over 3000 Cuda Cores on a 22nm die. Tenerifle 2.0 for AMD will possibly have a GPU with 2.0 times a Tahiti XL on a single die... Best case scenario, it will have 2.0 times a Hawaii XL on a single 22nm die.