ASUS Radeon RX 6800 XT STRIX OC Liquid Cooled

[Mysteoa]

Sure ASUS are taking their cut BUT the reason most 6800XTs are overpriced is beacause AMD just lied about MSRP ....... so if you wan't to blame someone at least blame the right person .

At this point you don't know who to trust. Of course AIB don't want to look bad and will blame it on AMD, but they just know that in the current market people will buy it no matter the price, so why not charge more. Also, AMD can't force AIB as much as Nvidia can.

i wish to see AMD GPU RDNA 3 use more than 256 bit bus width..

And why would they make the card pricer when it is doing fine on 256bit?

 

[bubbleawsome]

And why would they make the card pricer when it is doing fine on 256bit?

While it's doing ok it's also clear that something is holding it back at 4k, and I'd be willing to bet memory bandwidth would help there. For a high end part aimed at 4k gaming it's a little shy.

 

[Mussels]

Looks like a kickass card for 1440p tho... and all these 4K reviews are at ultra, simply turning a single setting down or off could suddenly kick those numbers up

 

[btk2k2]

While it's doing ok it's also clear that something is holding it back at 4k, and I'd be willing to bet memory bandwidth would help there. For a high end part aimed at 4k gaming it's a little shy.

ComputerBase Memory OC testing says otherwise. They saw a 1% performance gain from a 7.5% memory OC @ 4k.

The 6800XT pulls further away from the 2080Ti as resolution increases. The difference is that Ampere does so at a faster rate (lower performance loss for a resolution bump). This is similar to the Radeon 7 vs the 5700XT where the 5700XT is ahead at 1080p, they match at 1440p and the Radeon 7 is ahead at 4K.

The most likely explanation is that the extra shader performance starts to make a difference at 4k.

 

[Colddecked]

For a 250 dollar markup you think they'd clean up that wiring...

At this point you don't know who to trust. Of course AIB don't want to look bad and will blame it on AMD, but they just know that in the current market people will buy it no matter the price, so why not charge more. Also, AMD can't force AIB as much as Nvidia can.


And why would they make the card pricer when it is doing fine on 256bit?

AIBs are full of crap. They're the ones marking it up and laughing all the way to the bank when the resellers buy the stock now anyways.

 

[Jism]

While it's doing ok it's also clear that something is holding it back at 4k, and I'd be willing to bet memory bandwidth would help there. For a high end part aimed at 4k gaming it's a little shy.

In every review and / or OC, memory bandwidth is just a little portion in comparison to the core OC alone. So it's not really bandwidth limited here. This is no polaris or so.

If the 6900XT would be released with a 384 bits memory bus shit will be amazing if there's extra CU's available. Other then that the 128MB ondie cache pretty much offers lots of benefit already. If you go wider with bus and more chips your raising the costs in chips, pcb, tdp and cooling sort of say.

It's simply more efficient then Nvidia at this moment. Lets keep it that way.

 

[FinneousPJ]

The gains in RTRT are mad!

 

[lexluthermiester]

@W1zzard has already answered this but another valuable point is because then the results are comparable to all the other GPUs in the charts. Any reviewer worth their salt will keep the base platform the same to provide us readers with (much appreciated) context data for as long as possible, and they generally only update their platform when the new platform is found to be holding back the review product by any significant margin.

This! Being able to offer consistently reliable information is far more important than keeping the base platform up to date, especially considering that an OC'd 9900k is still considered a top-tier testing platform.

What I like about these reviews W1zard does is the fact that not only do they show an expansive level of testing for users to make very informed decisions, but it also shows the consistency of the performance on offer. I am still completely taken a-back by how well they kicked it into high gear but also by how well they do on AMD's first RTRT go. This new generation GPU's from both camps have been exceptional!

 

[cueman]

hmm,well looks and its true, even rx 6800 xt with water cooled oc'd 6800 xt cant beat rtx 3080 FE gpu, i repeat FE gpu,i mean compare is FE rtx 3080.
yes, rtx 3080/90 AIB versions not have much more performance more but something anyway, 2-5%,example evga model.

 

[sweet]

hmm,well looks and its true, even rx 6800 xt with water cooled oc'd 6800 xt cant beat rtx 3080 FE gpu, i repeat FE gpu,i mean compare is FE rtx 3080.
yes, rtx 3080/90 AIB versions not have much more performance more but something anyway, 2-5%,example evga model.

They can even beat 3090 in games optimized for AMD, such as Strange Brigade or Hitman 2. Given AMD history with drivers, this card can comfortable compete with 3080 and eventually pull ahead in the near future.

The main grudge with Nvidia is that those cards are at the edge of the silicon node. There is still doubt that this would be Fermi all over again. In long run AMD seems to be better for this generation.

 

[purecain]

If we can actually see some stock in the shops that would be something. Lets hope we can all access the silicon we want by April next yr.
Ive got a funny feeling most of us will be waiting that long the way things are going.
I'll be looking for a 6900xt @ launch. Great review of the 6800xt!

 

[Shatun_Bear]

Wow, 2.7Ghz. If we get a reasonably priced LC'd card it might really be the go-to raster card. Kinda wish we could see more real-world performance increases of that OC instead of just Haven.

6900XT has a clock limit of 3Ghz.

That one, liquid cooled, is going to break all records and still probably draw less power than a 3090

 

[medi01]

What's the point in reviewing these GPUs if you can't buy them? Whole Europe is 'out of stock'. Just a free marketing I suppose.

We have never had an exciting GPU launch when cards were not in acute shortage for the first couple of months.

 

[Colddecked]

6900XT has a clock limit of 3Ghz.

That one, liquid cooled, is going to break all records and still probably draw less power than a 3090

Hopefully my future 6800xt will have the same clock limit once I flash the 6900xt bios on it

 

[medi01]

i wish to see AMD GPU RDNA 3 use more than 256 bit bus width..

So insightful, was worth registering just to post that.
Thank you, stranger!

This! Being able to offer consistently reliable information is far more important than keeping the base platform up to date, especially considering that an OC'd 9900k is still considered a top-tier testing platform.

SAM alone can boost framerates to up to 13% and it is very relevant to the readers (most I know are going to buy Zen3).
9900k makes it impossible.

Situation isn't really different from the times when 9900k was introduced (which is what, 2 years ago?), it's not like there was no other CPU before it or that one didn't have to re-test stuff with new CPU.

 

[jesdals]

I had hope for building with this card but I fear, that Its going to be to thight a fit compared with my r7 card and the aio

 

[FinneousPJ]

Those tiny fans look cute

 

[Makaveli]

I had hope for building with this card but I fear, that Its going to be to thight a fit compared with my r7 card and the aio
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That looks like a Fractal Design Meshify C case.

If it is you will probably have issues fitting the newer cards and why are those fans mounted behind the Rad instead of in front of the rad?

 

[Caring1]

So insightful, was worth registering just to post that.
Thank you, stranger!

Were you born an asshole, or did you learn that from your parents?

 

[jesdals]

That looks like a Fractal Design Meshify C case.

If it is you will probably have issues fitting the newer cards and why are those fans mounted behind the Rad instead of in front of the rad?

I decided to try push and negative pressure, but it does not seems to do any good. I have modifyed the sides with intakes behind motherboard tray with opening behind cpu and on the side of my very hot R7 and a fan blowing in at side at the cpu. I have som spare vacation time from tomorrow and decided to test the difference plus the effect of new Noctua paste the NT-NH2.

Those tiny fans look cute

Believe me you could fry and egg on that backplate of the R7

 

[Mussels]

I had hope for building with this card but I fear, that Its going to be to thight a fit compared with my r7 card and the aio
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Whats going on here? Every fan is exhausting (terrible idea) the GPU is in an 8x slot, and you've wedged in MORE exhaust fans making it even worse?

 

[Fluffmeister]

I just miss the days when HBM was apparently required.

Suckers.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Whats going on here? Every fan is exhausting (terrible idea) the GPU is in an 8x slot, and you've wedged in MORE exhaust fans making it even worse?

That's what I was thinking. That Radeon is in the wrong slot!

 

[Taraquin]

It seems like almost every other major reviewer crowns the 3080 at 4k, about ties the 3080 and 6800XT at 1440p and crowns the 6800XT at 1080p. I wonder why TPU get better results at lower res than viritually every other site. Game selection? Something with the setup that either improves Ampere performance at low res or lowers Big Navi perf at low res?

 

[jesdals]

Whats going on here? Every fan is exhausting (terrible idea) the GPU is in an 8x slot, and you've wedged in MORE exhaust fans making it even worse?

That's what I was thinking. That Radeon is in the wrong slot!

The R7 is sending som much hot air into the chipset cooler that I moved it down, performance loss is not noticble. I have intake fans in the sides 2 80mm on pair with gpu and one 120mm in position over/ in line with the cpu slot

But I am going to change the radiator mount to an intake, the GPU is heating it to much this way